#DFG: Canceling the Noise

Is there any level of suspension that you would advise Tom to accept?


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Otis Foster

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Eddie Jurak said:
How about this settlement offer from the Brady camp: fine, no suspension, no admission of guilt, and the NFL accepts Brady's sworn testimony.
 
How do you explain the fine? He had to have done something.
 
This isn't a parking ticket.
 

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Otis Foster said:
 
How do you explain the fine? He had to have done something.
 
This isn't a parking ticket.
 
the cooperation issue.  He can can accept that the phone thing was "uncooperative" while still claiming innocence of any actual wrongdoing.
 
He's being accused of stealing a car, and also of a parking violation.  The car wasn't stolen and he won't admit to that, but yeah, I guess the car was a little far from the curb...can I get back on the field now?
 

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Schlereth on ESPN2 says Goodell and Brady are meeting privately before seeing the judge.
 

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Harry Hooper said:
Schlereth on ESPN2 says Goodell and Brady are meeting privately before seeing the judge.
Chances Goodell stabs himself in the leg and says Brady did it, using it as a reason to extend the suspension to a lifetime ban? 50%.
 

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If I was Brady, I'd have a very tough time controlling myself while alone in a room with Goodell. 
 

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Who requested that meeting?  I have to imagine its Roger and I think that only compromises his position, just like his idiotic comments yesterday compromised his position with the judge
 

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Otis Foster said:
 
How do you explain the fine? He had to have done something.
 
This isn't a parking ticket.
Not handing over his phone. Favre got fined 50k, so he accepts he had notice blah blah.
 

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Chances Goodell stabs himself in the leg and says Brady did it, using it as a reason to extend the suspension to a lifetime ban? 50%.
 
 
Ha, I was going to say I expect NFL leaks afterward that Brady had to be physically restrained from assaulting the Commish.
 

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CaptainLaddie said:
Honestly, this is what I'm terrified of.
Why? If they had one, what would be the point of sitting on it until that moment? We've heard what the league has and there is no hard evidence of any wrongdoing.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Goodell flat out lied and tells Brady JJ or JM have flipped.
 
 
Yes, the bad "Law and Order" episode script continues.
 

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The NFL being able to keep a smoking gun from leaking would honestly be the most surprising thing of this whole farce.
 

wutang112878

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I just saw this report on ESPN, some significant stuff if you ask me:
 

The NFL on Tuesday changed its settlement offer to Tom Brady, saying there will be no settlement unless Brady accepts the findings of the Wells report, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen.
 
The NFL had no comment Wednesday.
 
If Brady had accepted the findings of the Wells report, he would be contradicting his appeal testimony, under oath, in front of NFL commissioner Goodell on June 23.
 
 
 
So they are basically asking him to admit to perjury.  Even if he was lying, they are insane if they think he is going to do that.
 

Goodell and the league's lawyers, meanwhile, on Wednesday morning met with U.S. District Judge Richard Berman for about 15 minutes before the start of a scheduled court hearing in Manhattan.
 
 
 


Who requested this?  Because if it was Berman, then I think thats pretty telling.  Fingers crossed.
 

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glennhoffmania said:
If I was Brady, I'd have a very tough time controlling myself while alone in a room with Goodell. 
 
I think he needs to convey absolute and total commitment not only to this appeal process, but to investing in the PR and potential legal campaign he is quite capable of launching once Berman is done.   
 
Roughly stated, "Roger, you have lied about me.  You have defamed me.  You have no case here, no evidence, and no defense for what you have done.  You know it, I know it, and regardless of what Judge Berman rules on the technical legal questions before him, by the time I and my wife are done with this case and the media offensive we will bring to bear every person you have ever met will know it, too.  If you want to avoid that I will work with you to minimize the impact of your retreat on you.  But if you do not, let me be very clear with you, I will take you down and I will not stop.  You have already taken from me what is most important; you need to decide whether you are going to force me to return the favor or not"
 
There are many discussions where one needs to convey that you understand the interests of both sides and are option to creative options to resolve a dispute.  This particular conversation, I believe, is likely the opposite of those.
 

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I'm curious about the pulse of those here as to what will happen if this thing does not settle.  And I don't think it will settle for the reasons that have already been well and often expressed by many on SoSH.
 
I recognize that views could change as more briefs get filed and the process ensues.
 
This thread and poll are meant only to be about what happens in front of Berman. 
 
While people are of course free to discuss whatever they like, I am not asking about what happens on appeal or even if the parties will appeal.  For now, I would rather save that discussion for another day/thread.
 
 

Ed Hillel

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Stitch01 said:
The NFL being able to keep a smoking gun from leaking would honestly be the most surprising thing of this whole farce.
There's just no way. We'd have to believe they would have done so to...keep Brady's reputation from being harmed?? Yeahhh...
 

Ed Hillel

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fuck off.
Well, usually a "I see strengths and weaknesses" is a "split down the middle" suggestion, but sounds like there is more to come. Let's get the totality of it.
 

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Ed Hillel said:
Well, usually a "I see strengths and weaknesses" is a "split down the middle" suggestion, but sounds like there is more to come. Let's get the totality of it.
 
There is absolutely zero reason sophisticated parties would ever construe 'there is risk to both sides' to mean 'we should settle in exactly the middle'

Literally, no basis.
 

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Ed Hillel said:
Well, usually a "I see strengths and weaknesses" is a "split down the middle" suggestion, but sounds like there is more to come. Let's get the totality of it.
Here it means "You each could lose, so think real hard about settling." Honestly, he can't really say anything else at this point.
 

TheoShmeo

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Saying there are strengths and weaknesses on both sides is typical when trying to push the sides to settle.
 
In other words, it means very little since we already knew that Berman wants a deal. 
 

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Is there any way we could have a lawyer poll and a non lawyer poll? I'm legitimately curious about whether lawyers are better than laypersons at predicting this.
 

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Oh man.
 
It's pretty clear Berman is going to embarrass the NFL here.
 

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Berman: I’m trying to figure out what is the direct evidence that implicates Mr. Brady in that deflation…in that bathroom…on Jan. 18
 

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This whole shit show has, for the first time in my life, made me a Patriots sympathizer.  Good work, Roger.
 

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Well those two quotes from Berman can only be construed as fantastic for Brady. It appears he's not just taking the investigation itself into account, but whether anything actually occurred.