NFC East?soxhop411 said:@ESPNNFL: The Pats WON'T win the NFC East! Shady will lead NFL in rushing!
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Yup. Got me to click. I saw the headline and thought how is this not the main story? Wow.....Payton is getting rid of Brees. Click. Oh, not so much.Marciano490 said:The url for an article on how the Saints won't trade Brees:
espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12557106/new-orleans-saints-coach-sean-payton-says-qb-drew-brees-traded
The link in the rundown says: Payton: Brees not part of Saints' makeover, which, to me, sounds like they're saying Brees won't remain with the Saints as part of their effort to remake the team.
Mike, re Felger & Mazz: there's a flip side to that coin. Most of the sports media in town is beholden to the teams to some degree. The Red Sox literally own The Globe. So, on the one hand, those guys are guilty of making a lot of stuff up. But on the other, at least they're not paid propagandists.
Mike
(11:14 AM)
Peter, I think "paid propagandists" is way, way, way too extreme. The scary part of that is that if that's what "Felger & Mazz" are pushing, and people really believe it, it's just wrong. They were once in the same position as reporters covering a team or league and I would never have called them "paid propagandists" at that time. They were damn good reporters. They've crossed a line now and their role is different as entertainers, but I think it is really disingenuous of them to suggest that those covering teams are "paid propagandists", if they are indeed doing that. I would absolutely challenge them on that. It's about relationships and being fair, accountable, and professional to those you cover. That's different than propaganda and to suggest otherwise is classic WWE stuff.
Mike, do you think there is any chance that the league would have outlawed the ineligible/eligible plays if Peyton Manning, Sean Payton, Chip Kelly, Andy Reid, or some other offensive 'genius' had used it. That person would be celebrated as innovative, but because the league is jealous of the pats success, they try to penalize them at every turn. That is why I feel there is no way that the league does not come down very hard on the pats for deflategate, no matter what the actual facts are.
Mike
(11:18 AM)
No, I don't, Bill. I very much felt an anti-Patriots slant to these meetings, more from several of the teams themselves. Everyone's pretty much jealous, it's a highly competitive environment, and you see that sort of manifest itself in these settings when everyone is together. It's a dynamic like no other -- technically these 32 teams are partners, but the way they act around each other at times is middle-school level stuff.
Johnny [via mobile]
Why would you say everyone is just jealous? That's part of the problem, they aren't jealous, they are concerned about the integrity of the sport. Its highly irresponsible for you to suggest jealousy and ignore the elephant in the room. Do you think the rule change for ineligible receivers was out of spite or out of closing a loophole?
Mike
(11:30 AM)
If they are truly concerned about the integrity of the sport, I would say they have some much higher priorities than focusing on eligible receivers reporting as ineligible. There are hundreds of envelopes to push in a rulebook that is way, way, way, way too large. Wait until you see what Belichick comes up with in 2015. There's more where that came from; it's all within the rules.
Johnny [via mobile]
So your stance is its okay for Belichick to use loopholes in the rules and everyone else is jealous? I thought journalist were supposed to be objective.
Mike
(11:38 AM)
No, that is not my stance, Johnny. Every team pushes the envelope. This is called competition. But the Patriots have a target on their back because of their success and everything they do will be scrutinized more than others. That is my stance. For example, if the Patriots were piping in crowd noise like the Falcons, or illegally texting during games like the Browns, the reaction would be much more extreme. If we can't agree on that, we're not going to get far here, Johnny. Let's get with it.
Bill (NYC)
Mike, do you think there is any chance that the league would have outlawed the ineligible/eligible plays if Peyton Manning, Sean Payton, Chip Kelly, Andy Reid, or some other offensive 'genius' had used it. That person would be celebrated as innovative, but because the league is jealous of the pats success, they try to penalize them at every turn. That is why I feel there is no way that the league does not come down very hard on the pats for deflategate, no matter what the actual facts are.
Mike
(11:18 AM)
No, I don't, Bill. I very much felt an anti-Patriots slant to these meetings, more from several of the teams themselves. Everyone's pretty much jealous, it's a highly competitive environment, and you see that sort of manifest itself in these settings when everyone is together. It's a dynamic like no other -- technically these 32 teams are partners, but the way they act around each other at times is middle-school level stuff.
Mike, the Pats did not invent the play. Should we just start outlawing the read option or other trick plays since they are innovative? The NFL is a professional league, it's time for the league to act like it.
Mike
(11:44 AM)
Here's the point to me, Adam. The league just instituted a rule that allows an independent spotter to stop the game and remove a player who might be concussed. Many are pointing to the Patriots and Julian Edelman as the impetus for the change -- the league's competition committee said as much -- based on what happened in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. Fair enough. But if I'm not mistaken, Seahawks QB Russell Wilson looked eyes-glossed-over in the NFC title game against the Packers. That's the same thing. But from a public perception standpoint, it's the "Edelman Rule." That might be the classic example right there.
Mike
(11:44 AM)
Such is life on the top.
Mike - Love your work. I constantly check the website throughout the day. However you work for ESPN. That network is way more guilty of over-the-top viewpoints and unsubstantiated rumors than Feldger and Maz. ESPN invented sports reporting as entertainment.
Mike
(11:22 AM)
KTP, I read your whole comment but pared it down. This is fair. That doesn't change my viewpoint on the topic.
Lol, what an absolute joke.thank god they don't have the ncaa tourney.soxhop411 said:@SportsNation: Would Kentucky beat the 72-10 Chicago Bulls? http://t.co/FCnsOlr9RN
adam42381 said:Smart. Take a website that millions have used for years and are intimately familiar with and fuck it all up. Good job.
The bolded is going to need some qualification....kenneycb said:Meh, it's a big company that changes something we're comfortable with. We'll be comfortable with it again in about 2-3 weeks time because ESPN isn't stupid.
Pleasedontmakemedefendespn....glennhoffmania said:I still don't understand why anyone would use that site, either the old or new version. ESPN sucks in any format. All of the info you'd get on there is available in several other places that suck a lot less.
dynomite said:Pleasedontmakemedefendespn....
1) Mike Reiss alone makes the ESPN Boston Patriots coverage among the best in the business.
2) Some of their fantasy advice is pretty good. I like Berry for football and I like Cockcroft for baseball.
Other than that, I almost never visit ESPN.com anymore.
Integrating 538 and Grantland content prominently is smart. If I can get that stuff without going to each website independently that could be useful.
I don't care about the look, but ESPN FC has had this setup for months and it never fucking works correctly.Blacken said:As web designs go, that's at least average, probably above-average, and a huge leap ahead of the shitshow that was the old site (and its separate mobile interface). There's a reason that literally everyone is migrating towards a responsive, flat, and open web design: because almost every user test anyone tries indicates that it's easier to navigate and consume content in this manner.
but d-d-d-different is baaaad bbbbaaaaaaaw
Seriously, you jokers made me just defend ESPN. Go to your rooms, all of you.
Cellar-Door said:I don't care about the look, but ESPN FC has had this setup for months and it never fucking works correctly.
Example- Right now on the homepage if you have firefox the live scores frame is too small and only shows the top team of each matchup.
On ESPNFC on mobile the right frame almost never fits to the screen correctly causing you to have to scroll right to left to read every sentence
ifmanis5 said:Here's an ESPN.com story on the new ESPN.com. Be sure to check out the comments. In short, the reviews are negative. LINK: http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/page/AnniversaryLaunch/whole-new-website
Tyrone Biggums said:LeBron is the number 2 athlete of the last 20 years...And I'm done