Suspending Belichick for the Super Bowl will do nothing to stop his rampant boundary pushing. He has unfathomable powers, don't ya know.
They're wrong, they're using gauge pressure in a formula that requires absolute pressure. See my zillion posts upthread. 0.4 PSI is exactly what I calculated if you screw up that distinction.jasail said:http://www.wcsh6.com/story/weather/2015/01/20/inflate-gate-weather-roll/22065861/
I haven't checked their math, so I'm working with the assumption that their conversions and calculations are accurate. If not, please taunt me mercilessly and adjust the post.
DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:If the NFL suspends BB from the game, the ratings will set records. The loss of a few random butthurt Pats fans will be more than offset by those who generally could care less about the game.
Each week, the NFL trots out its stylized barbarians amid increasing controversy largely due to the fact that the league simply can no longer cover-up the horrific things its employees do from the eyes of social media. And each week people continue to tune in even when they know they are cheering broken, violent men.
If you think outrage over this tempest in a hand-pump is going to hurt the Shield, you are sorely mistaken. The storyline is actually quite compelling...
I don't agree. People may think they won't watch. But I believe they will watch.teddykgb said:
It might set records in this Super Bowl, but I think it inflicts a lot of damage on the brand and would have seriously negative long term ramifications. This is the Super Bowl, changing its competitive balance for something as asinine as this starts to make a mockery of this event as serious athletic competition. And I don't think that serious damage in the NE market would be a good thing for the NFL. Either way, I don't think this would sink the league or anything, but you're moving the goal posts -- you originally said nobody here would be done with the NFL -- I don't think that's true, I think lots of people in New England would be done with the NFL.
SumnerH said:Links for WSCH/this precis? They made the gauge pressure/absolute pressure mistake; the PSI reduction should be higher than they're claiming.
Goodell cuts a deal with Kraft: BB suspended for the Super Bowl, but the Pats get to name a temporary replacement coach. Pats stun everyone by appointing obscure Div III coach Guy Incognito:Dernells Casket n Flagon said:I hope the NFL suspends Belichick for the game and he continues to coach right from the sideline hoodie and all with a Bobby Valentine mustache.
I understand this. My point is why one thing is against the rules while one is compliant even though both accomplish the same goal.SumnerH said:It's not really relevant whether it helps or not; part of the point of sports is that they have arbitrary rules. You play within those rules. There's tons of evidence that corking your bat doesn't help you hit any better, but it's still against the rules and we still punish people who do it.
DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:I don't agree. People may think they won't watch. But I believe they will watch.
Yes, suspending Belichick for this game would amount to nothing less than the NFL making a mockery of itself by choosing sides in the game.teddykgb said:
It might set records in this Super Bowl, but I think it inflicts a lot of damage on the brand and would have seriously negative long term ramifications. This is the Super Bowl, changing its competitive balance for something as asinine as this starts to make a mockery of this event as serious athletic competition. And I don't think that serious damage in the NE market would be a good thing for the NFL. Either way, I don't think this would sink the league or anything, but you're moving the goal posts -- you originally said nobody here would be done with the NFL -- I don't think that's true, I think lots of people in New England would be done with the NFL.
PBDWake said:PSIgate is the most ridiculous sporting experience of my life. I can't believe I'm this close to an ulcer over this.
geoduck no quahog said:I love SOSH and all, but...
One stupid quote from Shannon Sharpe results in 3 pages of horrific over-the-top prognostication?
Must be a slow day.
Theo said he had two connected sources saying BB getting suspendedgeoduck no quahog said:I love SOSH and all, but...
One stupid quote from Shannon Sharpe results in 3 pages of horrific over-the-top prognostication?
Must be a slow day.
Yeah, Theo doesn't run around spouting rumors, and he lives in NY, the NFL's backyard, but I don't see how this wouldn't have broken wide open elsewhere if he was able to find two independemt sources willing to talk. Not impossible, of course, but I'm not seeing it.HomeBrew1901 said:I have no issue with Theo, but I have a hard time believing that he has two independent sources that told him personally that BB was going to be suspended but no other media outlet knows about it at this point.
The science in this seems to make sense. This could explain how they got the ball to drop without touching it later on.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/2015/01/21/how-the-patriots-could-have-cheated-without-letting-air-out-the-ball/Eocm5m29nIlh0HRBjFWsYO/story.html
WayBackVazquez said:Mark Brunell on ESPN: Maybe now we know why Tom Brady is so good in cold weather.
Same here. Cant help but wonder if it's a miscommunication somewhere down the chain prior to them, a la The Sting "Place it on Lucky D".HomeBrew1901 said:I have no issue with Theo, but I have a hard time believing that he has two independent sources that told him personally that BB was going to be suspended but no other media outlet knows about it at this point.
Don Buddin's GS said:
Makes total sense--which is why the NFL won't believe it.
geoduck no quahog said:Only one thing makes sense to me:
The Refs fucked up...and now everyone's got to figure a way out of it for them.
2 Hours before the game, the Refs were handed the typically under-inflated Pats footballs. No one can prove they put a gauge on them. It's just as likely the felt them and said they're OK (probably what they do before every game). (BTW, how do you test for pressure in such a small bladder without letting some air out during the test?)
This conforms to Rodger's statement that "sometimes they just let it go".
"Testing Again" 5 minutes before game time sounds like total bullshit. How long would it take to test 12-24 balls? If they did anything, they probably just felt them again and said, "OK"
They handled the balls repeatedly during the first half and never removed one. Now the Refs are going to say, "We felt they were soft but wanted to wait until halftime"?
They supposedly re-inflated the balls during halftime and re-tested them. Did anyone witness them re-testing?
I want to know how they test the footballs.
I want some ex-Refs to break the fraternity silence and say what they do or don't do relative to pressure testing.
I'm afraid this whole thing is going to come down to Refs doing what they always do, but not being able to tell the truth.
Not saying it isn't possible, just that Theo knows right now, but no other outlet has even tweeted about it.dcmissle said:I find Theo's report of a suspension quite reasonable. As I indicated way upthread, door C gets us the electric chair -- just as that poor price was executed for desertion by Ike in WWIII for stuff many others did/: wrong place, wrong time, right guy.
At the very least we're coming within a pussy hair of a BB suspension. So much for LOL'img this being a major distraction and massive self inflicted wound.
Salva135 said:My point is that this is a story that doesn't look good, we're all scrambling to discount it, and the more news that comes out, the worse it looks.
Isn't the opposite true? Worse spiral etc over distance.WayBackVazquez said:
He also keeps bragging about how much farther and more accurately he can throw a 10.5 psi ball. Let's get his dumbass out there for a skills test.
There were 5 responses to the Sharpe quote. As others noted, most are responses to Theo's sources.geoduck no quahog said:I love SOSH and all, but...
One stupid quote from Shannon Sharpe results in 3 pages of horrific over-the-top prognostication?
Must be a slow day.
One of them is his neighbor's dog. The other is his neighbor, Omar. Incidentally, Omar has another neighbor who is a member here.Mystic Merlin said:Yeah, Theo doesn't run around spouting rumors, and he lives in NY, the NFL's backyard, but I don't see how this wouldn't have broken wide open elsewhere if he was able to find two independemt sources willing to talk. Not impossible, of course, but I'm not seeing it.
Are these people family members, Theo?
WayBackVazquez said:Mark Brunell on ESPN: Maybe now we know why Tom Brady is so good in cold weather.
Salva135 said:My point is that this is a story that doesn't look good, we're all scrambling to discount it, and the more news that comes out, the worse it looks.
bowiac said:Theo's a pretty straight shooter in my experience. This has me pretty worried.
In bad weather:Silverdude2167 said:Isn't the opposite true? Worse spiral etc over distance.
Alive!DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:One of them is his neighbor's dog. The other is his neighbor, Omar. Incidentally, Omar has another neighbor who is a member here.
Rudy Pemberton said:Wow, Mark Brunell is brutal.
Omar is dead.DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:One of them is his neighbor's dog. The other is his neighbor, Omar. Incidentally, Omar has another neighbor who is a member here.
DrewDawg said:
No one thinks he's lying, but just wondering why if he's got 2 sources on this, the rest of the internet has 0.
Marciano490 said:
The Pats are now two point favorites. Like I said, when the lines start moving the other way, I'll worry that sources are leaking.
Marciano490 said:
The Pats are now two point favorites. Like I said, when the lines start moving the other way, I'll worry that sources are leaking.
Source that makes you real sure of this?dcmissle said:I find Theo's report of a suspension quite reasonable. As I indicated way upthread, door C gets us the electric chair -- just as that poor prick was executed for desertion by Ike in WWIII for stuff many others did/: wrong place, wrong time, right guy.
At the very least we're coming within a pussy hair of a BB suspension. So much for LOL'img this being a major distraction and massive self inflicted wound.