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nattysez

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Benintendi now at -1.2 FanGraphs WAR and -1.5 BRef. At least on FanGraphs, that's tied for worst in MLB. That hamate surgery seems to have really crushed him.
 

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Benintendi now at -1.2 FanGraphs WAR and -1.5 BRef. At least on FanGraphs, that's tied for worst in MLB. That hamate surgery seems to have really crushed him.
He was already in decline before that, I think. His OPS by team is revealing:

BOS: .789 (2104 PAs)
KC: .774 (928 PAs)
NYY: .734 (131 PAs)
CHW: .648 (778 PAs)

And this year (included in CHW data) he is at .516, yoiks.
 

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What was striking to me in his very brief stint in NY is how much his power had already disappeared, I remember him blasting some balls against NY in Yankee Stadium when he first came up, but by the time he got to NY, you could play the outfield in against him if you wanted. The only better than average skill he had for NY was diving (literally), but he was spectacular at that, both in the field and on the bases, so good at getting full horizontal really quickly. I remember reading at one point that his 2022 hamate injury was actually his second, which would make more sense, but I couldn't find confirmation of that just now.

Benintendi's defense has declined rapidly also, negative DRS numbers in LF in both years in Chicago so far. He and Yoshida signed the same winter, both allegedly LFers, Yoshida for 5/90 and Benintendi for 5/75. I said after the Yoshida signing that I did not like it (but I thought it was an interesting roll of the dice by Bloom given the small Fenway LF), but I definitely liked it better than the slightly smaller Benintendi deal, and all of that I still think. Both looking pretty awful currently, but sometimes the longer term deals can boomerang back to assets. Rodon is mostly back to himself so far this year after a Manoah-like 2023, for instance.
 

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Yeah, it’s kind of crazy in that Benintendi looked like a really good player from the get go- not great at anything, but pretty solid all around. Now he’s not even 30, but is kinda terrible. Dude was a 5 win player at 23. I guess it happens, even if his career were to end this second he would have had a 15 bWAR career which is certainly respectable. And he’s made $50M.
 

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Matt Strahm has some insane numbers this season:

18 IP, 12 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 29K, and an FIP of 0.06.
I looked at that last night actually, he has a surprisingly big contract. This is his second year at $7.5M per year of three, and it can vest into a 4/30 deal in total if he pitches 60 innings next year.
 

nattysez

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Schauffele's win today led me to check on X. Currently at -.2 WAR and a 72 OPS+ while almost exclusively playing 2b. He was similarly bad in the first half last season, so there's still hope.
 

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FWIW, he had two cortisone shots in his left wrist last year. One in March and one in July. He had a very hot April, scuffed through the year, and had a hot September. All in all it wasn't a bad year, but it was his worst since 2017.

It's like he peaked at age 27 - all his batting stats are a bell curve up and back down in the past 2 years: Barrel %, exit velocity, K rate, BB rate. . .https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/xander-bogaerts-593428?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb

Maybe some surgery and a year off can jump-start him or something.
 

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I just looked up and realized that, despite a 2.84 era, James Paxton's secondary pitching stats are absolutely falling off a cliff. The average velo on his 4-seam has dropped from 95.2 to 93.5, his k% has dropped almost in half (24.6% to 13.0%), his bb% has nearly doubled (8% to 13.0%), and predictably his xERA has climbed from 3.77 to 5.57. I don't know if he's injured or just going down the steep slope of age-related decline but not a great trend.
 

Petagine in a Bottle

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Just saw this….yikes. He made the playoff roster in 2017, 0.52 era in 17 big league innings. Never pitched in the bigs again, only 8 minor league innings after that. Always hurt.
 

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I don't think he's a jerk. But his moping and poor attitude when he's hurt or things aren't going well for him can't be fun to be around. He's probably a lot of fun right now.
 

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LOL Sale is now at 2.22 era, 0.86 whip, and 11.1 k/9 while averaging 6.1 innings per start.

#11 among qualified pitchers in ERA
#3 among qualified pitchers in WHIP
#8 among qualified pitchers in K/9
#19 in innings pitched
#22 in quality starts
#9 in bWAR

By the way, here's Houck's rankings in these categories:

#7 among qualified pitchers in ERA
#8 among qualified pitchers in WHIP
#42 among qualified pitchers in K/9
t#2 in innings pitched
t#1 in quality starts
#8 in bWAR
 

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Justin Turner has hit a stretch. O for 28 and 3 for 44 in May. Down to .225 now.
 

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Austin Maddox, 33, of Jacksonville, Florida, is charged with traveling to meet after using a computer to solicit a child, solicitation of a child via computer to engage in sexual conduct, unlawful use of a two-way communication device, and producing or promoting performance which included sexual performance by a child, a Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office arrest report indicated.
https://sports.yahoo.com/ex-red-sox-player-arrested-183425524.html

He did some nice work out of the pen in 2017 but then sucked in the minors in 2018 and was released. Never made it to another team's roster after that. Was our third round pick back in 2012 and was in BA's top 100 prospects when drafted, so he had a decent pedigree too.
 

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Weren't Sale and Houck also both dudes who wouldn't get the COVID vaccine?

I'm not dissing Sale BTW -- I'm sure he's a great teammate in a lot of ways. But that may not have been the best way ...
 

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I don't think he's a jerk. But his moping and poor attitude when he's hurt or things aren't going well for him can't be fun to be around. He's probably a lot of fun right now.
Except his former teammates in Boston have literally been gushing about him, how he mentored the kids (and still does with Houck, Crawford) and just in general how great a teammate he was? His last few years were not kind to him, so I think we can conclude he was still a good dude when things weren’t going well for him personally.
 

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Yeah cool story. Especially the parts about him flipping out and screaming in the dugout. Houck finds it cool. Maybe others don't?
Have there been many players who haven't flipped out in the dugout? I mean, you need to look no further than the angry David Ortiz smashing the bullpen phone. I think they all do it one time or another. Now if it is constantly happening with a specific player, then I can see your point.
 

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https://sports.yahoo.com/ex-red-sox-player-arrested-183425524.html

He did some nice work out of the pen in 2017 but then sucked in the minors in 2018 and was released. Never made it to another team's roster after that. Was our third round pick back in 2012 and was in BA's top 100 prospects when drafted, so he had a decent pedigree too.
I was trying to remember- I know he had some kind of arm issues, which was disappointing, as he appeared to be pretty damned good. Look no further than Wikipedia:

Due to shoulder inflammation during spring training, Maddox began the 2018 season on the disabled list.[8] He was sent on rehabilitation assignments with Triple-A Pawtucket on May 18, Double-A Portland on May 30,[9] and Pawtucket again on June 2.[10] On July 8, he was transferred to the 60-day disabled list.[11] On August 16, Maddox was sent on a rehabilitation assignment with the Gulf Coast League Red Sox, and on August 24 with Triple-A Pawtucket.[12] On September 19, Maddox had surgery on his right rotator cuff with what was described as a right shoulder strain;[13] he did not play in any MLB games during 2018.
 

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Pedroia didn’t find it so awesome. I guess I wouldn’t either, if I unexpectedly had shrapnel sent in my direction. I don’t recall Sale ever putting a teammate in actual danger like Ortiz did there.
Yeah I know. I was joking.

But Ortiz was always a team leader. I feel like Sale was just weird.

Yet I wish he was still on the team.
 

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And yet, who really cares. Dude was soliciting sex with an underage minor. That may be the nicest he's treated until he gets to jail
That’s some wild shit. Maddox fell off the deep end of life. He’s so done. F him.
 

joe dokes

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Does lamenting the loss of Mookie put you in the FOM?

If so I guess it would apply to Sox fans who lamented the loss of Ruth, too.
"Lamenting" is fine. But as with all losses in life, if that's all the lamenter talks about.......
 

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"Lamenting" is fine. But as with all losses in life, if that's all the lamenter talks about.......
I haven't mentioned Mookie in like two weeks!

That being said, right now he leads all of baseball in WAR. Interestingly his OPS is down slightly from last year but his OPS+ is up due to the lower overall offensive environment.

He's at 68.2 WAR at age 31. Unreal pace he's been setting.
 

teddywingman

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Man I've been trying so hard not to bring him up, but Joe "Fight Club" Kelly hasn't allowed a run in his last 6 appearances.

Dodgers are gonna win for real this year.