#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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Adam Kilgore in WP takes aim at Godell and the NFL:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/01/26/tired-of-patriots-locker-room-attendants-and-deflategate-blame-the-nfl/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/01/26/tired-of-patriots-locker-room-attendants-and-deflategate-blame-the-nfl/
drleather2001 said:
Nah, you'd build in a secret little chute and deliver the doctored balls direct to the shitter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-YVt4gfquA&t=15
What an absurd event this has become. The simplest explanation is that the league and entire national media engaged in an actual witch hunt over a minor infraction that--whoops--didn't even happen, and allowed it to overshadow the biggest game in American sport.
How could that ever be the simplest explanation? Yet, here we are.
How could that ever be the simplest explanation? Yet, here we are.
Apologies if this was posted already. Toucher and Rich have sources that they say they trust.
https://twitter.com/Toucherandrich/status/560052498736898049
https://twitter.com/Toucherandrich/status/560052498736898049
So T&R's sources have discovered something that has been documented as likely for a week now (refs don't always gauge check balls)?
Hard hitting.
Hard hitting.
How would anyone know that the balls were underinflated if they weren't measured with a gauge? I suppose this could be true if the Patriots measured them at 12.0 and handed them to the refs, in which case the T&R "source" would be within the Patriots organization. If that is the case, how can this information be reconciled with BB's and RK's public statements that they have no knowledge of any rules infractions and that there were none? I don't think it can. So either the public statements were carefully shaded to hide what was going on, or they were lying, or T&R are full of it. I pick door #3.
Red(s)HawksFan said:
It's entirely possible that the Pats just got fed up with all the leaks and are throwing their cards on the table. They know the refs screwed up and that the league has nothing to go on and are laying it out there.
Seems like everything changed yesterday when the Glazer leak came out. Kraft finally said "fuck this I've had enough" and stopped toeing the company line.
I don't get the 90 sec tinfoil hat people. You guys realize that the ball boy doesn't have a gun to his head to adhere to 90 seconds, right? Why assume it takes 90 seconds for something that would normally, and should normally take much longer? After all if this is so important, and gives such an advantage (apparently with regards to fumbling), why would you have some ball boy lacky rush through this job in a damn bathroom, with a security camera right outside the door?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Glazer leaks were fabricated themselves.There is no way to verify this. of course, especially when the media covering the NFL has zero accountability.The Four Peters said:
Corsi said:
If this point gains enough traction, the narrative will just shift to: 'One way or another, the Patriots conspired to play with underinflated footballs. Whether they actually tampered with the balls after the refs checked them, or deliberately slipped them through the inspection at below-regulation pressure, the outcome was the same: a competitive advantage that will followt an organization already beset by allegations of cheating."
jsinger121 said:
It's funny, the sensationalist Post covers annoy me way less than any of the other anti-Pats media-- they at least treat the matter with the carnivalesque irreverence it deserves.
Because that scenario is more devious. I think it was Chris Carter who said something like "It's New England. Even the ball boys are the most prepared in the league." Utterly ridiculous, but what about this tempest in a teapot hadn't been?
This is the guy who honestly believed the balls the Patriots used weighed two pounds less than they were supposed to.weeba said:
snowmanny said:
There's no insecurity towards Boston. There are huge swaths of the tristate area that hate boston sports teams.
Scriblerus said:
Hey, that's probably true. Belichick probably quizzes them randomly in the halls, too.
"Hey kid....how many footballs fit in a mesh bag?"
"Umm...depends on how inflated they are?"
"good answer...get back to work"
Scriblerus said:
We've officially hit the closed loop thinking that characterizes the truly great, and truly ridiculous, conspiracy theories, in which every piece of exculpatory evidence is treated not as exculpatory at all, but as supporting evidence of the conspirators' evil deviousness.
I mean, when the ball boy going into the fucking men's room for a minute and a half, on camera, is treated as damning, there's nothing that can be said that will succeed as pushback.
Ugh. Just when you thought this story was effectively debunked for good....
@ProFootballTalk: Can a bag of footballs be deflated in 90 seconds? One source says it would be "easy." http://t.co/hCSbu96Koc
@ProFootballTalk: Can a bag of footballs be deflated in 90 seconds? One source says it would be "easy." http://t.co/hCSbu96Koc
Rusty13 said:
Over? Nothing is over until we decided it is! You think it was over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Signed, Bluto Florio.
In theory, the ballboy could have used a magic spell to deflate the balls as well. Time to weigh him against a duck.
Corsi said:
It doesn't make it "difficult to declare innocence" at all.
This is nuts. The kid could have been in the toilet for 20 seconds and people would be saying the same thing.
I mean, you're handling a bag of 12 balls; you have to deflate each of them to the exact amount (from an unknown starting point; could be 12.5, could be 13, etc...) without A) over deflating or B) mixing up the already-tampered balls with the non tampered balls.
In 90 seconds.
That's, like, Marine-puts-his-gun-together-blindfolded-level shit. And, again, for what?
The thread is going kind of fast so it's a few pages back but even at several hundred pages, the c word doesn't really seem necessary.
LogansDad said:
I'm not a Pats fan, and, even though I'm a Jets fan, I'm not an extreme Pats hater (NFL has always been something to watch while I wait for basketball and baseball seasons to start). But, as CT native from the Hartford area, our experience with Kraft takes what he says with a grain of salt.
Since my Quote function may not be working (as others have found to be their case), let me begin by indicating that I'm responding to Don Buddin at #10519. Please sympathize with me that I've retired to Baltimore (very much remaining a Patriots fan) and so I was tuned into WJZ-FM about a half hour ago when a caller reported (that it had been reported that) the locker room/ball attendant was ...Steve Belichick, of all people. I had imagined that I have been doing well in keeping up with this enormous thread, and I do believe I'm still seeing references to a not publicly identified attendant. Accordingly I'm now wondering whether the next silliness-turn of this story is going to be the positive public-identification of the attendant - and I'm wondering if our Don Buddin picked the name Stevie out of his Tochas or whether he had heard someone toss this onto the flame at some point.
The NFL's only official statement is that balls tested at halftime were not in compliance, right? And claims of pregame testing were all in leak form? I've lost track.
bernardsamuel said:
The thought occurred to me as well. It would be spectacular if this were the case---heads all over the East Coast Football Whiner landscape would simply explode.
Reading that PFT piece of garbage: the media is now expecting the Pats to prove innocence beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt. Since that's never going to happen to the mediots satisfaction, the Pats will always be "cheaters" in the minds of the ESPN blogosphere.
Kraft should be giving Goodell an earful every chance he gets.
Kraft should be giving Goodell an earful every chance he gets.
