Free Agency Game Thread
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Yeah, it just depends what happens with the other backs. Gillislee is not expensive so that obviously works in his favor. On the other hand, the coaching staff really seemed to lose faith in him last year. He got six carries after Week 8.
Taylor had a 90 rating last season, and 3.5 to 1 TD/INT ratio. It would be pretty impressive if a rookie QB did that.
I get we all loved his postseason performance, but DA isn't a major contributor. Butler and Solder, I'll grant you but neither was stellar last season. Lewis...yeah. That hurts, but hopefully White can play the regular season like it's the postseason.
Alright, you can downgrade them to 'contributors' and it's still a hole left with not a lot of money to fill. Let's hope we hit big this draft.
Individually one can't complain too vociferously about not re-upping Dola, Lewis or Solder, as all seem to be getting top of the market dollars, and that's not the Patriot Way. But in the aggregate this clearly makes the offense more reliant on Jules returning healthy, replacing Lewis skills, and finding blind-side protection for the family jewels.
And Gronk appears to be making some noise about getting a new contract that more fully recognizes his unique abilities, or maybe retiring.
Now to the point, was our favorite OC fully aware of future roster construction philosophy when he decided to make a career altering decision? Or if he didn't know, would events of the past 24 hours, have an impact of his decison making. And might he be slighlty annoyed?
And Gronk appears to be making some noise about getting a new contract that more fully recognizes his unique abilities, or maybe retiring.
Now to the point, was our favorite OC fully aware of future roster construction philosophy when he decided to make a career altering decision? Or if he didn't know, would events of the past 24 hours, have an impact of his decison making. And might he be slighlty annoyed?
You joke but this is a team trending downward. I mean, they went from winning two Super Bowls to not winning one. Next year they only may make the AFCCG.
Going at it in reverse, it seems likely that BB thinks Cannon can play LT as well as he played RT. This would be consistent with BB liking Cannon much more than anyone early on, and having his faith rewarded.
Thuney played every snap as a rookie. I guess they're looking for that at RT; or they think the RT is already on the roster.
Or maybe Brady's thumb is perma-screwed, he'll have to throw lefty, and Cannon at RT is the answer.
What one of these guys would McDaniels think was a sure thing or even likely to come back?
Right. And it's not like McDaniels was ever gone. He was involved in every discussion all season. He certainly had an idea of what the plan was.
Sure things? Don't know. But I wonder what level of discussion took place at higher levels after the SB, that led to Josh feeling better about the Pats OC job than a HC job, (Colts, Giants, or?). But his job as Pats OC certainly got more challenging over the past day.
Are the Pats interested in McCarron as purely a backup, or developing him as the next starter? Has that ship sailed for him?
It's an evergreen post but you generally need to draft/sign UDFAs at a very high level over a four year period to win a superbowl--it's the only way you're going to have the talent. If they don't have a stellar draft they'd really need to have exceptional contributions from the years two through four guys including UDFAs.
It's not possible that they view Cole Croston as a passable option at LT, is it?
Everyone is leaving. Not for the money though - it's because they hate their CB sitting, SB losing coach.
I wish the media that ripped the trade would at least acknowledge the economics of the situation.
If anyone here thinks the Pats - with a healthy Brady - won't be a top flight team next year they're deluded. This team is gonna be excellent.
Take Patrick Robinson off the board as a Patriots target. He's headed back to New Orleans on a 4-year deal.
I agree with this 100%. As long as Brady is healthy the Pats should at least win the AFC East.
Also, no way Jimmy was going to play for peanuts or sit another year. No shame in not being able to beat out Brady.
Linked to Pats on DC sports radio in last hour. Lots of interest in him reported. Meds probably fine. Need to get squared away on PEDa
Bedard said on F&M that the Patriots have offered an extension to Brady but Brady is holding it up. He says that Brady is in no rush to help out the team.
The crazy thing about the Garoppolo franchise tag issue that no one talks about is that they would have to cut some players to even fit that under the cap, and then they wouldn't be able to sign anybody if a trade didn't occur before today.
All the talking heads say is you tag him to trade him, but that window would've been very short. The franchise tag window was February 20th to March 6th, and free agency starts March 14th with the new league year. Who's to say they could have gotten more than the 43rd pick when trying to trade the guy in as little as a week with a $21.268 million price tag (according to Miguel, they have 19.725 in space so they'd need to cut 1.5 million just to get back to zero cap space).
Oh, and what if he went and signed the tender like Jarvis Landry did? That would not be too attractive to an acquiring team looking to spread the money of an extension.
All the talking heads say is you tag him to trade him, but that window would've been very short. The franchise tag window was February 20th to March 6th, and free agency starts March 14th with the new league year. Who's to say they could have gotten more than the 43rd pick when trying to trade the guy in as little as a week with a $21.268 million price tag (according to Miguel, they have 19.725 in space so they'd need to cut 1.5 million just to get back to zero cap space).
Oh, and what if he went and signed the tender like Jarvis Landry did? That would not be too attractive to an acquiring team looking to spread the money of an extension.
No way the Pats were offering that amount of dough. Could be a very good signing for the Bills.
And I’m sure F and M are delighted. Their next point will be that Brady is trying to replace Bill with Josh.
It’s possible Bedard is right, but I need proof on this one.
SI, yahoo, or profootball.com had a good piece on the idea that in recent years, ever escalating caps coupled with teams getting better at keeping their own guys that they really like with early extensions (without completely destroying their cap all the time) have made it so less and less talent actually makes it to free agency now.
Not sure how much I buy it, but I think there is something there.
I'm not sure i buy it much either, or at least i don't buy it as a sustainable model. If these teams get out in front of the market and extend top players early, only to have lesser players cash in, won't those top players begin to look around and think "why the hell would i negotiate early?"
Oh... just as a reminder for everyone that isn't up on the details, since it's a new league year, we are on the Top 51 (or is it 50?) Contracts rule for figuring out Cap liability.
It doesn't switch to actual roster cap until officially after the final cutdown deadline (if i recall correctly).
It doesn't switch to actual roster cap until officially after the final cutdown deadline (if i recall correctly).
Yea I mean he is probably trying to ensure that he makes every last dollar on that last big money contract. Its not like winning has ever been important to the guy. And like all players when you get into your 30s you start worrying about your future and finances. This makes perfect sense. Why would he want to help out the team to allow them to put supplemental players around him for a last run or two. Tom is thinking about his future.
The big recent change I see is the ability for teams to carry unused cap space into the following year. Neither the Browns nor the Jets have spent much in free agency yet (not counting trades made) but I wouldn't be surprised if teams are overspending for players because they know they are competing with teams like the Jets and Browns. For example, with Joe Thomas retiring, you can be sure that the Browns were interested in Solder. The Giants really had to overpay.
