Fixing WEEI

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Steve Dillard said:
The reason I enjoy are listening to Felger and others is that they mock the national media
 
Slight nitpick here, but Felger raves about the national media and their ability to break stories on Boston's sports teams, while ridiculing the local beat guys for "circling the wagons" to defend the clubs but rarely breaking any significant news. I can't remember the last time I heard him mock any national press figure or outlet.
 
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This is probably a cost-cutting move, but I have to say it's a welcome one as a radio listener.  Sports flashes were useful 15-20 years ago before constant mobile connectivity.  Now they're just annoying.  I hope 98.5 follows suit.
 
I doubt they will. Most of their flash "reporters", especially Beetle & Hook, are actually smart and talented radio guys with great pipes. TSH seems to use their flash role as a means to keep them involved in the banter without having them serve as third wheels and without having to name them as co-hosts on the masthead (obviously Beetle also hosts a weekend show and frequently hosts or co-hosts F&M when one or both are out, so his overall role is more significant). TSH's formula is working. They're winning the battle big-time, and they have no incentive to change anything right now.
 
timlinin8th said:
Maybe they're hoping if he does the ads personally he'll remember what companies are paying advertising dollars and he won't insult them on-air?
 
Not that it really matters since they both suck balls, but wasn't it Callahan that made the Dunkin' Munchkins comments?
 
Patriot_Reign said:
wow, Pete Gustin left 'eei/ wrko yesterday
talented guy
 
the1andonly3003 said:
bet Ordway gives him some work
 
My first thought as well. 
 

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Loving the Dale & Holley throwback the last couple days. Is it a long-term answer? Probably not, but right now it sure hits the spot. I'd be interested to see if F&M listeners click over if they knew there was rational sports talk across the dial right now.
 

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I can't figure out why WEEI would institute the "hosts read the flash" thing the week that Salk is on vacation. Unless he's not on vacation. 
 

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Really nice guy hired into a very tough situation. Wish him the best.
 

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Salk will do fine.  Bad situation but he had a really successful career before he came to the Titanic.  Probably wanted to return home but it didn't work out.  Hope he got a nice little payout for all of his grief. 
 
Edit:  Holley really is the grim reaper of talk radio, huh?
 

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WEEI need more hosts with confidence. Salk doesn't have it, Mutt doesn't have it, (Merloni and Holley sort of do but it doesn't matter because they're not driving the ship), but they need someone who has balls (for lack of a better term).
 
The radio shows that work in Boston all have the same thing: they have hosts that have confidence in their abilities*. What I mean by this is they have a pretty strong opinion and aren't afraid to state it. Like them or not, Callahan and Felger have opinions and you can see something unfolding tonight and have a pretty good idea of what these two are going to say tomorrow (Dennis and Maz are superfluous, they could stick a monkey next to these two and the shows would still work). They also don't let their calls drone on, Salk never knew when to cut the caller's mics. Never. People would go on and on and on and on for more than 30 seconds (which in radio land is an eternity). I can't tell you how many times I switched the radio because Jack from Bolton (or whomever) kept trying to make a point and never got there. It sucks. Felger cuts people off after 20 seconds (unless its a celebrity caller, but I think that this is like a 60-second time out for him, half the time he doesn't even engage them. He lets them talk, then hangs up and goes on with his point).
 
Salk seemed like a good guy, but it didn't feel like he was in charge. In fact, it felt like he was keeping the seat warm for someone else. His give-and-take with Holley was okay, but he needed to come in and shake shit up. WEEI needs another Michael Felger, and I don't think that Michael Smith is that guy. Minnihane would probably be perfect for drive-time, but if they took him from D&C that show would end up in the toilet.
 
BTW, Toucher and Rich may not know half that much about sports as their contemporaries, but it doesn't matter because they don't give a crap and their bits are so good. They are passionate about what they're passionate about and if they get a guest who meshes well with them, then the spot is terrific. They're in a completely different stratosphere than F&M or D&C.
 
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John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
WEEI need more hosts with confidence. Salk doesn't have it, Mutt doesn't have it, (Merloni and Holley sort of do but it doesn't matter because they're not driving the ship), but they need someone who has balls (for lack of a better term).
 
The radio shows that work in Boston all have the same thing: they have hosts that have confidence in their abilities*. What I mean by this is they have a pretty strong opinion and aren't afraid to state it. Like them or not, Callahan and Felger have opinions and you can see something unfolding tonight and have a pretty good idea of what these two are going to say tomorrow (Dennis and Maz are superfluous, they could stick a monkey next to these two and the shows would still work). They also don't let their calls drone on, Salk never knew when to cut the caller's mics. Never. People would go on and on and on and on for more than 30 seconds (which in radio land is an eternity). I can't tell you how many times I switched the radio because Jack from Bolton (or whomever) kept trying to make a point and never got there. It sucks. Felger cuts people off after 20 seconds (unless its a celebrity caller, but I think that this is like a 60-second time out for him, half the time he doesn't even engage them. He lets them talk, then hangs up and goes on with his point).
 
Salk seemed like a good guy, but it didn't feel like he was in charge. In fact, it felt like he was keeping the seat warm for someone else. His give-and-take with Holley was okay, but he needed to come in and shake shit up. WEEI needs another Michael Felger, and I don't think that Michael Smith is that guy. Minnihane would probably be perfect for drive-time, but if they took him from D&C that show would end up in the toilet.
 
BTW, Toucher and Rich may not know half that much about sports as their contemporaries, but it doesn't matter because they don't give a crap and their bits are so good. They are passionate about what they're passionate about and if they get a guest who meshes well with them, then the spot is terrific. They're in a completely different stratosphere than F&M or D&C.
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Minihane and Tom E Curran would be my choice, I'd listen to them over Felger and Mazz for sure
 
i like Curran a lot, I always read his ProJo articles with enthusiasm, but he's not a five-times-a-week guy. He's goofy and funny and change of pace, but he's not suited for every day IMO.
 
Minihane is a strong choice, I have touted him in the D&C Thread. I agree that they can't take him off D&C, he's the only thing keeping them afloat. I do wonder, however, how Minihane would do as a lead guy. His greatest strength right now is putting the two blowhards in their place and sounding at least competent in a sea of nonsense, I don't know if Minihane can be captain of the ship, leading the way when he's not buffering two idiots. Not saying he can't, just saying it would be a different role for him.
 

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i like Curran a lot, I always read his ProJo articles with enthusiasm, but he's not a five-times-a-week guy. He's goofy and funny and change of pace, but he's not suited for every day IMO.
 
Minihane is a strong choice, I have touted him in the D&C Thread. I agree that they can't take him off D&C, he's the only thing keeping them afloat. I do wonder, however, how Minihane would do as a lead guy. His greatest strength right now is putting the two blowhards in their place and sounding at least competent in a sea of nonsense, I don't know if Minihane can be captain of the ship, leading the way when he's not buffering two idiots. Not saying he can't, just saying it would be a different role for him.
 
Over on BostonSportsMedia.com, they nicknamed Ted Sarandis something like "The Humorless Ghoul." I think Minihane in the driver's seat would likely be THG v.2.0
 

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John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
...BTW, Toucher and Rich may not know half that much about sports as their contemporaries, but it doesn't matter because they don't give a crap and their bits are so good. They are passionate about what they're passionate about and if they get a guest who meshes well with them, then the spot is terrific. They're in a completely different stratosphere than F&M or D&C.
 
 
Every so often I feel the need to point out that T&R actually know more about sports than they let on, and they know more about some things than their professional-sportswriter competition. They also genuinely watch a lot of games, which I am not entirely convinced is true of everyone with a show. I swear half the guys on the radio are spending weeks at a time mostly just talking off of stuff they learned from columns and ESPN.
 
It's true that T&R are not usually a good primary source for deep sports insight, but they are probably better at radio than any other sports host in Boston. And I'm not certain that "professional sportswriter" automatically confers any particular expertise in sports. Sometimes I think it just means that you were the last one picked off the bench out of journalism school.
 
I know T&R play up the whole "we're just dumb shock-jocks who don't know anything about sports", and I know that some other hosts definitely claim more authoritative understanding than their work product proves. But it's good to keep in mind that both of those are spin, sales-pitches. 
 

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Every so often I feel the need to point out that T&R actually know more about sports than they let on, and they know more about some things than their professional-sportswriter competition. They also genuinely watch a lot of games, which I am not entirely convinced is true of everyone with a show. I swear half the guys on the radio are spending weeks at a time mostly just talking off of stuff they learned from columns and ESPN.
 
It's true that T&R are not usually a good primary source for deep sports insight, but they are probably better at radio than any other sports host in Boston. And I'm not certain that "professional sportswriter" automatically confers any particular expertise in sports. Sometimes I think it just means that you were the last one picked off the bench out of journalism school.
 
I know T&R play up the whole "we're just dumb shock-jocks who don't know anything about sports", and I know that some other hosts definitely claim more authoritative understanding than their work product proves. But it's good to keep in mind that both of those are spin, sales-pitches. 
 
I agree with a lot of this. Especially Fred who is far smarter about sports than their "nerd" Wallach only his knowledge isn't as local to the Boston scene which is pretty important here. Fred is also one of the best interviewers in the market and obviously Rich is a genius with his production and bits. However the last 2 days I've had to shut the show off as they've veered more towards a straight sports show about Talib and Revis. There is good reason because it's huge news but another thing I appreciate about the show is that they bounce around. 2 straight days of football talk in March from these guys was too much for me. They'll go back tomorrow to what they are and should stick to that as the ratings have proven over and over. 
 
As for WEEI, I agree with much of JMOH's great post above. I do think Minihane could be good in the afternoon and branch out for himself but that won't happen anytime soon. Maybe they could try to poach Bertrand from 98.5? Beyond that I can't think of anyone who would really put up a fight with F&M. 
 

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I agree with a lot of this. Especially Fred who is far smarter about sports than their "nerd" Wallach only his knowledge isn't as local to the Boston scene which is pretty important here.
I had thought this as well but this week has been strange for Fred. ON Mondy he was woefully uninformed about the Patriot's options with Wilfork, essentially concluding "there's now way they can cut him."
This morning he was similarly confused about the franchise tag. A caller suggested offering Jimmy Graham a contract and giving up the 2 first rounders. Fred's repsonse was "and you think NO, who just franchise tagged him, would just trade him away?"
It was odd and sort of below his normal level of sports knowledge
 

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I had thought this as well but this week has been strange for Fred. ON Mondy he was woefully uninformed about the Patriot's options with Wilfork, essentially concluding "there's now way they can cut him."
This morning he was similarly confused about the franchise tag. A caller suggested offering Jimmy Graham a contract and giving up the 2 first rounders. Fred's repsonse was "and you think NO, who just franchise tagged him, would just trade him away?"
It was odd and sort of below his normal level of sports knowledge
 
I couldn't tell if he was being sarcastic or not about the Graham thing. It has been a strange week. Hopefully they get back to more hockey and baseball soon. Plus some bits.
 

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Over on BostonSportsMedia.com, they nicknamed Ted Sarandis something like "The Humorless Ghoul." I think Minihane in the driver's seat would likely be THG v.2.0
 
I don't get this comparison at all.  Sarandis is much like Mike Francesa in that he is not there to be made sport of.  Any notion that he is incorrect is met with great skepticism. 
Minihane expresses plenty of humor, as evidenced in his recent schtick of being the boss in the morning.
 

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You've got to be informative or entertaining - and ideally you're both. 
 
Salk didn't seem to know much beyond what all of us know, and he just simply was bland as toast. He was mildly funny sometimes if he got going on a rant, but mostly his response to everything was, "nyahhhahhh." 
 
Agreed that you need to be confident and forceful, and Salk wasn't that at all. 
 
I personally like Dale and Holley quite a bit together, as it usually results in just an interesting conversation between two fans, and both have deep knowledge that the average fan doesn't. Dale knows shit about the Bruins I always find new and different and Holley has all that good stuff from his books with Belichick, Bruschi, etc. 
 
And Dale is fairly strong on the Sox since he gets to sit in the chair from time to time, while Holley used to cover the Celts beat. 
 
But I can see why higher ups wouldn't be wowed by them - you're not getting a lot of high-intensity moments. 
 

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Every so often I feel the need to point out that T&R actually know more about sports than they let on, and they know more about some things than their professional-sportswriter competition. They also genuinely watch a lot of games, which I am not entirely convinced is true of everyone with a show. I swear half the guys on the radio are spending weeks at a time mostly just talking off of stuff they learned from columns and ESPN.
 
It's true that T&R are not usually a good primary source for deep sports insight, but they are probably better at radio than any other sports host in Boston. And I'm not certain that "professional sportswriter" automatically confers any particular expertise in sports. Sometimes I think it just means that you were the last one picked off the bench out of journalism school.
 
I know T&R play up the whole "we're just dumb shock-jocks who don't know anything about sports", and I know that some other hosts definitely claim more authoritative understanding than their work product proves. But it's good to keep in mind that both of those are spin, sales-pitches. 
 
I don't think that T&R know nothing about sports and I didn't really say that. But I do think that they know a little less than their compatriots, maybe the nuances of sports and that's okay because I don't subscribe to the fact that you have to know the ins-and-outs of the latest CBA to have a discussion about sports. You should know something and I think that T&R does, but Felger knows way more about the NFL CBA. Gresh probably knows more about defensive systems and I'd rather listen to Rich fart for four hours than a minute of Gresh.
 
That being said, I think that the T&R are the hardest working guys in Boston sports. And I don't mean with the bits or the interviews, I think that both of these guys do their homework. They read as much as they can, they watch as many games as they can (at least the big events and the four locals), they generally appear to enjoy themselves and the don't have any typical "HOT SPORTS TAKES". The latter is most important, IMO. And I think that they realized that they needed to work hard because they would be looked at as interlopers. There is a very prevalent high school mentality in the Boston sports media and to take that analogy to the next level, Toucher and Rich have wandered from their burnout, heavy metal lunch table and sat at the jocks' table (or at least the nerdy jock table). Unlike high school, this is real-life with real consequences, so instead of half-assing it, they used their whole asses and have done a really good job. But most of all, they've been entertaining.
 
I like Toucher and Rich a lot and their show is really good. Having said that, I don't think that there overall sports IQ is any higher than a good poster on SoSH. And that's not a bad thing.
 

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If you took two posters from SoSH out of the best 100 and put them on some third station between 10-2 I would almost certainly choose to listen to them over my current choices.
 

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If you took two posters from SoSH out of the best 100 and put them on some third station between 10-2 I would almost certainly choose to listen to them over my current choices.
Most everyone here would listen but it'd probably either be a.) the most boring show in town because of the lack or reactionary, intentionally obtuse discussions or b.) the most entertaining because traditional callers would routinely be shamed for being typical radio show callers
 

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Most everyone here would listen but it'd probably either be a.) the most boring show in town because of the lack or reactionary, intentionally obtuse discussions or b.) the most entertaining because traditional callers would routinely be shamed for being typical radio show callers
 
It is like you don't know us at all.
 

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Working from home today and turned on NESN and the first thing I see is Jerry Thornton, wtf is that about? He was so good on F&M that WEEI needed to go out and steal him? 
 
Good news is Dennis isn't there but they way they are talking it's temporary and he didn't get "Salked".
 
I'm no radio programmer but I'm going to go on a limb and say that Jerry Thornton isn't the way the "fix WEEI".
 

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Working from home today and turned on NESN and the first thing I see is Jerry Thornton, wtf is that about? He was so good on F&M that WEEI needed to go out and steal him? 
 
Good news is Dennis isn't there but they way they are talking it's temporary and he didn't get "Salked".
 
I'm no radio programmer but I'm going to go on a limb and say that Jerry Thornton isn't the way the "fix WEEI".
 
I was watching earlier and heard them tease Thornton so I flipped away and haven't been back.  As for "stealing" from F&M, I believe Thornton has been on with them before, maybe even before he became a regular guest on F&M.  Or maybe I'm confusing him with some other Barstool stooge.  They all run together to me.
 

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haha well he did say the 2 best. I didn't think the reactionary nancies would qualify
I said any 2 of the top 100.  I was originally going to say any random 2 but then I realized I'd probably get Sampo Gida and terrisus aka Mustard and Johnson.
 

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I was watching earlier and heard them tease Thornton so I flipped away and haven't been back.  As for "stealing" from F&M, I believe Thornton has been on with them before, maybe even before he became a regular guest on F&M.  Or maybe I'm confusing him with some other Barstool stooge.  They all run together to me.
 
He was at least on WEEI.com for awhile. In my one man effort to say something bad about Thornton at every turn, this would make nearly as happy as Revis going to the Pats. I'd never have to hear from him again.
 
I can't believe he's a stand up comic. 
 

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He was at least on WEEI.com for awhile. In my one man effort to say something bad about Thornton at every turn, this would make nearly as happy as Revis going to the Pats. I'd never have to hear from him again.
 
I can't believe he's a stand up comic. 
 
He's a stand-up comic? Ugh. I was listening a little bit this morning and he started going on a "rant" and Callahan says, "Whoa! Here he goes!" and starts laughing. It was predictably terrible.
 
How is Barstool Sports a thing? I mean, I get the pics of half-naked girls (which are unavailable anywhere on the internet) but it's not funny, it's not insightful and you've seen it/read it a million times in other places.
 

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If he's co-hosting D&C, he's got to be off F&M right? I am actually looking forward to 2:40 today to find out.
 

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As far as short-form high-volume lifestyle blogs go Barstool figured it out quick.  It might not be for you but I think their writers are very funny and their formula is pretty bulletproof. 
 

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As far as short-form high-volume lifestyle blogs go Barstool figured it out quick.  It might not be for you but I think their writers are very funny and their formula is pretty bulletproof. 
 
What's their formula? They're a dumbed-down version of Deadspin.
 

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I don't get this comparison at all.  Sarandis is much like Mike Francesa in that he is not there to be made sport of.  Any notion that he is incorrect is met with great skepticism. 
Minihane expresses plenty of humor, as evidenced in his recent schtick of being the boss in the morning.
 
I didn't hear that segment. You could be right. I'd certainly welcome giving him a try.
 

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What's their formula? They're a dumbed-down version of Deadspin.
 
There's a very large market out there for dumbed-down. So it's really a pretty good formula if you want to get page hits and you don't care about being especially good or insightful.
 

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What's their formula? They're a dumbed-down version of Deadspin.
 
They heavily target the "I'm not PC and proud of it" identity crowd too--you know, the guys who aren't just not PC but need you to know this about them as some kind of badge of honor? The page gets into scraps with feminist blogs periodically and the feminist blogs seem not to understand they are just throwing them red meat.
 

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Dale, Yates and Andy Hart were great today in the 2 o'clock hour. If you want to gorge on Pats, it wasn't a bad way to go. 
 
Very true. 
 
 
Christian Fauria has been pretty good in the past couple of weeks too.
 

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I dunno, I was a regular reader for years and years, but then got a more exposed cubicle, so I didn't want to scroll through NSFW stuff at work anymore, but I also grew out of it, at least a little bit.  I still follow on Facebook, so I can click through when something catches my eye.  I disagree with the (without a hint of a wink).  I think many of the blog entries are tongue in cheek, but I think that they're probably too subtle for the regular audience.  I know I wouldn't trust a 16 year old boy to discern the satire from many of the posts.
 

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RE: SoSHers being better than radio hosts...

SoSH collectively is significantly more informative and intelligent (usually) than any regular show I can think of, on tv or radio. And some of the best SoSHers contribute more and better insights on a regular basis than any radio host I can think of.

That said, nobody on SoSH has to spend four hours a day, every day, talking about sports. The best posters tend to post mostly or only when they actually have something worth contributing. They are not required to put 20 hours worth of content on SoSH every week.

Second, and perhaps most controversially, the stuff that SoSH is best at; things like technical analysis, stats and contract talk, in-depth personal expertise, and so on... That stuff does not make for good radio. Good radio and tv depends to varying degrees on some kind of human dramatic conflict. Don't believe me? Pick your favorite SoSH thread and start reading it out loud to someone, or just make a recording for yourself: it will be completely unlistenable. Perhaps you may retort that of course it will need some polishing up or delivery tweaks or something...

Well, that leads into my final point, which is that the ability to compose, self-edit and deliver a live and compelling dialogue on demand is rarer than the ability to think of something smart or witty about sports.

Everyone's job looks easy to the people who don't have to do it. Most people who are professionally "good at talking" (salespeople, trial lawyers, etc) are actually giving carefully-prepared and extensively-rehearsed variations on a handful of stock scripts/performances. The ability to speak instantly and extemporaneously on any topic for long periods of time is a rare one.

Boston is blessed to have some of the best sports-media on the planet. If you compare it to what is actually on the air elsewhere, instead of to some platonic ideal, it's actually quite good. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop mocking the idiocy that frequently makes it onto the air or into print...
 

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RE: SoSHers being better than radio hosts...

SoSH collectively is significantly more informative and intelligent (usually) than any regular show I can think of, on tv or radio. And some of the best SoSHers contribute more and better insights on a regular basis than any radio host I can think of.

That said, nobody on SoSH has to spend four hours a day, every day, talking about sports. The best posters tend to post mostly or only when they actually have something worth contributing. They are not required to put 20 hours worth of content on SoSH every week.

Second, and perhaps most controversially, the stuff that SoSH is best at; things like technical analysis, stats and contract talk, in-depth personal expertise, and so on... That stuff does not make for good radio. Good radio and tv depends to varying degrees on some kind of human dramatic conflict. Don't believe me? Pick your favorite SoSH thread and start reading it out loud to someone, or just make a recording for yourself: it will be completely unlistenable. Perhaps you may retort that of course it will need some polishing up or delivery tweaks or something...

Well, that leads into my final point, which is that the ability to compose, self-edit and deliver a live and compelling dialogue on demand is rarer than the ability to think of something smart or witty about sports.

Everyone's job looks easy to the people who don't have to do it. Most people who are professionally "good at talking" (salespeople, trial lawyers, etc) are actually giving carefully-prepared and extensively-rehearsed variations on a handful of stock scripts/performances. The ability to speak instantly and extemporaneously on any topic for long periods of time is a rare one.

Boston is blessed to have some of the best sports-media on the planet. If you compare it to what is actually on the air elsewhere, instead of to some platonic ideal, it's actually quite good. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop mocking the idiocy that frequently makes it onto the air or into print...
I wouldn't disagree with anything you've said here. But one observation about sports talk in Boston is that, to an outsider--hardly any of these hired voices spend much time reading--their feed is constant but limited--and they don't seem to think about content outside of their small oxygenated tank.
 

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[SIZE=12pt]There seems to be a misconception about how Kirk Minihane has effected the ratings of Dennis & Callahan. But the numbers show that his addition has had almost zero effect on the ratings.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Just take a look at the numbers (Men 25-54):[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]January 2013 (Before KM joined D&C) – 6.9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]February 2014 (Most recent ratings) – 6.9[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Additionally, Dennis & Callahan (and Minihane) during that period did not lower the share of their competition:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Toucher & Rich (January 2013) – 11.6[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Toucher & Rich (February 2014) – 11.7[/SIZE]
 
 
[SIZE=12pt]Just an observation. And yes, this is my first post. Long time lurker, first time poster. Please be gentle.[/SIZE]
 
 

NortheasternPJ

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[SIZE=12pt]There seems to be a misconception about how Kirk Minihane has effected the ratings of Dennis & Callahan. But the numbers show that his addition has had almost zero effect on the ratings.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Just take a look at the numbers (Men 25-54):[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]January 2013 (Before KM joined D&C) – 6.9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]February 2014 (Most recent ratings) – 6.9[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Additionally, Dennis & Callahan (and Minihane) during that period did not lower the share of their competition:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Toucher & Rich (January 2013) – 11.6[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Toucher & Rich (February 2014) – 11.7[/SIZE]
 
 
[SIZE=12pt]Just an observation. And yes, this is my first post. Long time lurker, first time poster. Please be gentle.[/SIZE]
 






 
 
Where you getting those #'s from, I don't think the numbers for the current quarter are out yet? (not sure if you can find these out month to month, but i didn't think you could unless you paid for it) Last quarter from Chad Finn:
 
For the sixth straight period, The Sports Hub's "Toucher and Rich" program finished first in morning drive (6-10 a.m), checking in with a 12.2, up from a 10.8 in the summer. WEEI's "Dennis and Callahan" finished a strong second with a 9.0, ascending from a 7.2 in the summer and a 6.0 in the spring.