They learned exactly the wrong lesson from the second round exit last year. They needed to get faster, instead they thought they needed to get tougher.jk333 said:All their picks were two way gritty players. It's beginning to look like Kelly, Campbell and McQaid were Neely/Sweeney's thing.
Sinistas said:In the history of professional sports, has there ever been a single day where a GM made this many questionable (at best) moves?
RedSox040713 said:https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/614594114437427200
this is optimistic, in my opinion. I think these were the players that they wanted, after they scouted everyone.miracleofmidre said:I don't think this is a tank job, at least not the draft picks. Those smack of lack of preparation. Trading for picks that high on the day of the draft and then taking these guys means they just didn't prepare for the meat of the round, they prepared for one guy then had to take three. They picked guys they had scouted for the second round, the guys they knew, hence their later round projections.
This is utterly incompetent. Making a trade for a high pick is useful if you know you can do something with it, either via trade or through good, deep draft prep.
8:46 p.m. Maybe in the future we'll all look back at June 26 as the day Don Sweeney proved himself to be the most astute prognosticator of talent in the NHL. More likely though, it'll be remembered as the day he gave away Dougie Hamilton for peanuts and then wasted Calgary's first-rounder on Zach Senyshyn, a player who skated mostly fourth line minutes for the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds and was widely expected to be available deep into the second round. Nothing wrong with reaching for a player, but this feels like a total mismanagement of the asset when players like Barzal, Konecny, White and others are still on the board. Someone needs to throw Sweeney a lifeline. The water's looking a little deep for him today.
That's one way of looking at itLogansDad said:Which means they did better on that pick than the guy the picked 30 picks early?
Except how fucking hard is it in that case to just look at the rankings from the national scouting services and saying "hmmm...well, this guy is really highly rated, and the guys we did look at should still be there in the 2nd, so let's just take whoever the consensus BPA is and move on".miracleofmidre said:I don't think this is a tank job, at least not the draft picks. Those smack of lack of preparation. Trading for picks that high on the day of the draft and then taking these guys means they just didn't prepare for the meat of the round, they prepared for one guy then had to take three. They picked guys they had scouted for the second round, the guys they knew, hence their later round projections.
This is utterly incompetent. Making a trade for a high pick is useful if you know you can do something with it, either via trade or through good, deep draft prep.
Scoops Bolling said:Except how fucking hard is it in that case to just look at the rankings from the national scouting services and saying "hmmm...well, this guy is really highly rated, and the guys we did look at should still be there in the 2nd, so let's just take whoever the consensus BPA is and move on".
Oh right, competence.
Because that would mean they'd have to admit they're not the smartest guys in the room.Scoops Bolling said:Except how fucking hard is it in that case to just look at the rankings from the national scouting services and saying "hmmm...well, this guy is really highly rated, and the guys we did look at should still be there in the 2nd, so let's just take whoever the consensus BPA is and move on".
Oh right, competence.
plus it's not like just because you have your eye on 1 specific guy as a mid first that you don't scout anyone else and have a set of rankings in case things change or you don't get your guyScoops Bolling said:Except how fucking hard is it in that case to just look at the rankings from the national scouting services and saying "hmmm...well, this guy is really highly rated, and the guys we did look at should still be there in the 2nd, so let's just take whoever the consensus BPA is and move on".
Oh right, competence.
Never underestimate the stubbornness of the incompetent.Scoops Bolling said:Except how fucking hard is it in that case to just look at the rankings from the national scouting services and saying "hmmm...well, this guy is really highly rated, and the guys we did look at should still be there in the 2nd, so let's just take whoever the consensus BPA is and move on".
Oh right, competence.
Somehow I'd actually forgotten about that for a minute.RedSox040713 said:Don't worry at least we have McQuaid for 4 more years!!!
miracleofmidre said:I don't think this is a tank job, at least not the draft picks. Those smack of lack of preparation. Trading for picks that high on the day of the draft and then taking these guys means they just didn't prepare for the meat of the round, they prepared for one guy then had to take three. They picked guys they had scouted for the second round, the guys they knew, hence their later round projections.
This is utterly incompetent. Making a trade for a high pick is useful if you know you can do something with it, either via trade or through good, deep draft prep.
PaulinMyrBch said:Someone explain the basics of drafting to me. Seriously. I'm a more than casual Bruins fan but don't invest any time to understanding Providence or how kids make the show. So how long does it takes the 1 pick, 14-16, and later round picks to hit the NHL roster?
What is realistic with these 3 we just took? Actually, let me rephrase...what is realistic had we drafted the 13th, 14th, 15th best players available?
Um, Austin Matthews?RedSox040713 said:Is it too early to buy an Austin Mahone jersey, or are they going to trade the first pick next year for some gritty 4th liners and 7th round picks?
The problem is so long as they have Tuukka and Bergeron/Krejci they're not going to be terrible. So they're stuck in purgatory. Expect them to not sell at the deadline (and maybe add something), miss the playoffs, and end up with something like the #10 pick -- worst of all worlds.Luis Taint said:So who are the top five players in next year's draft.
Yes, for sure it could be this. But one thing we don't know is whether Sweeney defied internal scouting, perhaps he's swinging his dick around a little to show he's the boss despite the guys doing the legwork telling him he was crazy and should have taken Berzal.BigMike said:See, I don;t agree. This team analyzed every player available in the 6-20 range. Their pick was 14, it's not like they just scouted Zboril knowing he would be the guy there at 14, he could have easily gone before them.
If for example they had a pick at 6 and then suddenly dropped a couple in the 24/25 range then I could maybe see having a hole in scouting. Although it doesn't work that way
I wanted Julien gone as much as anyone, but to blame this on him is ridiculous.Steve Dillard said:So, Julien took two months to convince Sweeney to stop drafting youngsters who might need to be played, like that annoying Pasternak kid last year?
Sweeney's cousin?soxhop411 said:So. Uh. All three picks have the same agent.