That is true, but Torre also proved to be a good personality fit for them, more than Buck was.Torre lucked into the team he got.
Eventually that wore off, but the initial success was...impressive.
That is true, but Torre also proved to be a good personality fit for them, more than Buck was.Torre lucked into the team he got.
So will the lucky SOB who get to replace Joe G.Torre lucked into the team he got.
So does Girardi go to Washington?
My co-host on Sports & Sorts wants Kapler. I think this is a dumb move on the part of the Yankees, so hooray! Now fire/don't rehire Cashman and we're in business!You don't deserve that beautiful man.
I literally have no idea who the Yankees target here.
There's no way Washington pays Girardi after refusing to pay Dusty (after initially refusing to pay Bud Black)So does Girardi go to Washington?
Quoting this so I have it in my history next time someone says "Only Boston kills people on their way out of town!!"Here comes the anonymous sources with their criticisms of Joe Girardi.
The Yankees have long been frustrated with Joe Girardi's failure to apply a more human touch to the job. Hurt him a lot.
Wait--"gal"? As manager?Heyman says they want an analytical guy/gal.
I was trying to be inclusive and not like that misogynistic Heyman who automatically rules out have the population of the US.Wait--"gal"? As manager?
Wait--"gal"? As manager?
Don't be a misogynist. Not a good look. Women who are qualified should get a shot as well.Wait--"gal"? As manager?
Fair point. The Yankees only do once every 10 or 12 years or so though.Quoting this so I have it in my history next time someone says "Only Boston kills people on their way out of town!!"
It’s not being a misogynist to say that a woman won’t be getting the Yankees job it’s being realistic.Don't be a misogynist. Not a good look. Women who are qualified should get a shot as well.
The Nats apparently considered him back in 2006 after his firing from the Marlins, when Frank Robinson left the Nats. Even then the Lerners were unwilling to pony up what it took. And to be fair, Girardi was waiting on the Yankee job which came open the following year. This was posted this morning before the news broke about Girardi.So does Girardi go to Washington?
In pursuing their first skipper, the man who would be entrusted with keeping spirits up during a massive rebuilding process, they showed their disregard for the position. Jim Bowden, the general manager at the time, has said since that the Lerners wouldn’t pay what it cost to employ Girardi, so the club moved on to Manny Acta. Girardi, too, knew Torre was nearing the end of his time with the Yankees, for whom he served as a World Series-winning catcher in 1996. So spending time with his family lasted only the 2007 season, and then Girardi took Torre’s old job.
It’s not realistic until WE start thinking it IS realistic.It’s not being a misogynist to say that a woman won’t be getting the Yankees job it’s being realistic.
ARod is actually really well liked by the younger players.I think Phil Jackson would bring both a NYC connection and a championship patina to the job.
Him or Arod.
The Nats are in a box, and I'll be ordering the popcorn because although I root for them in the NL, they have handled the manager position in an awful way.The Nats apparently considered him back in 2006 after his firing from the Marlins, when Frank Robinson left the Nats. Even then the Lerners were unwilling to pony up what it took. And to be fair, Girardi was waiting on the Yankee job which came open the following year. This was posted this morning before the news broke about Girardi.
Former great players don’t make good managers, and he’s also rich so why take on the headache? Maybe you were just sayin’ he is well liked though. The guy does continue to amaze as an analyst in his post season gigs. Maybe he should throw his hat in the ring? But he won’t.ARod is actually really well liked by the younger players.
That's an interesting point. With respect to NYY and Boston, I think some commonality might be that both teams are anchored by really young players. Maybe in both cases, management is making the hard choice to look forward as to how best to maximize that youth, as a separate consideration from the team's success this year. Maybe its a cousin of getting rid of a player a year too soon rather than a year too late.In all seriousness, three teams who won 90+ games fired their managers this year. Are expectations just generally too high around the league? I mean, if it ain't broke (or broke just a little bit with a chance to get into the tournament every year)...
Sounds plausible. If true, the Yankees did what they had to do.EDIT -- the word here is that one of Cashman and Giradi had to go because they tired of each other, and the Yanks chose Cashman. Is that valid?
ARod is too busy with his Shark Tank gig now.Please no. I would rather give ARod a chance.
OK you can pretend that a woman has a chance of being named manager of the Yankees, I'm fine with that.It’s not realistic until WE start thinking it IS realistic.
Don’t be a part of the problem, be a part of the solution.
It’s not being a misogynist to say that a woman won’t be getting the Yankees job it’s being realistic.
Oh my goodness gracious does someone need their sarcasm meter checked.OK you can pretend that a woman has a chance of being named manager of the Yankees, I'm fine with that.
Sorry I'll stop derailing the thread now.
Did the Yanks also maddeningly run into an infinite number of outs on the basepaths?Sounds like the same thing that got Farrell was the thing that got Girardi: an inability to personally connect with his players.
Difference is that BOS had a bunch of young guys underperform from last year, and the MFYs, well, didn't.That's an interesting point. With respect to NYY and Boston, I think some commonality might be that both teams are anchored by really young players. Maybe in both cases, management is making the hard choice to look forward as to how best to maximize that youth, as a separate consideration from the team's success this year. Maybe its a cousin of getting rid of a player a year too soon rather than a year too late.
No, but Girardi did kinda call out Sanchez a few weeks ago in public.Did the Yanks also maddeningly run into an infinite number of outs on the basepaths?
The have-not's need not apply.I was trying to be inclusive and not like that misogynistic Heyman who automatically rules out have the population of the US.
I’m not, but thanks for going there. I’m asking if that’s what he actually said. And why I put “gal” in quotation marks.Don't be a misogynist. Not a good look. Women who are qualified should get a shot as well.
This goes right up there with the Timberlake-Jackson planned Nipplegate performance being sexual harassment as contenders for Hot Take of the WeekDon't be a misogynist. Not a good look. Women who are qualified should get a shot as well.
This may be true, but I have heard Buck and GM Dan Duquette absolutely hate each other.Good luck trying to pry Buck out of Baltimore a year early if that's the goal. Angelos makes ISIS look reasonable.
Or multiple people even, looking forward to seeing who they get.So who's Cashman's guy?
He must have had someone in mind before axing Joe.
For sure. He was horrible in Atlanta and a God in NY. He was in the right place at the right time.Torre lucked into the team he got.
Horrible in St. Louis too.For sure. He was horrible in Atlanta and a God in NY. He was in the right place at the right time.
I don't follow the Y-game threads here, but was there discussion among Y-fans here about Joe's abilities as manager or serious speculation that he was going to be fired? My sense from living in metro NYC was that most Y-fans liked the guy.or as much as fans like managersJust seeing this and seeing that it was Cashman's call, I'm totally on board, as Cashman can do no wrong recently.
Or multiple people even, looking forward to seeing who they get.