Perdomo got a 3 game suspension and fine. Pirates manager got one game and fine.
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This makes sense. Unfortunately, I wasn't even born yet so I don't remember the team.
Looking at the link @jon abbey posted above, it seems like that team was also filled with guys that you don't really think of as Phillies. A lot of ex-Reds, future Cubs, etc.
Still, the GM firing a manager when the team is tied for 1st and taking over himself is wild, regardless of the end outcome.
I have said it before multiple times here, but if you are into watching old baseball games (I say it like that because I personally am not), the 1980 PHI/HOU NLCS was the series that made me fall in love with baseball, 43 years and counting. I was a Yankee fan very young because of my dad, going back to Chambliss in '75 when I was 8, so I saw the 76 WS-losing team and then the 77 and 78 teams too, Reggie in the WS was unforgettable.
But the Phillies/Astros I had zero attachment or primal hatred for either team, it was just baseball and it was such a crazy series to watch as a kid. Best of 5, game 1 was 3-1 PHI (and even that had a late-ish lead change, PHI with 2 in the 6th and 1 in the 7th after being down 1-0 through 5), then all four of the remaining games went extra innings, constant lead changes both ways. The deciding game 5 was 2-2 through 6 and then 7-7 after 8 (HOU 5-2, PHI 7-5, tied at 7, in consecutive half innings), before the Phillies finally took it 8-7 in 10.
My strongest memory is Terry Puhl leading off for HOU and seeming like he got a hit every time up. He was 10-19 in the 5 games, so that's one time that the memory pretty much matches the reality.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1980_NLCS.shtml
But the Phillies/Astros I had zero attachment or primal hatred for either team, it was just baseball and it was such a crazy series to watch as a kid. Best of 5, game 1 was 3-1 PHI (and even that had a late-ish lead change, PHI with 2 in the 6th and 1 in the 7th after being down 1-0 through 5), then all four of the remaining games went extra innings, constant lead changes both ways. The deciding game 5 was 2-2 through 6 and then 7-7 after 8 (HOU 5-2, PHI 7-5, tied at 7, in consecutive half innings), before the Phillies finally took it 8-7 in 10.
My strongest memory is Terry Puhl leading off for HOU and seeming like he got a hit every time up. He was 10-19 in the 5 games, so that's one time that the memory pretty much matches the reality.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1980_NLCS.shtml
I love watching old games, and would love to see restored versions of that series, because it was epic. But my white whale for great old playoff series (speaking of Reggie) would be the complete 1972 playoffs, as all series went the limit.
In the NLCS the Reds come back from down 2-1 to tie the series, and win Game 5 after trailing 3-2 entering the bottom of the ninth thanks to a game-tying homer by Bench, and pinch runner George Foster scoring on a two-out wild pitch by Bob Moose.
The ALCS between the Tigers and the A's was even wilder, with two games decided in extra innings, Lerrin LaGrow drilling Bert Campaneris in Game 2 and Campy going nuts and flinging his bat at LaGrow leading to Campy being suspended for the rest of the ALCS and the start of the 1973 season. And Reggie stealing home in Game 5 while injuring his ankle, putting him out of the WS.
The World Series pitted the two teams that dominated the early to mid-70s in a seven-game affair in which six games were decided by one run, including Game 7.
I thought HOU would finish their sweep of TEX tonight behind Framber, finally pulling into a tie for 1st, and pushing TEX into the wild-card race. But TEX is currently up 13-3 in the 5th, making me glad once again I swore off betting on sports a long time ago.
Strangely enough, I watched the team video of that series on the jumbotron during a rain delay at the Vet. The delay was long enough to cover the whole series. I was really into it even though I knew what the end result was going to be.
I can only imagine how exciting that series was as a neutral observer, let alone a fan of either team.
Incredible. When was the last time the MLB home run leader threw a complete game shutout? Even if we count weird statistical quirks like pitchers homering in early April?
This just sent me down a minor rabbit hole trying to figure out how Cal Ripken Jr finished #1 in MVP voting in 1983, then finished #27 in 1984 despite almost identical stats. This is insane.
I could see someone in 1984 seeing those numbers and thinking "yeeeeah it's not quite as good. RBIs are down, 2Bs are down, under 200 hits..." but to go from 322 MVP votes in 1983 to 1 single vote in 1984 is crazy!
The 1984 AL MVP voting was weird all the way around . That was the year of the Tigers running rampant through the AL, and Willie Hernandez's deal with the devil season. Two of the top three vote-getters were closers. That, plus the Orioles were not only a last-place team, they had a player (Eddie Murray) with better counting stats than RipkenThis just sent me down a minor rabbit hole trying to figure out how Cal Ripken Jr finished #1 in MVP voting in 1983, then finished #27 in 1984 despite almost identical stats. This is insane.
I could see someone in 1984 seeing those numbers and thinking "yeeeeah it's not quite as good. RBIs are down, 2Bs are down, under 200 hits..." but to go from 322 MVP votes in 1983 to 1 single vote in 1984 is crazy!
Ripken led all of baseball with a 10.0 WAR in ‘84 too. One vote.
I’m shocked the voters didn’t gush over Tony Armas‘ power numbers.
I’m shocked the voters didn’t gush over Tony Armas‘ power numbers.
Ohtani hits number 38. Has anyone ever pitched a shutout and hit two homers on the same day?
Edit: Vasgersian with the answer. Rick Wise with a no hitter and hit two home runs against the Reds in 1971.
Edit: Vasgersian with the answer. Rick Wise with a no hitter and hit two home runs against the Reds in 1971.
Sonny Siebert is actually the most recent with a shutout and two homers in one day though, also in 1971
Will be curious to see what bRef's WAR for him will be tomorrow morning. Before today's games, it was 6.8.
Interesting top of the 1st in St. Louis.
Ian Happ swings wildly and catches Willson Contreras on the head with his backswing, Contreras goes down with a cut on his head and walks off under his own power, backup catcher comes into the game.
Miles Milokas buzzed Happ's tower a bit with his first pitch and then put the next one into his hip. Happ calmly set his stuff down and walked to first, sort of felt like he acknowledged the tit-for-tat, and that was it. Umpires gather on the infield, seemingly to talk about issuing warnings, but throw Mikolas out of the game instead. Cardinals lose their starting battery with two outs in the first.
Ian Happ swings wildly and catches Willson Contreras on the head with his backswing, Contreras goes down with a cut on his head and walks off under his own power, backup catcher comes into the game.
Miles Milokas buzzed Happ's tower a bit with his first pitch and then put the next one into his hip. Happ calmly set his stuff down and walked to first, sort of felt like he acknowledged the tit-for-tat, and that was it. Umpires gather on the infield, seemingly to talk about issuing warnings, but throw Mikolas out of the game instead. Cardinals lose their starting battery with two outs in the first.
Saw this too. Not sure what Milokas was thinking with hitting Happ. It did not seem like he hit Contreras on purpose.
Guardians improve to 14-5 when Bo Naylor is the starting catcher.
I'd prefer to see Tyler Freeman starting at short every day with Rosario gone, but I can't complain about Gabriel Arias going 2-for-4 (both opposite field) with a walk. Plus, Oscar Gonzalez returns with a pinch-hit infield single.
I'd prefer to see Tyler Freeman starting at short every day with Rosario gone, but I can't complain about Gabriel Arias going 2-for-4 (both opposite field) with a walk. Plus, Oscar Gonzalez returns with a pinch-hit infield single.
Mets win, interestingly they knew Finnegan would be the pitcher for that whole delay, so the upcoming batters could program the pitching machines to mimic him that whole time. First batter hit a long SF after an extended AB, 2-1 final.
Yeah, this seems like the easiest decision in the world for the umpires. The rules are super clear on this if the umpires are sure it's intentional, and that's about as blatant as it gets.
They will have Holliday, Mayo and Kjerstard coming up in a year or two. And if Ortiz, Cowser and Rodriguez perform to expectations, they will be even better. They're set up for a Houston-type run with the talent in the system. The AL East is just brutal.
Ohtani is absurd. Doubleheader. Game 1 he throws a one-hit shutout. Game 2 he hits two homers.
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Now here's the thing...he hasn't played long enough for this, but in my mind, he's already on the short list of best baseball players ever. Plenty of guys have been better hitters than him. Plenty of guys have been better pitchers than him. But nobody - absolutely nobody, not even Babe Ruth - has done what this guy has been doing the past few years. Elite pitching AND elite hitting at the same time.
LOL
Now here's the thing...he hasn't played long enough for this, but in my mind, he's already on the short list of best baseball players ever. Plenty of guys have been better hitters than him. Plenty of guys have been better pitchers than him. But nobody - absolutely nobody, not even Babe Ruth - has done what this guy has been doing the past few years. Elite pitching AND elite hitting at the same time.
Reality? They had 103 team homers through May and only 47 since then. There was no way they were going to continue on that pace and their offensive regression has hit hard.
I think it's pretty clear IMO that Ohtani is the most talented baseball player ever. He'd have to play much longer to be productive enough to be considered the best player ever, but just on raw talent, he is the best.
I really wonder if he will pave the way for future two-way players. Someone like Hunter Greene was a very talented SS and highly-touted hitter, but switched to pitching full time once he was drafted. There will never be that many Ohtanis out there, but the absurdity in Ohtani almost lies in that he has been the only guy to really ever try to do both.
Ohtani had the best day ever as a MLB player and is also the greatest player ever. It’s insane.
Not anyone who was allowed to play in the AL or NL. Bullet Rogan and Martin Dihigo did it 80-100 years ago. I think Dave Winfield could have been the guy. He had the size to hold up as a pitcher and could hit and run just about as well as Ohtani. It's a shame he never got a chance to try.
Second best day:
"The epic performance came on June 23, 1971 -- 51 years ago Thursday -- as Phillies right-hander Rick Wise fired a no-no against the Reds and drove in three of Philadelphia’s four runs with his two homers."
https://www.mlb.com/news/rick-wise-no-hitter-two-homers-in-1971
My 9 year old self watched that game in real time.
It should have been a perfect game. (Edit: If I ignore the fallacy of the pre-determined outcome.) Wise got badly squeezed on his only walk of the day to Concepcion.
Single greatest performance ever, IMO.
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Even with that, I wonder how much WAR in fact underrated him by comparing his hitting against DHs
Yeah the Reds in the 1970s were a total bunch of scrubs...Ah fair. But the AL talent > NL talent.
Imagine the nerves having to get Pete Rose out to finish your no hitter.
Bernie Carbo got an at-bat in that one too and flied out.
Bernie Carbo got an at-bat in that one too and flied out.
Truly. I got bored the other night and found some random midsummer game from the big red machine - just a machine of talent.
