Mr. Chemistry
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I’m looking for maximum hilarity, so I want to see him demand a trade to the Lakers for LeBron.
It’s nice to get $40 Milllion for rehabbing, but he’s got to be thinking what did I do.
Wow. Even in a league full of divas demanding the sun moon and stars, taking $40M from a team just to rehab in a cool city and then demanding they trade you before giving them even a dime of value back would set some new heights for sports cruelty.
there is a good chance Kyrie is unaware of the Celtics record this season
the guy lives in his own bubble
There is a line somewhere between: (a) taking accountability for the shortcomings of your team as a leader, and (b) humble-bragging about how much of an alpha you are. Kyrie is always on the wrong side of that line. Of course, if you haven't been exposed to a lot of him, he might come off as trying to say the right things at first. But his true self exposes itself through agonizing repetition.
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Eh, you never know where people are on their journey. I’m sure we’ve all acted rudely in minor interactions that nobody thinks about again because we’re not famous.
It’s kind of a weird thing to expect strangers to acknowledge everyone that yells at them.
Agree.
Fortunately, he gives tons of other reasons to suspect he's an asshole, so this inadmissible evidence is not needed!
Meh, if the team is a shit-show, and they get good value back for you in the trade, it's cool imo.
this nails it...after you see his schtick long enough, you can read between the BS.
I think I've said this before, but 7-year old me was pretty devastated after striking out with the bases loaded to end a close loss. In addition to the usual "we win as a team, we lose as a team," the coach said something along the lines of, "players in team sports who take all the blame for losses secretly want all the credit for wins."
The first major leaguer that rekindled that thought in me was Schilling. As much of an on-field hero that he was in 2004, his antics while Mitch Williams was coming apart in the WS always stayed with me. So when he appeared to take all the overwrought blame, all the time, for every loss he was involved in, it brought me back to Little League. I think Kyrie is the same deal.
Are you kidding? KI absolutely knows what the Cs record is.
And he is telling his circle how much JB and JT grew while playing with him.
They paid max knowing that (A) this season would be an entire wash, a sunk-cost; (B) even when he comes back he's not going to be 100% Durant-the-world-destroyer, and might not even get there in the duration of the contract / ever; (C) even so, his range of possible results includes a good portion where he's so good on the court that he's worth 4 years of max contract in 2.5 years of playing, and (D) anyway the marketing value is partly propping that up.
Depriving them of the possible upside of C, while any acquirer could devalue things due to B (and the ongoing uncertainty) while claiming that A is not their problem, would swing a bold, good-faith bet into an absolute disaster, all because Durant decided to be a dick.
We're talking theoretical here of course, but there's still no such thing as getting good value back on a top-10 player. Let's see where New Orleans and OKC are in 5 years, but that's about as good as you'll do - a bunch of decent-probability lottery tickets.
I *think* he was being self-deprecating and said "It was an exception" when Greenie said it was brilliant.
Inception. Or at least someone said that, I think it was him and not someone off camera.
great post DrewDawg
Last time we checked basketball is a team game
The narrative that "Kyrie is significantly better and more talented then Kemba" needs to end.
Yikes, Kyrie going 1 on 4 against the Bucks is player malpractice and glaring.
Court/teammate awareness is a skill Larry Bird and Magic Johnson excelled at, even though they were superstars.
Even leaving aside everything else, Kemba has shocked me with how good and intense a team defender he is. His stunts to the ball and recovery are really impressive. Not having to carry an entire franchise's offensive load has helped him a lot.
That's a great point Mr. C may be missing, when you focus 100% on offense its hard to focus 100% on defense, 80% and 80% is way more doable and Kemba seems to be doing that. Mr. C never really got that deferring would give him some juice for both ends and keep his teammates involved mentally and physically.
That was great other than having to watch the vastly overrated and overpaid Greenie. Loved it when He got flustered when Jay was dribbling around him.
Jay Will definitely gets it and laid the difference between Mr. C and Kemba the Magnificent, out beautifully.
Jay Will definitely gets it and laid the difference between Mr. C and Kemba the Magnificent, out beautifully.
View: https://twitter.com/mrmikewinch/status/1195210546867507200?s=21
Imagine how tiring it would be to play with this guy. Could never be my point guard.
Imagine how tiring it would be to play with this guy. Could never be my point guard.
I have trouble seeing how Durant's return will improve Kyrie. If Durant is significantly worse, then Kyrie, just Kyrie's (I am trying to make this a verb) the ball and sadenss ensues. If Durant is close to what he was, then he gets the ball and Kyrie Kyrie's the locker room, and team chemsitry gets totally Kyried. (Adjective form)
This is Kyrie's 6th season without King James.
I believe his playoff record is 5-4 ex-Bron
I hope his playoff record ex-Bron becomes a "thing", I'm guessing that would totally get under his skin.
His career regular-season W/L record, ex-Bron, is probably sub.500
I believe his playoff record is 5-4 ex-Bron
I hope his playoff record ex-Bron becomes a "thing", I'm guessing that would totally get under his skin.
His career regular-season W/L record, ex-Bron, is probably sub.500
this thread is not healthy for me. I don’t want to be this type of person. I am but I don’t want to be; but since it is here...yikes
View: https://twitter.com/StoolGreenie/status/1195516827947827200?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/StoolGreenie/status/1195516827947827200?s=20
good analogy
I just watched Kyrie's 3-minute autobiography on NBAtv. He must have said "happy to be home" 20X. Everything worked out for the best with Kemba coming here, but it's so hard not to tease the guy.
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Is there any way we can print and bind this copy and send it to him for his birthday? Or just drop it from the Garden rafters next time the Nets play us at home?
I will be in the house for his return. On one hand I really hope he doesn’t take a load management game. On the other hand, it would be absolutely incredible in how perfect him running from ownership would be AGAIN. Regardless, the Garden will be ready for it and will be ruthless with chants ready for either situation and I cannot wait to experience it*.
* I have a very good friend that plays professionally in Germany who left as a free agent when his team bought him out. Him and his wife had no desire to leave, the owner tried to save $ by buying him out. Afterward the owner publically said he tried to leave to go to a contender (False). Flash forward a few months and he returned “home” to the city him and his wife lived for the prior 4 years, where their newborn son was born and he was often celebrated walking around. Small town vibe. Yet, Upon his return he was booed mercilessly with his wife crying in the stands not understanding why people that claimed to root for him months earlier would be so mean when he switched teams due to ownership trying to save money. So I completely feel empathy for pro athletes that leave for personal or financial or championship reasons - we all would do the same in our own careers and are extremely hypocritical as fans. This is one of those situations where the guy is a collasal prick by all accounts and he made his own path as painful as possible.
* I have a very good friend that plays professionally in Germany who left as a free agent when his team bought him out. Him and his wife had no desire to leave, the owner tried to save $ by buying him out. Afterward the owner publically said he tried to leave to go to a contender (False). Flash forward a few months and he returned “home” to the city him and his wife lived for the prior 4 years, where their newborn son was born and he was often celebrated walking around. Small town vibe. Yet, Upon his return he was booed mercilessly with his wife crying in the stands not understanding why people that claimed to root for him months earlier would be so mean when he switched teams due to ownership trying to save money. So I completely feel empathy for pro athletes that leave for personal or financial or championship reasons - we all would do the same in our own careers and are extremely hypocritical as fans. This is one of those situations where the guy is a collasal prick by all accounts and he made his own path as painful as possible.
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Celtics 11-3 without KI last season 55-27 44-24 with
Celtics 14-8 without KI the season before. 49-33 35-25
25-11 when he didn't play in the regular season here, .694 winning percentage.
79-49 with Kyrie, .572 winning percentage.
Playoffs, 5-4 with Kyrie, .555%, 11-8 without Kyrie, .579%.
EDIT: .909 winning percentage this season without Kyrie lol.
Yeah, no one (or only idiots) is going to boo Horford, Rozier, Morris or Baynes.
The desire to punish public deal-breakers is really deep-seated in humans, and I think it’s a healthy instinct.
Booing guys is not my thing, but if I were inclined to boo, I'd let Rozier have it, too.
I think Rozier was bad for the Celtics performance-wise, but...isn't that reason to cheer for his having gone?
There's a big difference between a young guy nervously trying to get his because he wants to get paid and a deranged sociopath publicly lying to everyone.
"We avoided that super bad stretch that we've had in the past two or three games, where we just have a train wreck of an eight minutes or a quarter that doesn't go right." - Atkinson
I wonder what the difference was.
"I'm not Kyrie, you know what I mean?" - Dinwiddie
We know exactly what you mean.
"Fifteen guys bonded together, and I don't think it was pretty," Brooklyn coach Kenny Atkinson said. "Your best player's out -- let's be honest -- and everybody steps it up a level. It's really a real boost to our morale."
Yeah it's tough playing without KD.
I wonder what the difference was.
"I'm not Kyrie, you know what I mean?" - Dinwiddie
We know exactly what you mean.
"Fifteen guys bonded together, and I don't think it was pretty," Brooklyn coach Kenny Atkinson said. "Your best player's out -- let's be honest -- and everybody steps it up a level. It's really a real boost to our morale."
Yeah it's tough playing without KD.
This feels like a mirror version of the question/observation JakeRae posed about Smart 2 years ago in the first post of the Smart thread:
https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/getting-smart-with-statistics.22066/#post-2617338
Basically it was: "something good seems to happen when Marcus Smart is on your team and plays, and it's hard to measure with normal impact analysis."
In Kyrie's case, it seems to be: "most statistical analysis suggests that Kyrie Irving contributes to winning, but something bad seems to happen to the other guys when he's on your team."
Basketball is a very dynamic, interdependent game, so it wouldn't shock me if Kyrie's approach lowers the connectedness of his teams overall.
I think both players have an impact that occurs even when they're not on the court. Smart's intensity carries over from the bench, and Kyrie's funk permeates throughout the locker room. Tough to quantify those effects.
If you take out the three years with LeBron, when Kyrie was clearly not the main dog, and look at his team's record when he was the best player, his first three years in Cleveland and last two in Boston, his teams won 47% of their games with him playing, and 47% of their games when he sat.