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All things considered, I was hoping they would get a shortstop to keep Story at second... We know Story can play a great defensive second, but it isn't a sure thing at short. This implied strategy must mean they think Story is ready to bea plus shortstop again, because you really don't want Urias playing there.
 

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All things considered, I was hoping they would get a shortstop to keep Story at second... We know Story can play a great defensive second, but it isn't a sure thing at short. This implied strategy must mean they think Story is ready to bea plus shortstop again, because you really don't want Urias playing there.
Think his arm was the only issue and they’ve fixed that. He’s always been a plus defender.
 

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All things considered, I was hoping they would get a shortstop to keep Story at second... We know Story can play a great defensive second, but it isn't a sure thing at short. This implied strategy must mean they think Story is ready to bea plus shortstop again, because you really don't want Urias playing there.
Why isn't Story a sure thing at SS? Hasn't the only question about him defensively been his arm, which we now know was injured/damaged? Stands to reason that if that issue has been repaired, he should be fine at SS. All reports from Portland and Worcester are he's looked good in the field and has made all the throws. Even in his last season at SS (2021) when he was showing signs of elbow trouble, he was still a +7 Total Zone, +3.6 UZR and +9 DRS. As long as the arm is good, he'll be great at short.
 

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If Story's arm holds up you will have two good defenders at the middle infield spot, and they replace two out of the three worst hitters from roster. Maybe Urias is an offensive black hole, but he was a good hitter the previous two seasons, and was trending upwards this year before he was sent down. Wit the injury, I can see where the optimism is on him. Also, we got him for a low minor arm that we couldn't protect in the rule V draft, so he was basically free. Definitely worth a shot.
 

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I meant they must be sure his arm is back to pre-injury form, or they would be thinking of him as second baseman, not as our shortstop
This is the obvious point that some won't take seriously because they're so emotionally invested in thinking they have more information and intelligence than the front office.

There's a solid segment of the board that insists on believing it's rational to think the worst possible outcome is the most likely one, so even when evidence was mounting that he would come back as a SS, those people were screaming that he was INJURY PRONE and wouldn't play SS ever again, nevermind this year. Several of them insisted on posting that he wouldn't make it back even as video came up from the minors of him making barehanded plays and hitting hometuns, and now they've gone conspicuously quiet now that he's due back to play SS for the big club in two days. And you can bet if he gets abducted by aliens they'll be back to calling him injury-prone.
 

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This is the obvious point that some won't take seriously because they're so emotionally invested in thinking they have more information and intelligence than the front office.

There's a solid segment of the board that insists on believing it's rational to think the worst possible outcome is the most likely one, so even when evidence was mounting that he would come back as a SS, those people were screaming that he was INJURY PRONE and wouldn't play SS ever again, nevermind this year. Several of them insisted on posting that he wouldn't make it back even as video came up from the minors of him making barehanded plays and hitting hometuns, and now they've gone conspicuously quiet now that he's due back to play SS for the big club in two days. And you can bet if he gets abducted by aliens they'll be back to calling him injury-prone.
Don’t forget that Story was a panic driven free agent overpay by Bloom that cost them Xander. Clear evidence that Bloom is incompetent.
 

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I'm sure part of the attraction of Urias is that he has positional flexibility. He has over 1,000 innings at shortstop. Not great innings, but he's played the position.

Even in a perfect world, Story is not going to be an every day SS at least initially. He'll need off days at least in August and probably in September. If Chang was going to be the guy to go to make room for Story anyway, then it was urgent to get a guy who could play a bit there if needed -- unless you're ok rolling Arroyo out there.
 

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It's the old Bert Blyleven-Jack Morris thing where some people like players who have "tough"-sounding, "manly" names like Jack or (to a lesser extent) Brad, not "nerdy/scholarly"-sounding names like Bert or (to a lesser extent) Bradley.
We need more guys like Studley McFuckemallerson, Lance Deadshot, and Jackson F. Monument.
 

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At this point I want him to play. What, is he going to be significantly worse than Arroyo? Try and find out what you have there, it's not like Mayer is banging on the door of the majors and Story is projected to shift back to second any time soon.
 

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Urias has been pretty mediocre in AAA this season, too. His stats in 29 games are .233/.345/.379, which gives him a slightly lower OPS than he had at the major league level last year (.725 too .739). Seems like he’s just going through it this year. Maybe a change of scenery will jump start him.
 

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This is the obvious point that some won't take seriously because they're so emotionally invested in thinking they have more information and intelligence than the front office.

There's a solid segment of the board that insists on believing it's rational to think the worst possible outcome is the most likely one, so even when evidence was mounting that he would come back as a SS, those people were screaming that he was INJURY PRONE and wouldn't play SS ever again, nevermind this year. Several of them insisted on posting that he wouldn't make it back even as video came up from the minors of him making barehanded plays and hitting hometuns, and now they've gone conspicuously quiet now that he's due back to play SS for the big club in two days. And you can bet if he gets abducted by aliens they'll be back to calling him injury-prone.
He will stop getting called injury-prone the moment he plays a semi-full season for this team and not a second before. He's had two years completely destroyed by injury, so being skeptical of his ability to stay on the field during the duration of this contract is entirely warranted.

At some point reality has to take precedence. Last year he played 94 out of a possible 162 games, and this year has has played 0 out of a possible 106 games. You cannot look at those stats without wondering if he will ever be semi-durable again. His time in Boston can only be described as disappointing not only due to injuries but due to the fact that his offense last year was pretty mediocre as well (OPS+ of 100). Not what the team was hoping for given his $20 million annual salary.

It's more than fair to wonder if a guy who has just suffered an arm injury, a guy whose throwing arm was already reported to be in decline before signing with Boston, can handle the rigors of playing shortstop every day. He was a superior defensive second baseman last year, but in large part his arm isn't as strained at second as it will be at short.

Skepticism is entirely warranted and reasonable. Proceed with caution, is what I'm saying. I hope the Sox have a backup plan in case Story cannot handle the physical rigors of shortstop.
 
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He will stop getting called injury-prone the moment he plays a semi-full season for this team and not a second before. He's had two years completely destroyed by injury, so being skeptical of his ability to stay on the field during the duration of this contract is entirely warranted.

At some point reality has to take precedence. Last year he played 94 out of a possible 162 games, and this year has has played 0 out of a possible 106 games. You cannot look at those stats without wondering if he will ever be semi-durable again. His time in Boston can only be described as disappointing not only due to injuries but due to the fact that his offense last year was pretty mediocre as well (OPS+ of 100). Not what the team was hoping for given his $20 million annual salary.

And it's more than fair to wonder if a guy who has just suffered an arm injury, a guy whose throwing arm was already reported to be in decline before signing with Boston, can handle the rigors of playing shortstop every day. He was a superior defensive second baseman last year, but in large part his arm isn't as strained at second as it will be at short.
I can't help noticing how often when you argue you speak in absolutes: "not a second before," "completely destroyed," "reality has to take precedence," "you cannot look at those stats without wondering if he will ever be durable again..."

Rather than doing that, let's get into definitions and actually talk about the facts of his injuries (since, as you insist, reality must take precedent!) here, because I'm beginning to think we just have different definitions. What do you mean by injury prone? Does getting your wrist broken by a pitch make you injury prone? What about food poisoning? Because that was the majority of Story's time missed time last year. To me, that's bad luck, which is distinct from injury proneness.

My idea of injury prone is, this guy has a musculoskeletal condition that leads him to have all kinds of hamstring or back issues (yes, I'm aware he needed UCL repair, we'll get to that), or this other guy over here has torn his ACL twice, or this guy has a degenerative knee condition. They're injury prone because their constitution and the injuries they've had indicate they're at risk for further injuries of similar or the same type. Would you disagree with that definition?

To wit, is Justin Turner injury prone because he missed most of spring training after getting hit in the face? Is Tanner Houck injury prone because he got hit in the face with a line drive? What if Tanner Houck got hit by a bus before he came back from getting hit in the face? Would we then say he is prone to getting struck by fast-moving objects? Or would we say, man, that is a miserable coincidence?

When it comes to UCL reconstruction... pitchers have been returning from Tommy John surgery for decades now with an arm that's just as strong, stronger, or slightly less. There are risks to UCL reconstruction, but with pitchers (who obviously carry more risk as they have to throw way more than shortstops), the success rate is reportedly 80-85%. It's not the death knell that a torn labrum or rotator cuff is, so why are you so skeptical that his arm will be less strong?

If he was a pitcher coming back with a reconstructed UCL, would you assert that he was injury prone because he had his wrist broken from an errant pitch and exactly one Tommy John surgery? Story played 92% of his games in Colorado - does that all go out the window too?

What I'm getting at is that luck does exist, and that Story has had a combination of some bad luck in his first year and a bad elbow, but that we don't really have reason to believe his elbow is bad anymore. Is it possible the UCL reconstruction fails? Yes. Likely? No: he's not being asked to throw 40 pitches every two days or 100 pitches every five days, he's being asked to make three or four throws from shortstop once a game, which he has handled without any setbacks in the minors or in his rehab before that. Now, if you want to call Adalberto Mondesi injury prone, be my guest: he can't stay on the field and couldn't get his ACL reconstructed without setbacks.

As for his hitting, more than fair to point out he was less productive than he was in Colorado. He still was very productive: a WAR of 2.4 in 94 games is pretty good any way you slice it. I'm hoping the reconstructed elbow will herald a return to hitting form. His K% spiked by 7% coming to Boston, which is pretty crazy.
 

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That's a lot of words to say "he's missed a ton of time but I don't want to call him injury prone."

We lived through this with Jed Lowrie. The man could not and would not stay healthy. He played 14 years in MLB and was healthy for only 5 of them. And the reasons for it don't really matter. Whether it's UCL surgery, a pulled hammy, or dengue fever, the end result was the same: he was not on the field.

So it goes with Story. He has missed something like 75% of the last two years' worth of games and you're trying to play semantics with it. He didn't get hit in the face like Houck, so that comparison doesn't hold true. He's not on the field due to other issues including a blown out elbow. He cannot and has not stayed healthy. Until he shows that he can stay on the field in Boston it's reasonable and fair to be skeptical of his ability to contribute to the success of this team. Once he returns to the field, it is reasonable and fair to be skeptical of his ability to play shortstop on a reconstructed elbow until he proves he can do so.

In God We Trust, all others must pay cash. Trevor Story is going to be paying cash for a long time until he can be counted upon to stay on the field.
 

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We lived through this with Jed Lowrie. The man could not and would not stay healthy. He played 14 years in MLB and was healthy for only 5 of them. And the reasons for it don't really matter. Whether it's UCL surgery, a pulled hammy, or dengue fever, the end result was the same: he was not on the field.

So it goes with Story. He has missed something like 75% of the last two years' worth of games and you're trying to play semantics with it. He's not on the field. He cannot and has not stayed healthy. Until he shows that he can stay on the field in Boston it's reasonable and fair to be skeptical of his ability to contribute to the success of this team. Once he returns to the field, it is reasonable and fair to be skeptical of his ability to play shortstop on a reconstructed elbow until he proves he can do so.
I can never understand how Babe Ruth made it to the Hall of Fame after hitting .181 with the Boston Braves in '35. He sucked.
 

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That's a lot of words to say "he's missed a ton of time but I don't want to call him injury prone."

We lived through this with Jed Lowrie. The man could not and would not stay healthy. He played 14 years in MLB and was healthy for only 5 of them. And the reasons for it don't really matter. Whether it's UCL surgery, a pulled hammy, or dengue fever, the end result was the same: he was not on the field.

So it goes with Story. He has missed something like 75% of the last two years' worth of game and you're trying to play semantics with it. He's not on the field. He cannot and has not stayed healthy. Until he shows that he can stay on the field in Boston it's reasonable and fair to be skeptical of his ability to contribute to the success of this team.
I'll be honest with you: this is a pretty frustrating response on any number of levels. I put a lot of thought into my post and even did some research into the rate of UCL reconstruction success/failure! Which you're entirely dismissing as verbiage and semantics. What kind of board do you want this to be? One where there's facts and research behind the arguments we make, or one in which you throw temper tantrums?

Comparing Story to Lowrie is nonsensical: Story playing 92% of his games in Colorado. Story has played full seasons in 5/7 seasons when he was a full-timer. Lowrie played full-time 5 times in 13 years. They're entirely different cases.
 

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I'll be honest with you: this is a pretty frustrating response on any number of levels. I put a lot of thought into my post and even did some research into the rate of UCL reconstruction success/failure! Which you're entirely dismissing as verbiage and semantics. What kind of board do you want this to be? One where there's facts and research behind the arguments we make, or one in which you throw temper tantrums?

Comparing Story to Lowrie is nonsensical: Story playing 92% of his games in Colorado. Story has played full seasons in 5/7 seasons when he was a full-timer. Lowrie played full-time 5 times in 13 years. They're entirely different cases.
No one is throwing a temper tantrum. You made a compo with Houck and I noted that it was invalid for good reason. I spoke of my skepticism and the reasons for it and you respond by accusing me of throwing a tantrum while admitting frustration.

I'm done with this as it's clearly not a productive convo. I told you why I'm skeptical of Story, you got frustrated. Take it to my DMs if you want to continue.
 

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No one is throwing a temper tantrum. You made a compo with Houck and I noted that it was invalid for good reason. I spoke of my skepticism and the reasons for it and you respond by accusing me of throwing a tantrum while admitting frustration.

I'm done with this as it's clearly not a productive convo. I told you why I'm skeptical of Story, you got frustrated. Take it to my DMs if you want to continue.
All the other points he validly made about Story's health and how his latest injury is more of the freak variety and not a sign that he's injury-prone, you're just going to ignore those? And bring up Jed Lowrie for no reason? It's OK to admit defeat sometimes.
 

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No one is throwing a temper tantrum. You made a compo with Houck and I noted that it was invalid for good reason. I spoke of my skepticism and the reasons for it and you respond by accusing me of throwing a tantrum while admitting frustration.

I'm done with this as it's clearly not a productive convo. I told you why I'm skeptical of Story, you got frustrated. Take it to my DMs if you want to continue.
You know I love ya, SJH, but you’re wrong here. Some good points are being made and you’re ignoring them.
 

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Urias has been pretty mediocre in AAA this season, too. His stats in 29 games are .233/.345/.379, which gives him a slightly lower OPS than he had at the major league level last year (.725 too .739). Seems like he’s just going through it this year. Maybe a change of scenery will jump start him.
I looked at his July stats the other day to see if there was anything to indicate that he was trending upwards, which might suggest a recovery from an injury that might have been impacting his performance earlier in the season. Can't seem to find them now to state them with precision, but they were a tick better - something like .250/.390/.450. Probably grasping at straws, but maybe there's something there.
 

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All the other points he validly made about Story's health and how his latest injury is more of the freak variety and not a sign that he's injury-prone, you're just going to ignore those? And bring up Jed Lowrie for no reason? It's OK to admit defeat sometimes.
You know I love ya, SJH, but you’re wrong here. Some good points are being made and you’re ignoring them.
Thank you. I feel like I'm going crazy. Trying to have a reasonable discussion with a brick wall is not the best use of my time.
 

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I'm sure part of the attraction of Urias is that he has positional flexibility. He has over 1,000 innings at shortstop. Not great innings, but he's played the position.

Even in a perfect world, Story is not going to be an every day SS at least initially. He'll need off days at least in August and probably in September. If Chang was going to be the guy to go to make room for Story anyway, then it was urgent to get a guy who could play a bit there if needed -- unless you're ok rolling Arroyo out there.
There was a report somewhere immediately after the trade that discussed how the Brewers stretched Urias by playing him at 3B rather than his natural 2B, where they had Kolten Wong.

Let's consider him a 2B, and put aside the bad three weeks of games he played coming back from his hamstring injury this year. Over their 2021-22 seasons, Luis Urias stacks up very similarly to another prominent 2B, one that a lot of people here wanted to trade for over the winter.

XX, age 27-28: 1327 PA, .252/.336/.425 | 9.4 BB%, 16.7 K%, .172 ISO, 6.4% Barrels, .329 wOBA, 112 wRC+
LU, age 24-25: 1042 PA, .244/.340/.426 | 10.8 BB%, 20.6 K%, .182 ISO, 8.8% Barrels, .334 wOBA, 111 wRC+

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I expected more at the deadline, but if you'd have told me at the top of the 2023 season we'd be getting this guy as our starting 2B through 2025, basically for free, I'd be pretty happy about.
 

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I'll be honest with you: this is a pretty frustrating response on any number of levels. I put a lot of thought into my post and even did some research into the rate of UCL reconstruction success/failure! Which you're entirely dismissing as verbiage and semantics. What kind of board do you want this to be? One where there's facts and research behind the arguments we make, or one in which you throw temper tantrums?

Comparing Story to Lowrie is nonsensical: Story playing 92% of his games in Colorado. Story has played full seasons in 5/7 seasons when he was a full-timer. Lowrie played full-time 5 times in 13 years. They're entirely different cases.
Thanks for your detailed, reasoned, researched response. I can see that you were attempting to disringuish back luck time lost vs injuries that predictably lead to more lost time in the future. Certainly, a HBP injury can be predictive (e.g. Nomar).
I dont know if Story's continued to plague him, but I don't think it did.

Many of us appreciate your approach, Fishy, and consider this approach the foundation of SoSH (I've been coming here since 2003). I, for one, do not appreciate SJH's takes but he's a Dope, so I tread lightly.
 

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Thank you. I feel like I'm going crazy. Trying to have a reasonable discussion with a brick wall is not the best use of my time.
Except, you're somewhat dismissing SJH's underlying argument in that Story's been with the Sox a season and a half and has played just 94 games. You're looking at it from a granular level while SJH is looking at it from a results perspective. In other words, you're both looking at the same data and coming up with vastly different conclusions based entirely upon your respective perspectives yet both are correct.

In that time, yes, he's had food poisoning, broken a wrist, had a heel injury, in addition to having UCL surgery. All in one year. Are some of those flukes, yes? Are they indication of future success once he puts them behind him... well... I'm not so sure. We've all seen a lot of players that just couldn't stay healthy (fluky reasons or not) So far... it's 94 out 170 games that he's been on the field. Right now, he's Schrödinger's cat. We don't know if he's dead or alive until we open the cupboard. He hasn't played shortstop at the major league level since 2021, but has to be better than Kike with the glove at short. His bat is currently hitting .241 for the WooSox so I'm not optimistic he'll be much better than the others that have been penciled in that position this year.

We really won't know until we open the cupboard.
 

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Except, you're somewhat dismissing SJH's underlying argument in that Story's been with the Sox a season and a half and has played just 94 games. You're looking at it from a granular level while SJH is looking at it from a results perspective. In other words, you're both looking at the same data and coming up with vastly different conclusions based entirely upon your respective perspectives yet both are correct.
This. SJH was wrong in the sense that he was ignoring what Fishy was saying but he wasn’t wrong that the contract hasn’t been great due to all the time Story has missed. Most of Story’s issues were more of the fluke variety or related to the elbow which should not be an issue going forward but he’s been paid a pretty penny so far for a handful of games. That’s not a win for Bloom. And honestly the elbow should have been a red flag from the jump.
 

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Except, you're somewhat dismissing SJH's underlying argument in that Story's been with the Sox a season and a half and has played just 94 games. You're looking at it from a granular level while SJH is looking at it from a results perspective. In other words, you're both looking at the same data and coming up with vastly different conclusions based entirely upon your respective perspectives yet both are correct.

In that time, yes, he's had food poisoning, broken a wrist, had a heel injury, in addition to having UCL surgery. All in one year. Are some of those flukes, yes? Are they indication of future success once he puts them behind him... well... I'm not so sure. We've all seen a lot of players that just couldn't stay healthy (fluky reasons or not) So far... it's 94 out 170 games that he's been on the field. Right now, he's Schrödinger's cat. We don't know if he's dead or alive until we open the cupboard. He hasn't played shortstop at the major league level since 2021, but has to be better than Kike with the glove at short. His bat is currently hitting .241 for the WooSox so I'm not optimistic he'll be much better than the others that have been penciled in that position this year.

We really won't know until we open the cupboard.
I dont think anyone's really saying "Story's been great so far." The disagreement is what his absences over the last 2 years portends going forward.
 

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I want a more rational debate over Babe Ruth's hot dog eating prowess
According to the data, his consumption dropped off. But given the drop in quality from New York hot dogs to Boston hot dogs, his net OPS (ObesePieceofShit) remained stable.
 

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That's a lot of words to say "he's missed a ton of time but I don't want to call him injury prone."

We lived through this with Jed Lowrie. The man could not and would not stay healthy. He played 14 years in MLB and was healthy for only 5 of them. And the reasons for it don't really matter. Whether it's UCL surgery, a pulled hammy, or dengue fever, the end result was the same: he was not on the field.

So it goes with Story. He has missed something like 75% of the last two years' worth of games and you're trying to play semantics with it. He didn't get hit in the face like Houck, so that comparison doesn't hold true. He's not on the field due to other issues including a blown out elbow. He cannot and has not stayed healthy. Until he shows that he can stay on the field in Boston it's reasonable and fair to be skeptical of his ability to contribute to the success of this team. Once he returns to the field, it is reasonable and fair to be skeptical of his ability to play shortstop on a reconstructed elbow until he proves he can do so.

In God We Trust, all others must pay cash. Trevor Story is going to be paying cash for a long time until he can be counted upon to stay on the field.
That's a pretty dismissive method of encouraging folks to "show your work".
 

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As much as I think he's a defensive upgrade over Arroyo, I'm not expecting Urias to hit whatsoever. Something was clearly off with his offense after coming back from his injury and I don't expect they've fixed it overnight.
 

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As much as I think he's a defensive upgrade over Arroyo, I'm not expecting Urias to hit whatsoever. Something was clearly off with his offense after coming back from his injury and I don't expect they've fixed it overnight.
We’ll see how his bat bounces back, but my expectation is more like the reverse. Arroyo may be a bit better defensively but not all that much.

Urias has been more than fine at the plate in AAA over the last month. The biggest difference is their plate discipline, which seems to give Urias a higher floor. Arroyo’s chase rate had gotten out of control, 14th worst among 296 MLB hitters this year (min. 200 PA).
 

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Small sample size warning…

what do we think of Urias after his first three games at 2B?

On base 5 times (2b,Bb) in 12 at bats. One bad defensive play holding the ball too long but he made a few nice plays.

Seems like a potentially nice upgrade. Story coming back moves Chang out of line up.

Side note: I would like the Sox to give Wong some additional rest… the McGuire injury really pressed him in to extended action and he seems a little worn down.
 

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That's a lot of words to say "he's missed a ton of time but I don't want to call him injury prone."

We lived through this with Jed Lowrie. The man could not and would not stay healthy. He played 14 years in MLB and was healthy for only 5 of them. And the reasons for it don't really matter. Whether it's UCL surgery, a pulled hammy, or dengue fever, the end result was the same: he was not on the field.

So it goes with Story. He has missed something like 75% of the last two years' worth of games and you're trying to play semantics with it. He didn't get hit in the face like Houck, so that comparison doesn't hold true. He's not on the field due to other issues including a blown out elbow. He cannot and has not stayed healthy. Until he shows that he can stay on the field in Boston it's reasonable and fair to be skeptical of his ability to contribute to the success of this team. Once he returns to the field, it is reasonable and fair to be skeptical of his ability to play shortstop on a reconstructed elbow until he proves he can do so.

In God We Trust, all others must pay cash. Trevor Story is going to be paying cash for a long time until he can be counted upon to stay on the field.
I would call Arroyo injury prone. He has missed time every single season due to a variety of different injuries. With Arroyo, it was never just one injury. I don't think he's ever played a full season.
Trevor Story is different. He has missed time with 2 injuries, the surgery this year and getting hit by a pitch last year. He played over 90 percent of his games before that. Assuming his surgery is successful, there is no reason not to expect Trevor to go back to playing 90 percent of Red Sox games.
Arroyo probably tripped getting out of his car in Worcester this morning.
 

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Luis Urías is the first Red Sox player to hit a grand slam in back-to-back games played since Jimmie Foxx in 1940.
He's the first Red Sox No. 9 hitter to hit a grand slam against the Yankees since Luis Rivera hit one vs Jeff Robinson on Aug. 31, 1990.
Urías is the first player with a grand slam in consecutive plate appearances since Josh Willingham did it in consecutive innings on July 27, 2009.
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bigq

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I think they were on consecutive pitches and if so I’m not sure but it may be the first time in MLB history.
 
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