Game 1 Philly, Silver Linings

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Don’t worry you won’t have to coach them for long, they’re basically illegal in high school now (only legal by lineman and only if it’s their very first move after the snap) and will be in the NCAA in the next 5-10 years.
I am not 100 percent sure that that is the case in NJ, and I will certainly double check tomorrow, but I would jump for joy if it is. It will take nothing away from the game to remove it, and it will take a move that I think is dangerous to kids’ legs, heads, ankles and necks out of the sport.
 

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Rodgers probably done, Bills already have a divisional loss, not looking too bad all things considered. Get after Tua next week.
 
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Rodgers probably done, Bills already have a divisional loss, things aren’t looking too bad all things considered. Get after Tua next week.
That's the thing about the NFL: hinges so much on the injury luck. Miami has not been good recently handling it's prosperity either.
 

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I can't say I disagree with any of the aforementioned silver linings. The rookies especially. A guy only mentioned a time or two that I thought impressed in limited reps was Gesicki. He looked athletic in the open field. Hopefully, he can eventually be a threat in the red zone also.

I think the success of this team, as with most (all?), will depend on their red zone efficiency and turnover ratio.

Keion is a dawg, as Prime says.
 

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The intent comes in where it is described as a block. If someone slips and falls, in that moment they are not blocking.....unless they make a clear move during that fall to try and make a block. It's one of those weird football things. As I said up thread, this is a player safety issue and it wouldn't be obvious in the moment in most cases.
In the first replay, I thought that even though the OL tripped, he consciously continued going toward the defender to try to "finish the play." I doubt his intent was to go low, but in the moment that's all his tripped self would allow.
 

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In the first replay, I thought that even though the OL tripped, he consciously continued going toward the defender to try to "finish the play." I doubt his intent was to go low, but in the moment that's all his tripped self would allow.
Agree - so I thought the call was good. The offense should not be allowed to gain an advantage from that.
 

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I thought a major silver lining was the play of Kendrick Bourne. Yes there was a pass (or two...can't remember) he didn't catch that he could/should have caught. But last year for whatever reason he was in the doghouse, and I had thought that after his 2021 season, he would have a breakout year in 2022. But he saw the field much less and was much less involved in the game plan, for reasons I am unaware of. Just seemed weird. I thought he was one of their only true playmakers, but you can't be a playmaker if you don't play. (not that he didn't play at ALL; just way way less than I thought he should have)

So he had 11 targets, 6 receptions, 64 yards, and 2 td. He's not an elite WR - nowhere near the Jefferson/Chase/Brown/Diggs/et al group, but he IS a playmaker. And it was really good to see him be a main part of the offense. Clearly he has ability and he showed it on Sunday.
 

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Good read. I'll admit to kind of forgetting that Jon Jones is a really good corner. And is actually opposite to Gonzalez. I really want to call him C6 or CG6. Kid needs a nickname.
 

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Yeah that was an absolute dime in a big spot. Would have taken a nice, professional catch to make, but not a spectacular one. I won't say Bourne *SHOULD* have caught it, but......probably.
 

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This throw looked even better on the all-22 - such a shame that the catch wasn't made.

View: https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1701597248981971311
I talked about that throw and non-catch repeatedly yesterday around here. Fucking Tony Romo was on the broadcast making it sound like Mac threw an eephus pitch to Bourne, and that's why he didn't make the catch. In reality, it was another example of Mac making a play and not being helped when it mattered most. This was the 2nd to last drive of the game, following a sack and would have been first down at about the 23 yard line. Instead, the took the awful DoG penalty after that, and then the Henry drop, which in reality didn't end up mattering much, he was short of the sticks, etc.

But let's compare that to this catch:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz8LZE05lJ0


NFL receivers make catches like this all the time. I think we've had so many years of watching these balls fall incomplete that we're blaming the QB for them because they're "hard." Then we turn around and say Mac can't win the big game, well Mac did his job (and he did it again on the next series when he hit Boutte on 4th down, would have given the Pats 1st and goal, but Boutte couldn't get his feet down).

Mac has enough in the tank, and more importantly IMO, in his brain to win games. But he can't do it alone.
 

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That's the sort of non-catch that I won't really count against Bourne as a negative play, but certainly Mac more than did his job there and didn't get any help from him. That's a big boy throw against pressure, like the anticipation and mostly the aggressiveness. That's what wins games.
 

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That's the sort of non-catch that I won't really count against Bourne as a negative play, but certainly Mac more than did his job there and didn't get any help from him. That's a big boy throw against pressure, like the anticipation and mostly the aggressiveness. That's what wins games.
Looking at the all-22, Bourne wasn't even on the screen when the ball was thrown.. That is an amazing amount of trust/anticipation.
 

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Miles Bryant made some plays. Bentley and Tavai stuffed that running game.

Philly could not cover the TEs and RBs, Mac was 21-25 targeting the backs and TEs.
 

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I'm completely stunned at the Giants/Cowboys graph, but then again there's the possibility there were 52 minutes of garbage time in that game.
Any chart that purports to show how badly your team got beaten that doesn't have to leave the giants off to avoid skewing the scale is of dubious merit. For those who didn't see the game, the Giants played the first quarter about as well as the Pats did, and then proceeded to play the rest of the game just as badly. Definitely one of the most one-sided games I can remember watching and, you know, I'm a Pats fan.
 

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Any chart that purports to show how badly your team got beaten that doesn't have to leave the giants off to avoid skewing the scale is of dubious merit. For those who didn't see the game, the Giants played the first quarter about as well as the Pats did, and then proceeded to play the rest of the game just as badly. Definitely one of the most one-sided games I can remember watching and, you know, I'm a Pats fan.
That game was in “garbage time” (e.g. Dallas win probability >95%) one minute into the second quarter, so everything that happened after 19-0 is excluded from the data on that chart. Granted, that first 16 minutes seemed worse that the chart suggests, but that partly explains it.
 

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I think it's a volume thing. The Giants ran 21 plays in the first quarter to 9 for Dallas, then it was garbage time. Not sure how success is defined, but given the short time frame of competitiveness the first Giants drive was decent until the end and probably skews the chart.
 

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PFF's top 10 patriots week 1:

Offense:
10. Douglas
9. Gesicki
8. Bourne
7. Stevenson
6. Trent Brown
5. Andrews
4. Henry
3. Mac Jones
2. Montgomery
1. Pharoh Brown

Defense:
10. Mapu
9. Guy
8. Phillips
7. Keion White
6. Bryant
5. Tavai
4. Uche
3. Mills
2. Peppers
1. Barmore

No Judon or Gonzalez biggest surprises to me (non Pharoh Brown category).





https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/lists/patriots-top-10-offensive-players-week-1-pff-grades/

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/lists/patriots-top-10-defensive-players-week-1-pff-grades/
 

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PFF's top 10 patriots week 1:

Offense:
10. Douglas
9. Gesicki
8. Bourne
7. Stevenson
6. Trent Brown
5. Andrews
4. Henry
3. Mac Jones
2. Montgomery
1. Pharoh Brown

Defense:
10. Mapu
9. Guy
8. Phillips
7. Keion White
6. Bryant
5. Tavai
4. Uche
3. Mills
2. Peppers
1. Barmore

No Judon or Gonzalez biggest surprises to me (non Pharoh Brown category).





https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/lists/patriots-top-10-offensive-players-week-1-pff-grades/

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/lists/patriots-top-10-defensive-players-week-1-pff-grades/
Pharaoh Brown played all of 6 snaps on offense.