Kyrie is hurt and we have schadenfreude

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Playing victim. This is being thrown on him. He was never told going into the season that this was going to happen. He didn’t know this was how things were going to play out. People are telling him what to do and how he feels. People are saying things about him with respect to his teammates and team.

Victim, victim, victim.

Sounds familiar.
 

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I find it hard to believe that there's a team with sufficient cap room and confidence in their coaching staff's ability to handle a malcontent to trade for him, but you know the NBA better than I do.
Well I still ask that question of who says no to Simmons-for-Kyrie and I’m not buying that the answer is Durant. I don’t believe that for one second post-NYC mandate. I supppse maybe Philly says no bc they would be making the Nets a much more complete and balanced team but who can they get better than Kyrie for Simmons?

Edit: This is assuming Simmons agrees to be vaccinated.
 

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Well I still ask that question of who says no to Simmons-for-Kyrie and I’m not buying that the answer is Durant. I don’t believe that for one second post-NYC mandate. I supppse maybe Philly says no bc they would be making the Nets a much more complete and balanced team but who can they get better than Kyrie for Simmons?

Edit: This is assuming Simmons agrees to be vaccinated.
The problem is that if Kyrie won't extend with them, you're taking on a guy who's one of the biggest flight risks in the league. They can't justify Simmons for a year of Kyrie after seeing what Kyrie's verbal assurances are worth (if he'd even give them).
 

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Playing victim. This is being thrown on him. He was never told going into the season that this was going to happen. He didn’t know this was how things were going to play out. People are telling him what to do and how he feels. People are saying things about him with respect to his teammates and team.

Victim, victim, victim.

Sounds familiar.
Throw in a large pile of selfish & immature, and the meal is complete. From the Shams tweet:
Everybody is entitled to do what they feel is what’s best for themselves.
No regard for either the idea that he's also "entitled" to the consequences of his decision, or that his "entitlement" ends when he inflicts consequences on others.
 

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The problem is that if Kyrie won't extend with them, you're taking on a guy who's one of the biggest flight risks in the league. They can't justify Simmons for a year of Kyrie after seeing what Kyrie's verbal assurances are worth (if he'd even give them).
I don't know. Toronto sold out for a yeah of Kawhi, and it worked out ok.

Given Simmons' damaged packaging, getting a year of Kyrie might not be a bad return.

And while I agree that it's the smart play from Brooklyn's POV, that doesn't mean that Durant wouldn't kill it though. Who knows what's in his head. Is he sick of Kyrie's shit? If not, does he flex here because he can?
 

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I don't know. Toronto sold out for a yeah of Kawhi, and it worked out ok.

Given Simmons' damaged packaging, getting a year of Kyrie might not be a bad return.

And while I agree that it's the smart play from Brooklyn's POV, that doesn't mean that Durant wouldn't kill it though. Who knows what's in his head. Is he sick of Kyrie's shit? If not, does he flex here because he can?
Go back and check out my posts regarding KD on the last page. On Monday, Woj reported that the Nets front office, along with Harden and Durant, would make a "group" decision on Kyrie. The following day, the Nets announced that Kyrie couldn't play for them unless he could play full time, home and away.

No reason to believe, at this point, that KD isn't on the "Fuck Kyrie" bandwagon.
 

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Go back and check out my posts regarding KD on the last page. On Monday, Woj reported that the Nets front office, along with Harden and Durant, would make a "group" decision on Kyrie. The following day, the Nets announced that Kyrie couldn't play for them unless he could play full time, home and away.

No reason to believe, at this point, that KD isn't on the "Fuck Kyrie" bandwagon.
Yeah you could be right. Could also be that it was a concession on KDs part to allow the org to up the pressure on Irving, in the hopes that Kyrie sucks it up and gets a shot. Doesn't mean necessarily that he'd sign off on a trade.

You can be pissed at someone without wanting them gone.
 

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For one year of a guy who took the season before off? I disagree.

Looks like a no-brainer in retrospect, since Kawhi's leg was fine and since Toronto won it all.
They already wanted out of Derozan's contract, so when you consider that they already considered that a negative asset they gave up very little.
 

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Given the circus Kyrie brings to town (and the locker room) I’m not sure how many teams even see him as a net positive asset at this point. Sure he’s a talented player but his availability is very questionable, he has poisoned relationships on multiple teams, and he may just not show up.

How many teams even want him for free, much less giving up any assets? Maybe a deal based around picks conditioned on games played?
 

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Given the circus Kyrie brings to town (and the locker room) I’m not sure how many teams even see him as a net positive asset at this point. Sure he’s a talented player but his availability is very questionable, he has poisoned relationships on multiple teams, and he may just not show up.

How many teams even want him for free, much less giving up any assets? Maybe a deal based around picks conditioned on games played?
Are you writing about Kyrie Irving or Reggie Jackson?