#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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I just heard the Stephen A Smith rationale on Brady/penalty to be upheld/cellphone destruction/Spygate/BB was going to be banned
Wow
how much additional idiocy can the NFL give him to string together?
this is going to get funner
Wow
how much additional idiocy can the NFL give him to string together?
this is going to get funner
It's pure comedy at this point but it all fits in. This shitshow is now a parody of itself and the ultimate parody is reporting on it.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/28/stephen-a-smith-hears-doesnt-know-tom-brady-destroyed-his-phone/cshea said:
PFT's Michael David Smith calls SAS an irresponsible, uninformed attention whore who has no connection to the NFL and should be checking sources before reporting stuff like that on national TV. Basically MDS questions SAS's journalistic integrity and abilities.
Oh, please. Wasn't the "tinfoil hat" enough to make it clear I was in no way serious?drbretto said:
Maybe I should have italicized it too?
Bill Simmons @BillSimmons 1m1 minute ago
Dumbest part of DeflateGate (Day 192): People actually think Brady should have given his private cell phone to the NFL... aka, Leak Central.
Dumbest part of DeflateGate (Day 192): People actually think Brady should have given his private cell phone to the NFL... aka, Leak Central.
Section15Box113 said:
Honestly, it comes off like you're trying to float an idea but are adding the tinfoil hat thing as a shield in case someone calls you out for it. I'm sure, as a reasonable person, that you are a reasonably intelligent person and you don't actually believe it, but it's also the kind of post that gets the attention of the seanberrys of the world, and they use it as fuel for the hate.
dcmissle said:
Yeah, let's leave room for the lawyers to argue back and forth over semantics.
It's not turning on SAS. He made some dumb comments and people reacted. It's not about HIM, it's about this circus. It's always been about the circus.
All the SAS comment is going to do is draw heat on him. A few reporters may go further and question why ESPN is so willing to throw this stuff snd the Mort nonsense on the air, and so unwilling to correct themselves, but this is mostly a big nothing aside from another example of SAS's uselessness.
SAS has mistaken Onion articles for reality in the past. While I no longer think SAS himself was making a joke, I think what he heard about Brady destroying his phone was a Hernandez related joke, and he missed that completely, took it at face value, and reported it.
Even the NFL isn't stupid enough to leak something like this. A third grader running for class president would have more respect for his classmates than to leak something so absurd about his opponent.
SAS has mistaken Onion articles for reality in the past. While I no longer think SAS himself was making a joke, I think what he heard about Brady destroying his phone was a Hernandez related joke, and he missed that completely, took it at face value, and reported it.
Even the NFL isn't stupid enough to leak something like this. A third grader running for class president would have more respect for his classmates than to leak something so absurd about his opponent.
It's good that the NFL is way too ethical to ever leak wild info in an attempt to smear a player just prior to a controversial decision
— Dan Wetzel (@DanWetzel) July 28, 2015
Using SAS to leak info may be the tipping point for some national media folks.
— Dan Wetzel (@DanWetzel) July 28, 2015
Using SAS to leak info may be the tipping point for some national media folks.
To get off the SAS track, for a moment:
lawyer question: if the NFL stays with a 4-game penalty to what extent in its rationale can they deviate from the original reasons? (ie how much can they pretty this up for the next round, or are they locked in as to reasons/process?)
lawyer question: if the NFL stays with a 4-game penalty to what extent in its rationale can they deviate from the original reasons? (ie how much can they pretty this up for the next round, or are they locked in as to reasons/process?)
drbretto said:
It was a joke. The tinfoil hat should have made that clear.
Unless we think that wearing tinfoil hats no longer signify the lunatic fringe - in which case, may god help us all.
Simmons tweeted that Goodell never turned over his personal cell phone during the Mueller investigation (Goodell and other league officials only gave over 'work' devices).
Not directly relevant, but worth noting given that there is no CBA-negotiated penalty around cell phone disclosure
Not directly relevant, but worth noting given that there is no CBA-negotiated penalty around cell phone disclosure
Once you put "Stephen A Smith" and "idiocy" in the same post, nothing else really needs to be said.
Once heard SAS open his NYC radio show with a 3-4 minute monologue of why a particular baseball trade/signing shouldn't or wouldn't take place. Problem is, the trade/signing had already been completed, announced, and reported the night before.OnWisc said:
FTR, I got that it was a joke. But ever since Seanberry started mocking these threads, it's like they want these to be some kind of beacon of seriousness. It's a crazy situation that's going to draw some crazy posts. Those crazy posts provide the entertainment between lawyer arguments. I never had a problem with it. But /tinfoil hat posts are the kinds of things people are latching onto to make the case that these threads are bad to begin with.Section15Box113 said:
We are familiar with this, of course. But when John Harrington -- or Bill Parcells -- wanted somebody roughed up, Will McDonough at least wielded the baseball bat with skill and often elegance. This is embarrassing. Standards have fallen.
Brady's phone just called me and apologized for its role in the matter.
(I know the joke has been recycled more than once.)
(I know the joke has been recycled more than once.)
SAS on WEEI:
Source says league will keep 4 games in place. And league expects that TB will ultimately end up serving all 4 games (following NFL's victory in court).
Source says league will keep 4 games in place. And league expects that TB will ultimately end up serving all 4 games (following NFL's victory in court).
SAS: Kraft caved to save BB. Dragging it out would have implicated BB.Section15Box113 said:
(sorry, thought it was clear that it was SAS saying it, since I replied to "SAS on WEEI"))
Omar's Wacky Neighbor said:
No he didn't. He caved because all the other owners were mad at him and he decided he wanted to be pals with them instead of protecting the interests of his team. Which was contemptible.
SAS is clearly being used here as the league's mouthpiece. What a tool.
Omar's Wacky Neighbor said:
Since Spygate had said he'd be banned if he was caught doing something similar again. Did I hear that right?
It's pretty clear he is being used by the NFL as a last resort to make the NFLPA cave some before announcing the penalty. The NFL is sure they will win, will keep the suspension, want to go to court, blah blah blah. Straight from the offices in NY.
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
No he didn't. He caved because he had no reasonable recourse against the NFL, and once it became clear he wasn't going to get a backdoor change to the suspension he walked away from a zillion dollar litigation that would distract the team and that he would lose. Which was smart.
If the NFL really wanted a mouthpiece, why SAS? Most people expect this is going to be handed down before Wednesday. This is him trying to make himself feel important with half assed information from a hack of a 'source'
Omar's Wacky Neighbor said:
lol wtf is going on?
He "caved" after the fucking Wells Report, which explicitly said BB had nothing to do with it. How would BB have been implicated???
The NFL FO is full of 10 year olds.
FFF was very adamant on the very same point. Mayve FFF's NFL friends have been feeding him as well.Section15Box113 said:
For what it's worth, spoke to my friend this morning and the word from his brother is that the NFL's wedge offer was rejected late yesterday by Brady and the NFLPA, and they now expect the suspension to be upheld in full (I realize this last is no big surprise).
Kraft and BB were cleared in the Wells Report.Omar's Wacky Neighbor said:
Kraft caved after that, and presumably to keep his seat at the Billionaire's Boys Club.
Gambler7 said:
Yep. I mean, if they're going to keep any suspension in place, what else are they going to say? We know we won't win, but we're keeping it anyway? No chance.
Then the part about opting not to implicate BB part was very curious. Why would the league protect him if they had the goods? Because they didn't want to sully his reputation further? Because they didn't want to have to suspend him? I'd think they either had evidence or they didn't. Not that they'd let him skate and go after TB and the draft picks instead.
As with much of this, the narrative being put forward makes very little sense.
Shelterdog said:
Completely disagree. He could have and should have sued the shit out of them. He should have taken on that litigation because his team was getting royally screwed and he should have stood up for it. Gone all Al Davis on them.