Greatest teams to NOT win the Super Bowl

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This isn't me trying to bring up a painful memory, but to honor the great teams that had fantastic seasons but just fell short in the end. They are often relegated to the trash heap of history, which is unfortunate, because it diminishes what they DID accomplish. So for me, here's a short list...

1. 2007 Patriots. Forget the Super Bowl loss, this was one of the greatest teams of all time, period, end of sentence. One in the grasp call, one holding call, or one INT that goes through the hands of Asante, and this is hands down the greatest team ever to play the sport.

2. 1987 49ers. 13-2, with the #1 offense in points scored, #1 offense in yards gained, #3 defense in points allowed, and #1 defense in yards allowed. Montana, Craig, Rice, Clark, Haley, Lott. That team was phenomenal. Inexplicably got manhandled in the divisional round by Minnesota, however.

3. 1990 Bills. 13-3. #1 ranked offense. #6 ranked defense (points). Kelly, Thomas, Reed, Bruce Smith, et al. Lost the Super Bowl by the slimmest of margins. They'd go on to appear in three more straight SBs, an NFL record.

4. 2001 Rams. 14-2, #1 offense, #3 ranked defense (yards). Juggernaut. They'd already beaten NE earlier in the year. They had the MVP in Warner. Faulk. Holt. Bruce. Two years prior they'd won the Super Bowl.

5. 1986 Bears. 14-2, #1 defense (again), even though their offense wasn't great (13th in points, 7th in yards), but it was solid. Coming off their incredible SB-winning season the year before, they were still a wagon. Lost to a really good Redskins team in the divisional round.

6. 1968 Colts. 13-1, #2 offense, #1 defense. Lost to the Jets in SB 3. They were dominant, having gone 11-1 the previous year. Two years from then they'd win the Super Bowl against Dallas.


I'll stop there. Who else ya got?

edit: mistyped 1986 for the Bears. Obviously the ‘85 Bears won the SB.
 
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1998 Vikings. 15-1. #1 points, #6 fewest points allowed, lost at home in a classic NFCCG to the Dirty Bird Falcons.
 

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1998 Vikings. 15-1. #1 points, #6 fewest points allowed, lost at home in a classic NFCCG to the Dirty Bird Falcons.
Yup. These guys deserved a SB appearance.

I’d add 2004 Steelers. That team was pretty good but the GOAT had other ideas.
 

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If we're reaching back deep, the 1942 Chicago Bears went 11-0 with a point differential of 376-84, then lost the championship game to the Washington Team-that-Won't-Be-Named. They won their last six games of the regular season by a combined score of 199-14.
 

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Washington, 1983. 14-2, their two losses each by a single point. Their 541 points scored and +209 point differential was the best in the league, with the 541 points setting an NFL record at the time. The 1983 team also had a turnover margin of +43, an NFL record.
 

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The 2019 Ravens had the unanimous MVP, a 249 point differential with a 15.6 SRS (the Niners were second at 11) and were riding a 12-game winning streak before getting waxed by the 6-seed Titans. I'm still laughing. They and the 2010 Pats are like carbon copies.
 
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Oh Man, the '85 Bears were the Super Bowl team, and the most dominant defense of the era. You mean 1986 Bears, first year minus Buddy Ryan.
 

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The 2006 Chargers were, um, pretty lights out. 14-2, first in scoring, seventh in points allowed.

Here’s one you don’t hear mentioned much: 1999 Jags. 14-2 with a pythag of 12.9, 6th in points but first in points allowed. They absolutely torched Miami 62-7 in the divisional, but lost to the Titans in the AFCCG.
 

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This isn't me trying to bring up a painful memory, but to honor the great teams that had fantastic seasons but just fell short in the end. They are often relegated to the trash heap of history, which is unfortunate, because it diminishes what they DID accomplish. So for me, here's a short list...

1. 2007 Patriots. Forget the Super Bowl loss, this was one of the greatest teams of all time, period, end of sentence. One in the grasp call, one holding call, or one INT that goes through the hands of Asante, and this is hands down the greatest team ever to play the sport.

2. 1987 49ers. 13-2, with the #1 offense in points scored, #1 offense in yards gained, #3 defense in points allowed, and #1 defense in yards allowed. Montana, Craig, Rice, Clark, Haley, Lott. That team was phenomenal. Inexplicably got manhandled in the divisional round by Minnesota, however.

3. 1990 Bills. 13-3. #1 ranked offense. #6 ranked defense (points). Kelly, Thomas, Reed, Bruce Smith, et al. Lost the Super Bowl by the slimmest of margins. They'd go on to appear in three more straight SBs, an NFL record.

4. 2001 Rams. 14-2, #1 offense, #3 ranked defense (yards). Juggernaut. They'd already beaten NE earlier in the year. They had the MVP in Warner. Faulk. Holt. Bruce. Two years prior they'd won the Super Bowl.

5. 1985 Bears. 14-2, #1 defense (again), even though their offense wasn't great (13th in points, 7th in yards), but it was solid. Coming off their incredible SB-winning season the year before, they were still a wagon. Lost to a really good Redskins team in the divisional round.

6. 1968 Colts. 13-1, #2 offense, #1 defense. Lost to the Jets in SB 3. They were dominant, having gone 11-1 the previous year. Two years from then they'd win the Super Bowl against Dallas.


I'll stop there. Who else ya got?
You mean 86 Bears. The 85 Bears beat the Pats.

edit: too slow.
 

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Rarely discussed are the 2009 Colts. After winning their last 9 regular season games in 2008, the 2009 team opened with another 14 straight and looked poised to repeat the Pats' perfect regular season feat until Jim Caldwell mysteriously stopped trying to win games. And then it took Sean Payton's unorthodox onside kick to turn the tide of the SB against them.

They weren't world-beaters in terms of point differential, and there were brutal postseason losses sandwiched around the regular season success. So, they're definitely not on the short list of this discussion. But it's sort of chilling and surprising to remember that those guys won 23 straight in the regular season.

Edit: 9 straight in '08, not 8.
 

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Rarely discussed are the 2009 Colts. After winning their last 9 regular season games in 2008, the 2009 team opened with another 14 straight and looked poised to repeat the Pats' perfect regular season feat until Jim Caldwell mysteriously stopped trying to win games. And then it took Sean Payton's unorthodox onside kick to turn the tide of the SB against them.

They weren't world-beaters in terms of point differential, and there were brutal postseason losses sandwiched around the regular season success. So, they're definitely not on the short list of this discussion. But it's sort of chilling and surprising to remember that those guys won 23 straight in the regular season.

Edit: 9 straight in '08, not 8.
I almost brought them up, but ultimately didn’t as their pythag was that of a 10.8 win team. Look at their wins
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Half their wins were by under a TD. They were more lucky than great. For instance would you have even brought them up if the Pats had converted 4th and 2?
 

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Rarely discussed are the 2009 Colts. After winning their last 9 regular season games in 2008, the 2009 team opened with another 14 straight and looked poised to repeat the Pats' perfect regular season feat until Jim Caldwell mysteriously stopped trying to win games. And then it took Sean Payton's unorthodox onside kick to turn the tide of the SB against them.

They weren't world-beaters in terms of point differential, and there were brutal postseason losses sandwiched around the regular season success. So, they're definitely not on the short list of this discussion. But it's sort of chilling and surprising to remember that those guys won 23 straight in the regular season.

Edit: 9 straight in '08, not 8.
Speaking of Manning led teams, the 2013 Broncos were really good. 13-3 regular season, 606 points scored. Manning in his 5th MVP year. Good defense. And then they got stomped by the Seahawks.
 

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I almost brought them up, but ultimately didn’t as their pythag was that of a 10.8 win team. Look at their wins
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Half their wins were by under a TD. They were more lucky than great. For instance would you have even brought them up if the Pats had converted 4th and 2?
Yeah, fair. They're very 72 Dolphins-esque.
 

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As far as I can tell, these are all the teams with 15+ SRS to not win it all:

68 Colts (pre-merger, obviously)
69-70 Vikings
76 Steelers
07 Pats
10 Pats
19 Ravens

The 98 Vikings just missed at 14.9. Of course, it's a super hard bar to clear as only three champions (85 Bears, 91 Redskins, 96 Packers) have done it.
 

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As far as I can tell, these are all the teams with 15+ SRS to not win it all:

68 Colts (pre-merger, obviously)
69-70 Vikings
76 Steelers
07 Pats
10 Pats
19 Ravens

The 98 Vikings just missed at 14.9. Of course, it's a super hard bar to clear as only three champions (85 Bears, 91 Redskins, 96 Packers) have done it.
This is the second time the 2010 Pats have been mentioned. The offense was unwordly - I think their 2nd best all time to 2007 - and they beat a very good slate of opponents. But ultimately that D just wasn’t very good. 8th in points but 25th in yardage - the key for that team was a 38:10 turnover differential. The D gave up more yards than the offense gained!
 

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This is the second time the 2010 Pats have been mentioned. The offense was unwordly - I think their 2nd best all time to 2007 - and they beat a very good slate of opponents. But ultimately that D just wasn’t very good. 8th in points but 25th in yardage - the key for that team was a 38:10 turnover differential. The D gave up more yards than the offense gained!
I mentioned them before since it's incredible how similar they are to the 19 Ravens. Unanimous MVPs, basically identical point differential/SRS, only two losses fairly early and then shocking upsets in the divisional round.
 

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This is the second time the 2010 Pats have been mentioned. The offense was unwordly - I think their 2nd best all time to 2007 - and they beat a very good slate of opponents. But ultimately that D just wasn’t very good. 8th in points but 25th in yardage - the key for that team was a 38:10 turnover differential. The D gave up more yards than the offense gained!
The 2011 Packers were another team like this. 15-1 with MVP Rodgers and the best offense in the league, but IIRC set a record for yards allowed on D. Turned the ball over 4 times against a lucky Giants squad and got bounced in the divisional.
 

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I mentioned them before since it's incredible how similar they are to the 19 Ravens. Unanimous MVPs, basically identical point differential/SRS, only two losses fairly early and then shocking upsets in the divisional round.
Oh I totally get it, and even 10 years later the loss still feels shocking, but you can see why/how it happened.
 

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Probably a reach, but the '76 Pats(all the other obvious ones have already been taken). 26.9 PF(pre-liberalized passing rues). 16.9 PA. Beat the Steelers in the regular season. Blasted the Raiders in the regular season. Struggled with Miami, but 11-3 overall. They don't get absolutely rogered by the officials in the playoff game against Oakland, and I like their chances the following week against a very beat up Pittsburgh offense. And I think they would have beaten Minnesota fairly handily in the super bowl.
 

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The 2011 Packers were another team like this. 15-1 with MVP Rodgers and the best offense in the league, but IIRC set a record for yards allowed on D. Turned the ball over 4 times against a lucky Giants squad and got bounced in the divisional.
A 2011 Pats vs Packers would have probably been the record for best combined offenses and worst combined defenses to make a Super Bowl. Of course Gronk was hurt so it wouldn’t have played out that way but those two teams at peak health would have been a total shootout.
 

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2011 Green Bay Packers.

They were the defending champions, were 15-1, best Packers record ever, third best offense statistically in NFL history up until that time.

And they lost to Eli and the fucking Giants 37-20 in the playoffs.

And we all know what happened after that.....................

Mother of God do I hate that Giants team; two horseshoe up their asses Super Bowl runs with Eli, and they won a grand total of zero playoff games outside of those two runs, so that stooge gets into the HOF as a result.

NM; Super Nomario beat me to it.

But I still hate the Giants.
 

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2011 Green Bay Packers.

They were the defending champions, were 15-1, best Packers record ever, third best offense statistically in NFL history up until that time.

And they lost to Eli and the fucking Giants 37-20 in the playoffs.

And we all know what happened after that.....................

Mother of God do I hate that Giants team; two horseshoe up their asses Super Bowl runs with Eli, and they won a grand total of zero playoff games outside of those two runs, so that stooge gets into the HOF as a result.

NM; Super Nomario beat me to it.

But I still hate the Giants.
Speaking of the Giants, the 2008 Giants were like 11-1 before Plaxico nearly shot his nuts off. They then lost 3 of 4 to end the regular season and lost at home to the Eagles in the playoffs. This was a really good team that thankfully fell apart,
 

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The 2005 colts team that was really good. Started 13-0, lost to San Diego in week 14 and rested their starters for week 15 and 16 to finish 14-2. Even with the final 2 weeks, finished 2nd in scoring offense and scoring defense.

Proceeded lose the to the Steelers after basically having 3 weeks off. Probably shouldn’t have had that much rest. They should have been a Super Bowl champions that year.
 

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Speaking of the Giants, the 2008 Giants were like 11-1 before Plaxico nearly shot his nuts off. They then lost 3 of 4 to end the regular season and lost at home to the Eagles in the playoffs. This was a really good team that thankfully fell apart,
This forum needs a "like" feature for posts.

That playoff loss to the Eagles is in my top 5 most enjoyable opponents playoff losses.
 

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The 2005 colts team that was really good. Started 13-0, lost to San Diego in week 14 and rested their starters for week 15 and 16 to finish 14-2. Even with the final 2 weeks, finished 2nd in scoring offense and scoring defense.

Proceeded lose the to the Steelers after basically having 3 weeks off. Probably shouldn’t have had that much rest. They should have been a Super Bowl champions that year.
That Steelers loss was mind boggling, Vanderjerk had a chance to tie it at the end if I am not mistaken and was "wide right"........by about 20 yards.

That playoff loss and the one to the Chargers in 2007 when their back up beat them are two all time gag jobs by that team.
 

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My football watching for the last 20 years or so is very Pats centric and I don't follow the league much at all so my thoughts are all Pats related.
The 2001 Rams were very good, I didn't think the Pats had a prayer going into the game, but they probably deserve a place on this list.

Also the 2014 Seahawks. I don't think the rest of the teams the Pats beat were worthy of the list.
 

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That Steelers loss was mind boggling, Vanderjerk had a chance to tie it at the end if I am not mistaken and was "wide right"........by about 20 yards.

That playoff loss and the one to the Chargers in 2007 when their back up beat them are two all time gag jobs by that team.
After the Steelers had the ball on the goal line to ice it, Bettis fumbled and Ben saved a TD with a prayer shoestring tackle. My god, did that Steeler team have a horseshoe (no pun intended?) up their ass.
 
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That Steelers loss was mind boggling, Vanderjerk had a chance to tie it at the end if I am not mistaken and was "wide right"........by about 20 yards.
Often overlooked following the Bettis goal line fumble, the Colts offense went four and out in what appeared to be a do or die situation. The Colts had way too many drives where they didn’t move the ball in that game.

Also, considering how conservative Cowher’s offenses were, allowing Big Ben to throw early in the game gave them an early double digit lead.
 

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2004 Steelers another paper tiger type of one seed. 1st in points allowed but only 11th in points. Pythag of 11.5-4.5. They only barely escaped the Jets 20-17 in the divisional. Doug Brien missed not one but two field goals in the last 2 minutes for the Jets. If one of those is good maybe we don’t even think about that Steelers team.
 

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By DVOA, the clear leaders in this category are the 2007 Pats, the 1987 49ers, and the 2010 Pats. Then 2019 Baltimore and (surprisingly) the 1995 49ers. The 95 Niners were only 11-5 but lost 5 games by a combined 15 points while finishing 1st in scoring offense and second in defense.

I think that's all the teams with regular season DVOA >40% that didn't win the Super Bowl.
 

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‘87 Niners are a little strange to evaluate because it was a strike year that had scab players for 3 games. On the other hand, Jerry Rice caught 22 TDs in 12 games and they won the next two titles (and the Giants needed a minor miracle to prevent the third).
 

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After the Steelers had the ball on the goal line to ice it, Bettis fumbled and Ben saved a TD with a prayer shoestring tackle. My god, did that Steeler team have a horseshoe (no pun intended?) up their ass.
Was that the year the Steelers played Seattle in the Super Bowl?

What a shitty Super Bowl that was; Roethlisberger was credited with a TD on the goal line when his helmet crossed the line but the ball clearly did not.

Horseshoe is right.

Every trip to the SB for that team (seahawks/packers/cardinals) involved them not going through New England to get there, the Patriots beat them three times in the AFCCG, twice on the road, also beat them on their way to the Super Bowl vs Green Bay as well.

They beat the Patriots at home 7-6 in 1998 but lost the AFCCG at home to Denver.
 

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2004 Steelers another paper tiger type of one seed. 1st in points allowed but only 11th in points. Pythag of 11.5-4.5. They only barely escaped the Jets 20-17 in the divisional. Doug Brien missed not one but two field goals in the last 2 minutes for the Jets. If one of those is good maybe we don’t even think about that Steelers team.
What a nutpunch loss that was for the Jets; had the Jets won, New England would have hosted them in the AFCCG.

They had a similar nutpunch loss to the Browns in Cleveland, blew a big lead in that game, I think that was the year the Browns lost in "the drive" AFCCG to Denver............or maybe it was the year they lost in "the fumble" AFCCG to Denver.

Cleveland is just as cursed as the Bills and Jets are.

The only way that franchise ended up winning not one but two Super Bowls was to get out of Cleveland and move to Baltimore.

I have a customer who's a diehard Ravens fan, I told him you're really a Browns fan then.

He seemed "confused."
 

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Was that the year the Steelers played Seattle in the Super Bowl?

What a shitty Super Bowl that was; Roethlisberger was credited with a TD on the goal line when his helmet crossed the line but the ball clearly did not.

Horseshoe is right.

Every trip to the SB for that team (seahawks/packers/cardinals) involved them not going through New England to get there, the Patriots beat them three times in the AFCCG, twice on the road, also beat them on their way to the Super Bowl vs Green Bay as well.

They beat the Patriots at home 7-6 in 1998 but lost the AFCCG at home to Denver.
Yes. They shredded Palmer’s knee on the second play of the game against the Bengals, which was a 66-yard completion to Chris Henry (RIP) who dislocated his shoulder on the play. Then they got the Colts game (they certainly outplayed them but if Ben doesn’t make that miracle tackle they lose), the Plummer Broncos in the AFCCG and then that joke of a Super Bowl.
 

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The 2006 Chargers were, um, pretty lights out. 14-2, first in scoring, seventh in points allowed.

Here’s one you don’t hear mentioned much: 1999 Jags. 14-2 with a pythag of 12.9, 6th in points but first in points allowed. They absolutely torched Miami 62-7 in the divisional, but lost to the Titans in the AFCCG.
I think about that Jags team occasionally, much more than I should considering. Against all non-Tennessee opponents, (including playoffs) they were 15-0 with an average margin of victory of 17.6 points per game. Against Tennessee, they were 0-3 with an average margin of defeat of 15.7 points per game. I don't know why, that always fascinated me.
 

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Yes. They shredded Palmer’s knee on the second play of the game against the Bengals, which was a 66-yard completion to Chris Henry (RIP) who dislocated his shoulder on the play. Then they got the Colts game (they certainly outplayed them but if Ben doesn’t make that miracle tackle they lose), the Plummer Broncos in the AFCCG and then that joke of a Super Bowl.
What a God awful Super Bowl that was.
 

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I think about that Jags team occasionally, much more than I should considering. Against all non-Tennessee opponents, (including playoffs) they were 15-0 with an average margin of victory of 17.6 points per game. Against Tennessee, they were 0-3 with an average margin of defeat of 15.7 points per game. I don't know why, that always fascinated me.
Great stat.
 

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I know a large number of members here have watched the Man in the Arena episode about the Scottish game, but as I've told several of you via PM's, I just can't.

I haven't watched a single highlight of that game; never have, never will.

I can deal with other losses; 1975 WS, 1978 playoff game, 2003 ALCS, too many men on the ice vs Montreal, Stanley Cup losses to Montreal, the Oilers, Blackhaws, even the 'Blues, playoff losses to the Colts in the 2006 AFCCG, Ravens in AFCCG, Broncos in two AFCCG's, Super Bowl loss to the Eagles and the Giants in 2012.

But the Scottish game; never, ever going to get over that one, more so because of the historic significance of it, 19-0, perfect season, blah blah blah and those assholes pissed all over it with that horseshoe up their asses final drive to win it.

Disgusting.

And it gets mentioned over and over and over and over and over and over; commercials ("I would have hit him in the numbers"), in umpteen broadcasts of games, on and on.

I blame this all on that fucking idiot Rex Ryan and his idiotic time out in the Ravens game; 15-1 and losing a SB I can handle, no problem.

But 16-0, no can do.

That team wins the dubious crown as greatest team NOT to win a Super Bowl.
 

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For sure SB42 is the one game I’d like to have back, and I’d trade almost any of our other SB wins for that one in a heartbeat.

As far as talk about lousy Super Bowls goes, just think about this: in the BB/TB era, the Pats played in 9 SBs, and every single one of them qualified as a pretty great game. Even SB53 was tense and close and it took a late pick and a game sealing drive against a great defense to finally seal it in the last minute.
 
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2012 Pats were one of the best teams I've seen. Really there's a different reality where the 2010+ teams are a bit more healthy and win considerably more than they already did. If Gronk never gets the shitty Sergio Brown injury against the Texans, the Pats win in 2012. They were a better team than the Ravens but the Ravens matched up well with them.
 

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For sure SB42 is the one game I’d like to ah e back, and I’d trade almost any of our other SB wins for that one in a heartbeat.
I think the only ones I would trade without much thought would be the Eagles SB and second Rams SB. I think I love all the others too much.
 

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The Scottish Game hurts a whole lot less now that they added three more rings to the collection. I was at the game, though, and it was fucking horrendous. At least if I was at home I could have immediately shut the TV off. I was forced to deal with celebrating, obnoxious Giants fans for the 2+ hours it took us to get back to our hotel after the game. Fucking torture.

But, that game as well as the next Giants Super Bowl made Seattle so much sweeter. It worked out the way it was supposed to work out. They went on to have an entire separate dynasty after a game that would have ruined most franchises.

Plus let's be honest, they should never have lost to that Giants team, but they had no business winning the Seattle or Atlanta games, not to mention the epic upset of the Rams, and the roller coaster game against the Panthers that they would definitely have lost if it went into OT. 6-3 is probably the right record for them in Super Bowls, all things considered.

Still, fuck the Scottish Game.
 

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1967 Colts. 11-1-2. didn't even make the playoffs, lol. That was the first year the NFL did that 4 division 2 conference arrangement for 3 years, 67-69. They tied the Rams for first in the Coastal division of the west, but the Rams won the tiebreaker. (Yes Baltimore was in the Western conference then). The veteran Packers team at 9-4-1 won their 2nd straight Super Bowl. Many of the semi-aging Packers said they were scared of the Colts and they could have beaten them. Can you imagine a healthy Johnny Unitas for a full year, instead of Earl Morrall? Also until 1974 they alternated home field which was dumb so you could have a better record and a better team and not have home field. 1976 Steelers. Started 1-4 and then gave up like 38 points............THE REST OF THE YEAR!!!!!. And finished 10-4. They beat a good Colts team big something like 42-17, but lost both Harris and Bleier to injuries and lost to the Raiders in the title game. That game in Baltimore was when 20 minutes after the game a small plane crashed into the top of Memorial Stadium. No one was killed I don't think, but many believed had the Colts won their would have been fans mingling and celebrating and possible casualties. A few Steelers players like Swann and Lambert say that was their best team. My two honorable mentions are the 69 Vikings and the 71 Chiefs. Jan Stenerud probably the best kicker in the league missed a chip shot of 31 yards at the end of regulation. Most NFL writers and broadcasters thought the Chiefs were better then the Fins and as good if not better then the 69 team that won it all.
 
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dont foget the 2012 broncos had homefield if not for rahim the dream moore misplaying flacco hail mary they likey win the super bowl and then the pats likey win it in 14-15-16