NCAA Tournament Friday Game Thread

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Deathofthebambino said:
There is a goddamn lid on the hoop.  PC has 10 offensive rebounds to Dayton's 2, and I don't think they've turned a single one of them into points.
lid doesn't matter if you can't even hit the rim on a wide open 3
 

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I can't wait for the team that beats Dayton by 30.  This has been the least enjoyable NCAA Tournament game I've ever seen.
 

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Remind me why an 11 seed gets three home games to start the tournament?
 

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Stick a fork in it. Even if Dayton doesn't score again, I think they have more points already than PC will finish with.
 

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NickEsasky said:
Henton is killing this team.
One more swing to a wide open Lindsey was the play there. This is such a painful night. Dayton's defense has been fantastic this half.....the whole game really. Our defensive approach was that of a December game against Maine.
 

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Henton has come up small in a lot of big games this year.  And when he comes up small, he REALLY comes up small.  5/20 from the field, 2/10 from three.  He's almost hurting them more than he's helping.
 

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after the game is the ref going to rip his shirt off and reveal a dayton jersey like pro wrestling?
 

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I'm never this guy, but I think this one is over boys.  Henton should just stop shooting.  I'm not sure what he should do, but he really shouldn't take another shot tonight.
 

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Providence didn't show up tonight. I'm discouraged. Their best players let them down tonight.
 

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Dayton deserves a shit ton of credit. They defended their asses off and knocked down threes whenever we made runs to tie it up. Archie Miller has done an amazing job with this shorthanded team. They play like he did at NC State....scrappy as hell and fight for 40 minutes.
 

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16-53 shooting. What can you say? Teams have nights like that sometimes. You hope it's in December instead of March, but sometimes it happens.
 

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moondog80 said:
Remind me why an 11 seed gets three home games to start the tournament?
Dumb luck?
Play-in is always in Dayton and for travel reasons that means they advance into the Columbus 2nd round. Dayton just snuck in.
Honestly being close to home probably isn't as big an advantage as having to play an extra game against  a pretty good Boise team is a disadvantage.
 

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Did the committee ever explain why they didn't put the Dayton play in somewhere where if they won they wouldn't be playing in Columbus? I mean, they had 3 other choices didn't they?
 

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Was there any doubt how this would turn out when the other 15 higher seeds won their games today?
 
This one was over 3 minutes in.  It turned the game into an ugly, sloppy mess with no rhythm, which is pretty much Dayton's game plan for every game.  Keep it close, bury some threes and pull out the win.  PC certainly didn't do themselves any favors, but this one is on Henton.  You can't just disappear when you are the top scorer in your conference and expect your team to win.
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
16-53 shooting. What can you say? Teams have nights like that sometimes. You hope it's in December instead of March, but sometimes it happens.
Nope this is PC in just about every big game since 1997. Can't handle the spotlight.
 

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Cellar-Door said:
Dumb luck?
Play-in is always in Dayton and for travel reasons that means they advance into the Columbus 2nd round. Dayton just snuck in.
Honestly being close to home probably isn't as big an advantage as having to play an extra game against  a pretty good Boise team is a disadvantage.
either ole miss or byu had to go from dayton to jacksonville, why wasn't dayton in that game instead of the one where if they won they'd get up to 2 more home games in a row
 

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scottyno said:
Did the committee ever explain why they didn't put the Dayton play in somewhere where if they won they wouldn't be playing in Columbus? I mean, they had 3 other choices didn't they?
They had 7 choices. They can put the pod anywhere. Oklahoma, Providence and Albany are the other teams. None was entitled to or received regional preference, so they could have put this pod elsewhere (though that might displace another pod).
 

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Cellar-Door said:
Dumb luck?
Play-in is always in Dayton and for travel reasons that means they advance into the Columbus 2nd round. Dayton just snuck in.
Honestly being close to home probably isn't as big an advantage as having to play an extra game against  a pretty good Boise team is a disadvantage.
But they "earned" the extra game disadvantage, in the eyes of the NCAA anyway. They couldn't have moved the play in game to one of the other regions?
 

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scottyno said:
either ole miss or byu had to go from dayton to jacksonville, why wasn't dayton in that game instead of the one where if they won they'd get up to 2 more home games in a row
 
Dayton did have to play in the A-10 finals on Sunday.  I think the Committee wanted them in the Wednesday game for fairness. 
 

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I don't think the home crowd had any affect on this game, but it most certainly did against Boise.  There is no way Dayton comes back in that game on the road.  The other big advantage isn't just the crowd during the game, it's the fact that they don't have to travel.  They are a very shallow team, with only 6-7 guys, playing 5 games in a week.  Sleeping at home in your own bed, not having to get on a plane, go to the airport, etc. is an advantage for them.  There is no way around it.
 
Wouldn't have changed anything tonight, but if I'm Boise, I'm pretty pissed about it.
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
16-53 shooting. What can you say? Teams have nights like that sometimes. You hope it's in December instead of March, but sometimes it happens.
I don't know how anyone can say it just happened though. Dayton's defense was suffocating and contesting everything. They out-toughed us in the paint all night. That didn't just happen.
 

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moondog80 said:
But they "earned" the extra game disadvantage, in the eyes of the NCAA anyway. They couldn't have moved the play in game to one of the other regions?
No, it's contracted there.
Dayton has a contract with the NCAA to host the First Four and before that the single Play-in game. They've had it since 2001.
 
Edit- amusingly this is the last year on the deal because the NCAA wants to cycle it. (ie they want more $$$ by having it bid for year by year)
 

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People will look at the scorer's sheet and see Henton finished with 18 points and 11 rebounds, and miss the fact he went 7/26 from the field, 4/14 from three point line.  Uggh, this one was depressing from start to finish. 
 

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Where the hell was Desrosiers all night? Dude has half a foot in everyone and he was non existent. I know he got doubled a lot in the post but the dude was a ghost out there.
 

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HomeRunBaker said:
I don't know how anyone can say it just happened though. Dayton's defense was suffocating and contesting everything. They out-toughed us in the paint all night. That didn't just happen.
Dayton's defense was really good and denied entry all night forcing tough shots, no doubt. But until the end PC was defending too. Dayton was still in the 40s very deep into the game. They just needed to make a couple more shots to make it close and keep it in hand, but they just couldn't knock down shots even on good looks. Dayton deserved to win, but Providence made it easier with their shooting.
 

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No, it's contracted there.
Dayton has a contract with the NCAA to host the First Four and before that the single Play-in game. They've had it since 2001.
 
Edit- amusingly this is the last year on the deal because the NCAA wants to cycle it. (ie they want more $$$ by having it bid for year by year)
What I mean is, once Dayton is in the play in game, take that out of the Coulmbus bracket.
 

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Desrosiers finished with ZERO shots from the floor, or the free throw line.  None.  Not one.  He's obviously not a scoring threat, but that's just abysmal.  They couldn't get him one look all night?  It's hard to score when you have basically 2 guys that the defense doesn't even need to look at.
 

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moondog80 said:
What I mean is, once Dayton is in the play in game, take that out of the Coulmbus bracket.
There was no Columbus bracket before selection Sunday. Any of the 16 pods can be put anywhere. They were free to put the play in winner's pod anywhere.
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
There was no Columbus bracket before selection Sunday. Any of the 16 pods can be put anywhere. They were free to put the play in winner's pod anywhere.
Right, that's what I'm trying to say. I saw this coming a mile away, the NCAA couldn't?
 

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They aren't going to make teams fly out on their one day between games just because there is a chance that an 11 seed will get a game 70 miles from home. It would be an enormous pain in the ass.
Dayton always gets paired with Columbus so that the 8 play-in teams and their fans can get one hotel room, one flight. Having those teams have to up and move in one day would be a logistical nightmare.
 
 
The NCAA didn't miss it, they just didn't think it was worth the problems it would cause to avoid it.
 
 
 
Edit- Actually looks like they did that to Ole Miss, flying them to JAX.
I guess they could have flipped it to make each team play farther away from home.
 

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moondog80 said:
Right, that's what I'm trying to say. I saw this coming a mile away, the NCAA couldn't?
Oh, gotcha. Committe doesn't care, I guess, because six seeds get no protection -- and to admit it's a problem causes people to start asking why Duke and North Carolina get to play in NC so often. They just won't intentionally protect a 6 seed.

It's most unfair to Oklahoma, which was entitled to regional protection, but the NCAA has the silly rule still, I think, that the first four seeds are only protected in the first round -- the committee will not speculate who will win in the opening round in order to protect a team in the round of 32.