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That's the drum he was beating before Holley arrived at the studio. When Holley was there his stance became more of an indictment on the professor himself.
 

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Boston.com has an article up now on Sgt Crowley's appearance on D&C this morning, along with a few excerpts from the interview. Crowley's quotes are clearly identified, but the ones from Dennis or Callahan are attributed to "the hosts." Maybe the author (Andrew Ryan) couldn't distinguish between the two voices, but seasoned listeners should have no trouble figuring out which remarks came out of Callahan's mouth.
 

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I don't listen to D&C often, but I happened to be listening to them this morning. What a couple of racist, ignorant, idiotic, unintelligent, condescending pricks. I felt like I needed to shower after listening to them. I never heard their infamous "Roxbury gorilla" comment, but it doesn't shock me. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out why Callahan was so angry. He kept railing away at Gates and praising Crowley, as if he was actually present at the time of the incident. The ironic thing was that, when Crowley stated that people shouldn't comment about such issues without first hand knowledge, Callahan whoreheartedly agreed.
 

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QUOTE (FungosWithJimy @ Jul 23 2009, 03:10 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2438592
I don't listen to D&C often, but I happened to be listening to them this morning. What a couple of racist, ignorant, idiotic, unintelligent, condescending pricks. I felt like I needed to shower after listening to them. I never heard their infamous "Roxbury gorilla" comment, but it doesn't shock me. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out why Callahan was so angry. He kept railing away at Gates and praising Crowley, as if he was actually present at the time of the incident. The ironic thing was that, when Crowley stated that people shouldn't comment about such issues without first hand knowledge, Callahan whoreheartedly agreed.

Dennis and Callahan aside, I thought Crowley sounded reasonable. I have no idea whether verbally abusing a policy officer and making remarks about his mother is actually an arrestable offense, but only an idiot would do it.

I'm quite white, and my attitude with cops is to assume they're all on power trips and will be set off by the slightest provocations. I came to this conclusion several years ago when trying to get to work in Manhattan on Columbus Day. I needed to get across 5th Avenue and that meant crossing the parade. Myself and another white guy in a suit started to cross at the wrong time, and I thought the cops were going to kill us. The other guy got a little mouthy with one of the policemen, and before I knew it he was in handcuffs and being shoved in the back of a police van.
 

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John Dennis admitted he's never finished a beer in his life. and is proud, gerry wants to berate him I think but holds off. Between 6 and 7am was ok as they talked shit beer everyone drank back in day. As that was topic due to Crowley choosing Blue Moon and Skip Red Stripe or Beck's. Crowley could have picked some low level knickerbocker or something but they were upset with Blue Moon choice.
JD doesn't like the taste apparently but wow who hasn't had a beer, they could have killed him for it a la meter. Not calling for it but lost respect for Dino, guess he's hardcore scotch/gin/vodka.
 

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They're talking sports today, and though it's not "ground breaking radio," it's certainly fine for the morning drive.

If D&C put together programs likes this against the "morning zoo" of Toucher and Rich, then 98.5 is going to have a big problem in the mornings.
 

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QUOTE (Phenom @ Jul 29 2009, 09:34 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2451172
They're talking sports today, and though it's not "ground breaking radio," it's certainly fine for the morning drive.

If D&C put together programs likes this against the "morning zoo" of Toucher and Rich, then 98.5 is going to have a big problem in the mornings.


Though they also had Lenny Clarke on this morning, who is complete radio diarrhea.
 

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QUOTE (Phenom @ Jul 29 2009, 09:34 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2451172
They're talking sports today, and though it's not "ground breaking radio," it's certainly fine for the morning drive.

If D&C put together programs likes this against the "morning zoo" of Toucher and Rich, then 98.5 is going to have a big problem in the mornings.

That's the thing though, D&C will never consistently be able to focus on sports, because there is always something going on that gets more of Gerry's attention (Obama speech, crooked local politician, union strike, civil rights issues, a Democractic blunder, ect ect ect). I guess Wolfe can try to force him to focus on sports, but we've heard how lame they get when they feign interest in subjects.

That whole "name the best player for every jersey number" was downright embarrassing. Gerry had major difficulties with that one. Oh, in his defense, he only missed the really obscure no-name players, like Wayne Gretzky and Jim Brown.
 

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QUOTE (Razor Shines @ Jul 29 2009, 10:07 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2451240
That's the thing though, D&C will never consistently be able to focus on sports, because there is always something going on that gets more of Gerry's attention (Obama speech, crooked local politician, union strike, civil rights issues, a Democractic blunder, ect ect ect). I guess Wolfe can try to force him to focus on sports, but we've heard how lame they get when they feign interest in subjects.

That whole "name the best player for every jersey number" was downright embarrassing. Gerry had major difficulties with that one. Oh, in his defense, he only missed the really obscure no-name players, like Wayne Gretzky and Jim Brown.

I think they can if they have to. Up until August 13th, they've never had any serious competition so they could talk about whatever they wanted to. Once their ratings dip slightly, they will presumably change their tune and devote 50-75% of the show to sports talk instead of politics.

The political stuff will never go away, but I am confident that they are professional enough to know when they need to shake things up a bit.

edit: As for the numbers thing, even though I work with numbers all day long, I'd probably get 75% of the current Sox numbers wrong because it isn't something that I pay attention to. Maybe they shouldn't have played the game, but I'm not going to fault Callahan for that.
 

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QUOTE (HomeBrew1901 @ Jul 29 2009, 10:41 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2451293
I think they can if they have to. Up until August 13th, they've never had any serious competition so they could talk about whatever they wanted to. Once their ratings dip slightly, they will presumably change their tune and devote 50-75% of the show to sports talk instead of politics.


You want to make a wager that they shift to 50-75% sports? As long as Obama is in the White House Callahan will find reasons to bitch about what he is doing. They've been 75/25 politics to sports during one of the best eras in Boston sports history. Unless they start getting killed in the ratings I see very little change coming from D&C and WEEI as a whole, I think the station is far too arrogant and confident in their "product" at this point to make any major changes.
 

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QUOTE (BS_SoxFan @ Jul 29 2009, 10:46 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2451314
You want to make a wager that they shift to 50-75% sports? As long as Obama is in the White House Callahan will find reasons to bitch about what he is doing. They've been 75/25 politics to sports during one of the best eras in Boston sports history. Unless they start getting killed in the ratings I see very little change coming from D&C and WEEI as a whole, I think the station is far too arrogant and confident in their "product" at this point to make any major changes.

Apparently you missed the whole point that they have never felt a need to change anything because of their ratings. If you believe as I do, that their ratings are mostly due to a lack of competition in a sports crazed town, then once their ratings dip they will be forced to change. It won't happen on August 14th, but I can almost guarantee that after a quarter or two of seeing their ratings slip they will change, they won't have a choice.

edit: However, if T&R suck and D&C's ratings don't change, then they won't change a single thing because obviously what they are doing works (at least in EEI's mind).
 

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Listened from 6:45 - 7:30 today. Fantastic radio. Trade talk until about 6:55, then 15 minutes of comercial, then a great interview with Schilling where he pretty much decimated Dice-K.

What sucked is that 15-20 minute commercial break because it allowed me to turn over to T&R just in time to catch the drunken Red Sox recap which was kind of funny but didn't keep my attention long enough to see if the commercial break ended on EEI.
 

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I have not listened to this show in ages, mostly because I have satellite radio.

Today I tuned in for some unknown reason and I heard Gerry Callahan say, "Would Theo have the stones to trade Youkilis for Adrian Gonzalez?"

Huh?

I think it is pretty clear that this offense needs another bat in addition to what they have, not trade their best hitter away.
 

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QUOTE (HomeBrew1901 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:49 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2454986
Listened from 6:45 - 7:30 today. Fantastic radio. Trade talk until about 6:55, then 15 minutes of comercial, then a great interview with Schilling where he pretty much decimated Dice-K.

What sucked is that 15-20 minute commercial break because it allowed me to turn over to T&R just in time to catch the drunken Red Sox recap which was kind of funny but didn't keep my attention long enough to see if the commercial break ended on EEI.


I jumped in at about 8:50, and Callahan was making pretty good points regarding how if a Victor Martinez comes here, and nobody leaves, then there is the possibility that there would be some unhappy players on the Red Sox (Ortiz sitting down against lefties, Lowell sitting against most righties, etc).

It's becoming apparent to me that John Dennis' apathy more greatly contributes to the show's problems than Callahan's "neo-conservatism" (others would call it racism, but that's besides the point ).

Because I think that Gerry Callahan still does care about sports, and still enjoys discussing sports. The problem is, when sports are discussed, Dennis has to make an effort and jump into the conversation. It's far easier for John Dennis to bring up a story about firemen collecting their pensions early, and letting Callahan go off for 2 hours. Thus, all he needs to do is transition into breaks, introduce callers, and occasionally pipe in with "RIGHT!" or "YEAH!"

I mean, seriously, when was the last time that John Dennis had an opinion on anything? Like a clear-cut opinion that he passionately defended? I think the last time that happened was when he was arguing against Ordway about the Randy Moss trade 3 years ago.
 

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QUOTE (Phenom @ Jul 30 2009, 10:58 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2455074
It's becoming apparent to me that John Dennis' apathy more greatly contributes to the show's problems than Callahan's "neo-conservatism" (others would call it racism, but that's besides the point ).

Because I think that Gerry Callahan still does care about sports, and still enjoys discussing sports. The problem is, when sports are discussed, Dennis has to make an effort and jump into the conversation. It's far easier for John Dennis to bring up a story about firemen collecting their pensions early, and letting Callahan go off for 2 hours. Thus, all he needs to do is transition into breaks, introduce callers, and occasionally pipe in with "RIGHT!" or "YEAH!"

I mean, seriously, when was the last time that John Dennis had an opinion on anything? Like a clear-cut opinion that he passionately defended? I think the last time that happened was when he was arguing against Ordway about the Randy Moss trade 3 years ago.


I've been on this side of the fence for a long time. I'd point to how improved the show when they simply replaced Dennis with Felger. Felger wasn't doing anything amazing other than giving an effort and having a semblance of sports knowledge.

Callahan is a douche, but he is a douche that sparks interest in the show. I could not tell you one thing Dennis does for the show, besides bringing in golf advertising dollars.
 

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QUOTE (Phenom @ Jul 30 2009, 10:58 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2455074
I mean, seriously, when was the last time that John Dennis had an opinion on anything? Like a clear-cut opinion that he passionately defended? I think the last time that happened was when he was arguing against Ordway about the Randy Moss trade 3 years ago.

He seemed to have a strong opinion that he had no idea who Ryan Russillo was. :buddy:
 

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QUOTE (HomeBrew1901 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:49 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2454986
Listened from 6:45 - 7:30 today. Fantastic radio. Trade talk until about 6:55, then 15 minutes of comercial, then a great interview with Schilling where he pretty much decimated Dice-K.


He also didn't exactly heap praise on Clay either. Although he did preface it by saying that his thoughts were based mostly on the Clay he knew in 2007.
 

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Why, why, why, do the higher ups at EEI allow Butch Stearns any airtime? Does he work for food like LJ?

This morning's gem:
BS: I think Cleveland is going to trade Victor Martinez today, but to Tampa.
Meter: Why do you think that?
BS: I just do. Tampa needs a catcher and they will get this done.
Meter: (with disdain) Why would they do that? They already have a catcher that is better than VM.
BS: VM is better and I just think he is going to Tampa.
Cut to commercials.

STFU Stearns, no talk of who they would trade and why, flipping idiot.
 

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I personally liked when he asked Sean McAdam the other day if he thinks Matsuzaka gets traded by Friday. He was 100% serious.
 

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QUOTE (HomeBrew1901 @ Jul 31 2009, 08:43 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2458596
Why, why, why, do the higher ups at EEI allow Butch Stearns any airtime? Does he work for food like LJ?

This morning's gem:
BS: I think Cleveland is going to trade Victor Martinez today, but to Tampa.
Meter: Why do you think that?
BS: I just do. Tampa needs a catcher and they will get this done.
Meter: (with disdain) Why would they do that? They already have a catcher that is better than VM.
BS: VM is better and I just think he is going to Tampa.
Cut to commercials.

STFU Stearns, no talk of who they would trade and why, flipping idiot.


He does suck, but he is piggy backing on the ESPN story. ESPN came up with the TB angle.
 

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QUOTE (stormshadow @ Jul 31 2009, 09:49 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2458689
He does suck, but he is piggy backing on the ESPN story. ESPN came up with the TB angle.

Honestly, it doesn't matter who came up with the angle. If he is piggy backing the ESPN story, say why you agree with it or discuss it further. I haven't read the ESPN story that you are referencing but I'm sure it lists the players that would be involved and why and if it doesn't then he should either keep his trap shut or say "According to ESPN, etc..." To say " I thing VM is going to the Tampa, I just do" is just frickin dumb.

I know this sounds like I'm jumping on you for making the point, I'm not, it just further goes to show how much of a dolt this guy is.
 

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QUOTE (HomeBrew1901 @ Jul 31 2009, 10:03 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2458712
Honestly, it doesn't matter who came up with the angle. If he is piggy backing the ESPN story, say why you agree with it or discuss it further. I haven't read the ESPN story that you are referencing but I'm sure it lists the players that would be involved and why and if it doesn't then he should either keep his trap shut or say "According to ESPN, etc..." To say " I thing VM is going to the Tampa, I just do" is just frickin dumb.

I know this sounds like I'm jumping on you for making the point, I'm not, it just further goes to show how much of a dolt this guy is.



To be honest, and I am NOT defending Sterns, but ESPN also threw out the TB angle with no names in return for TB.

What I find funny with most sports flash's and these talk show hosts, they quote other news sourse all the time and do not mention them. Meters flash's all morning when speaking about the three team trade for VM were word for word taken by the ESPN article. Every freakin flash this morning quoted the first paragraph of ESPN. For God's sake come up something original. And he is not the only one. Say what you want for Sheppard but usually he says according to....or, this is from.....

Here is the article...The Boston Red Sox and the Cleveland Indians were discussing a three-way trade Thursday night that would send Victor Martinez to Boston, Clay Buchholz to Cleveland and prospects flying in all directions, according to clubs that spoke to both teams.



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The Red Sox also would attempt to move recently acquired Adam LaRoche, either to a third team or in a companion deal, to make room for Martinez in their lineup, one source said.

The Red Sox have spent several days working on parallel deals with Toronto for Roy Halladay, San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez and Cleveland for Martinez. There were indications Thursday afternoon that they were making no headway with Toronto and San Diego, but that they were having trouble making the pieces fit with Cleveland.

They began contacting other teams to help make the deal fit and are believed to still be searching for a third team.

One potential reason for involving a third club was the need to find a destination for LaRoche, who would seem to be crowded out by the acquisition of another bat for the Boston lineup. But with very few contending teams searching for a first baseman, finding a taker for LaRoche could be a challenge.

In the meantime, the Red Sox don't appear to be the only team talking to the Indians about Martinez. There were also indications Thursday that Cleveland was still having conversations with Tampa Bay. The Indians were heavily scouting the Rays' system and had multiple scouts watching their triple-A Durham team.

However, the Rays don't seem to have the financial flexibility to absorb the approximately $2 million left on Martinez's contract this year without subtracting a player such as Scott Kazmir at the same time. One source familiar with the Rays' thinking admitted the team was still a long shot to pull off two deals that big."

And I am with you. LJ and BS need to go ASAP. They are damn near unlistenable. I liken them to ice picks in the ear drum.
 

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QUOTE (Gambler7 @ Jul 31 2009, 09:00 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2458618
I personally liked when he asked Sean McAdam the other day if he thinks Matsuzaka gets traded by Friday. He was 100% serious.



I was in the car on 290 in Worcester when I heard that. I had the windows up because I was using the air conditioning. I am completely certain that the people around me in their cars could hear me screaming at the top of my lungs ranting about how stupid this guy is. I was horse for the rest of the day because I yelled so loud and long.
 

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I was in the car on 290 in Worcester when I heard that. I had the windows up because I was using the air conditioning. I am completely certain that the people around me in their cars could hear me screaming at the top of my lungs ranting about how stupid this guy is. I was horse for the rest of the day because I yelled so loud and long.

:lol:

I've done that too.
 

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QUOTE (HomeBrew1901 @ Jul 31 2009, 08:43 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2458596
BS: I just do. Tampa needs a catcher and they will get this done.
Meter: (with disdain) Why would they do that? They already have a catcher that is better than VM.
BS: VM is better and I just think he is going to Tampa.
Cut to commercials.

STFU Stearns, no talk of who they would trade and why, flipping idiot.


Well, Stearns isn't the only stupid one there. Dioner Navarro the reason they wouldn't trade for Martinez? Seriously?
 

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Meter and Deossie filling in this morning. Meter noted that they were the first show to be on the new clock. 20/20's are now on time, not the usuall filler of 15 minutes at the top of every hour of straight commercials. It kind of had Meter out of sorts having to take many little commercail breaks.
Looks like a directive was sent down by Wolffe on this new clock.
 

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QUOTE (SteveCrawford @ Aug 6 2009, 05:45 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2477009
Meter and Deossie filling in this morning. Meter noted that they were the first show to be on the new clock. 20/20's are now on time, not the usuall filler of 15 minutes at the top of every hour of straight commercials. It kind of had Meter out of sorts having to take many little commercail breaks.
Looks like a directive was sent down by Wolffe on this new clock.


And they had the CHB on. He was actually pretty good. He must realize the newspaper gravy train could be coming to an end.
 

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So, if they have a sports flash every 20 minutes does that mean that Meter's "riffing" with D&C at the bottom of the hour is over?

Meter: And the Red Sox lost last night 6-4.
Callahan: Penny is done.
Dennis: There was a game last night?
 

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The best part of the show was DeOssie giving him shit for using his radio voice. Probably the best advice John Meterparel will ever receive.
 

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The more Meterparel is allowed to talk, the more apparent his transparency becomes. I think he tries extra hard to parallel his opinions with the ignorant townie types who call in. STEROIDS = BAD. NOMAR = JERK. Really, if I wanted to hear this type of hard-hitting analysis, I'd go chat it up with the sweaty alcoholic guy in the mailroom.

Reminds me of when he was spouting off on Theo after his hiatus, repeating the usual WEEI listener talking point (THEO = UNGRATEFUL), and Theo just gives him a verbal dropkick. I forget how the conversation went, but I remember it was hilarious.
 

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Meterperal and Stearns today. Ugh. I actually listened to this exchange this morning for 30 seconds:

Meter: (Talking about the Sox' sucky play of late) And Brad Penny is their third starter!
Stearns: That's not his fault.
Meter: But he's pitching like C-R-A-P
Stearns: That's not his fault.
Meter: Butch, he's not pitching well and hasn't for a while.
Stearns: It's not his fault. He's supposed to be the Red Sox' fifth starter.

Hopefully with the new station coming online next week, this means that the regulars won't be taking any vacation any time soon. Because as bad as D&C are when it comes to politics, at least half of that team knows a bit about sports.
 

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butch wants to give smoltz another start on tuesday in case he pitches well and pull him at the first sign of trouble, I think he means after like the second batter, not sure hes thought the logistics of this plan through.
 

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Butch also noted today that Smoltz never had "great stuff", indeed never had "Buchholz stuff." He was just good at locating pitches.

Yes, Butchie believes John Smoltz, great starting pitcher, elite closer, never had "Buchholz stuff."

I almost drove off the road.
 

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Well. He has a point. He never had Buchholz stuff. Mainly because Smoltz is going to Cooperstown and Buchholz isn't getting in without a ticket.


BTW, think Smoltz wears a Sox hat on his plaque?
 

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Is Gerry back tomorrow? Because if he's racially consistent, this should give him something to rant about:

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I agree in principle, but does anyone really think that this issue weighed that heavily on the Sox this weekend?

If so, why did the Sox starters pitch very well and the hitters sucked? It's easy to try and find someone to blame and while Ortiz having a crappy series is one reason why for the Yankee sweep, I doubt very highly that his problems effected the entire lineup.

Is Varitek batting .171 since the All-Star Game because of David Ortiz or is it because he's a 37-year-old catcher who has been regressing since 2006? Is Nick Green batting .235 because he's a AAAA player or is it Ortiz' fault. How about Mike Lowell and his gimpy knees? Was Youkilis thinking about steroids when he was out in left field on Saturday? Did Ortiz' steroid problem make Jason Bay's hamstring go owchie?

It may just be me, but I highly doubt that unless the problem is gigantic I'm not sure how someone's problems can get transferred to the entire team.

Edit: Last year it was Manny's fault. This year it's David Ortiz' fault. There's always something that "distracts" the Red Sox from playing good baseball in the summer. Either they need to ship in some Ritalin to these ADD babies or people should just stop making excuses for them and treating it as Gospel. Like Bill Parcells says, "You give a team an excuse and they'll take it."
 

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I want to believe Ortiz but why the 9 day wait.

I didn't hear D&C's take this morning (I'll venture a guess that they are leaning towards the sanctimonious side, as is their wont) but I think the 9 day wait had more to do with the player's association. I imagine the union lawyers pounced on him pretty quickly and told him "don't say anything without vetting it though us". It sucks, and it doesn't exactly make Ortiz look good, but the PA has their claws stuck pretty deep in this thing.
 

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QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Aug 10 2009, 10:31 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2494296
I agree in principle, but does anyone really think that this issue weighed that heavily on the Sox this weekend?

If so, why did the Sox starters pitch very well and the hitters sucked? It's easy to try and find someone to blame and while Ortiz having a crappy series is one reason why for the Yankee sweep, I doubt very highly that his problems effected the entire lineup.


Yeah, you are definitely right about this. They just played poorly and the Yankees played better. It did seem at times that D&C were trying to use the Ortiz situation has an explanation of why they had a rough week.
 

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I think possibly the worst thing about this show is the guy who does those unfunny impersonations when they come back from commercial break.

Who is this guy, and who finds these bits amusing?