Isaiah Thomas traded to the Celtics
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yes we want our teams to make the playoffs.
Especially in a relatively weak Eastern Conference where we match up favorably with the #1 seed and our GM is good at finding talent late and good and making great trades.
Especially in a relatively weak Eastern Conference where we match up favorably with the #1 seed and our GM is good at finding talent late and good and making great trades.
ivanvamp said:
I think getting these young guys' feet wet in the playoffs and relying on the Nets to bottom out is better for the team, and much more likely. Acquiring young talent like Danny has will not put you in the basement. Having a bunch of old guys on bad contracts with no way out of them will, like the Nets. Players develop better when they have something like a playoff seed to play for, it pushes them harder to get better, and better together.
The Mort Report said:
Yup. We have the potential over the next few years to have our cake and eat it too. The Nets unintended but highly possible tank job, along with the Celtics young players getting valuable playoff experience. It's exactly the way you'd draw it up to be honest. A few possible lottery picks (or using them as trade assets for an established player) joining a young and hopefully, up-and-coming team.
I for one am not worried at all about the Celtics getting the #10 pick (with a few percent chance at top 3) or the #15 pick in the draft this year. Just win.
I don't have a problem with them winning because they're doing it mostly with guys who will be here long term rather than Rondo/Green/Humphries and so on. Playing hard and so on.
On the other hand, there's one player that should be available in the 8-10 range (depending on where teams end up) who would step in and immediately make this team better going forward. The remaining schedule is tougher than the recent cakewalk so we'll see.
On the other hand, there's one player that should be available in the 8-10 range (depending on where teams end up) who would step in and immediately make this team better going forward. The remaining schedule is tougher than the recent cakewalk so we'll see.
ivanvamp said:
Right now, there are six teams for two spots (four teams (IND/BOS/CHA/BRK) are tied for the #8 spot, with DET a game behind and MIA 1.5 games ahead).
Remaining games vs. .500+/.500- teams (Home/Away)
CHA - 11-15 (12/14)
DET - 11-13 (9/15) (1 GB)
BOS - 13-13 (12/14)
IND - 12-12 (10/14)
MIA - 13-12 (15/10) (1.5 GA)
BRK - 14-12 (16/10)
It is likely that the four EC losers will be slotted 9-12 in the draft. #9 has a 1.7% chance of winning the NBA draft lottery. #10-12 each has a 0.9% chance. The #8 seed in the EC will likely be slotted 15 in the draft.
Even if we discount the Hawks being ready for break our three best players from that night are either on other teams or out for the year:Dan to Theo to Ben said:
Prince, Thornton and Sullinger.
Edit- basically it is pretty tough to say we match up well when our current rotation is totally different from the rotation in any of the three games previous.
I'd say we don't though since Teague will devour IT and we have no interior defense against a team with Milsap and Horford inside.
Smart on Teague, Bradley on Carroll, and IT on Schroder. yes, I see Thornton's and Prince's +/- but we're also adding IT there.Cellar-Door said:
Jed Zeppelin said:
Each of the starters played 33+ minutes, but perhaps.
Watch him against Golden State on Sunday. He was a huge contributor to the Warriors second loss of the season (at Phoenix) and he did it in Pierce/Harden like fashion, by drawing fouls - he was 4-13 from the field but 13-14 in FTs for 22 points. He is crafty in using his quickness to get plus defenders to make mistakes. Coincidentally (or ironically if you are a fan of Alanis), he was 4-13 in their second meeting but didn't draw as much contact and only scored 13 points. That said, he had two good games against the Warriors for the Kings last season, scoring 26 points in one contest (the Kings lost of course) and 19 in another, again with most of his production coming from free-throws where he was 8-10.
As a side note, this game is the most conflicted I have been as an NBA fan in my lifetime. The Warriors need a win to stay ahead of Memphis but I want the C's to win so they can keep up in their playoff race. NBA-fan people problems...
As a side note, this game is the most conflicted I have been as an NBA fan in my lifetime. The Warriors need a win to stay ahead of Memphis but I want the C's to win so they can keep up in their playoff race. NBA-fan people problems...
Fortunately the Sixers are really the only team giving away players in fear of winning. But at the end of the day if Boston makes the playoffs they will be adding two useless rookies to next year's team, which means giving away two of their current roleplayers for potential ones. The "We have a ten man bench" approach basically requires blind luck (put another way, you have to have a year where everything goes wrong and you back into a superstar). The tenth pick in a 12 player draft has trade value, the 15th pick not so much.JCizzle said:
The Hawks certainly did. They did learn that halfassing most of the game won't work against Boston. Then again, in the playoffs their focus is going to be dispatching Boston in four games and getting their guys as much rest as possible. You won't see the Hawks take entire halves off in the playoffs.Dan to Theo to Ben said:
It could still work out for them. The major trade asset used to acquire KG was a 15th pick (Big Al). Kahwi Leonard was a 15th pick. Greek freak was a #15. No one else from the last decade stands outs in a good way, so it is still a longshot.nighthob said:
Big Al was the 15th pick in a very deep draft, and needed three years of development time before he had that sort of value. Teams trading all stars don't say "Sure, it's the 15th pick in a draft with a huge drop after 12, but 15th picks have worked out before, so why not?" Given the next two free agent classes, I want to see Boston add a real running mate this year, because stars don't sign with ten man bench teams, they go to where they have support. Marcus Smart might one day be a legit 3rd option. He isn't now. But, get Boston a legit #2 guy on draft night, and this becomes an appealing situatioin for a star.Eddie Jurak said:
Because at 5'8" he's best suited to a sixth man role. But, regardless, Minizeke isn't attracting a superstar to Boston, which is the point. To attract an alpha you need something more than a ten man bench (unless you're talking about a prime Iverson, he'd probably be attracted to a ten man bench team).
Yeah watching Isaiah defend nightly makes it easily recognizable that he is not a starting PG and best suited as your #1 option on the 2nd unit and in the 4th quarter. You can get away with him defending backup 1's but he'd kill your team matching up with starting 1's in this league on a nightly basis.
One of my favorite things about SoSH is going back and reading old posts after a trade.
Did we really get IT for a late first rounder? amazing
Ainge's work last year was spectacular
Funny you mention it. Went through the Rondo trade thread last night. Didn't see anyone saying anything about Jae in it, although I may have missed a post here or there. There was a lot going on with Brickowski getting banned.
Danny really did his homework on that trade.
No Rondo trade exception - didn't the C's have to renounce that to get under cap when they signed Amir?
