#DFG: Canceling the Noise

Is there any level of suspension that you would advise Tom to accept?

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dcmissle

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My guess on Paul Weiss' fees (Wells and Co) before all is said and done, $2 million.

This does not mean that you should encourage your kids to be lawyers. They should be lawyers only if they love the law and have a string of altruism in their fiber. There are more efficient ways of earning lots of money.

Glad we are back on line. Go Pats. I would give my left nut for a thoroughly convincing win.
 
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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
Well, yes, I have no idea.  I had never heard of the ideal gas law until a few days ago.  
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Wonder no more. The ideal gas law is just that; a scientific law. In science, things don't called a law unless they are absolutely, universally applicable without any doubt whatsoever. It doesn't matter if the gas is in a distant star cluster or the inside of an NFL football, nor does it even matter if that gas is helium, air, or farts. All of it will adhere to the ideal gas law.

Where people are fucking up is in the variables that go into the calculation. Specifically, the pressure component.
 
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Section15Box113 said:
Too bad.

Was getting ready to pop some popcorn.
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Might still be popcorn worthy, if you think you'll enjoy BB, Brady and company stonewalling the mediot brigade as they ask question after question about ballghazi.
 
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1200 an hour? I really should have finished law school.
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A few years back, my brother in FL got stiffed by a client, so my brother sued.  When the judge saw the hourly my brother was suing for, the judge: admonished my brother for charging/suing for too little; almost double the hourly in the suit; and immediately ordered the client to pay up.
 
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dcmissle said:
My guess on Paul Weiss' fees (Wells and Co) before all is said and done, $2 million.

This does not mean that you should encourage your kids to be lawyers. They should be lawyers only if they love the law and have a string of altruism in their fiber. There are more efficient ways of earning lots of money.

Glad we are back on line. Go Pats. I would give my left nut for a thoroughly convincing win.
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No way it's $2M to investigate this. No way. That's 50 full 40 hour billable weeks for a $1K/hour attorney.
 
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ESPN has been harping on our fumbling numbers all day. Didn't we fumble twice against the Ravens?
 
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Neil DeGrasse Tyson bungles science of Deflate-gate scandal
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Nice.

One curious point:

HeadSmart found that the pressure in the balls declined an average of 1.8 PSI, which is remarkably close to the numbers bandied about in media reports of the Patriots’ footballs (which, to be clear, doesn’t necessarily exonerate New England).
Why wouldn't it exonerate the Pats? If the studies consistently predict the outcome observed then why should we believe foul play was even possible? It's not like the Pats would have filled the balls with cold air and then gone out of their way to manually deflate them just to break a rule for the sake of it.

What am I missing? What else is possible? Is he just being overly cautious in case Belichick and HeadSmart bungled the experiments?
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If this Glazer "report" is even remotely accurate, it does explain some of the comments from TheoShmeo's contacts, some of the other comments from around the league as well as the use of the word "distraught".  I know there has been a lot of talk of sour grapes in this thread (and elsewhere) but you could see how folks around the NFL would be legitimately pissed if there was something incriminating and the Patriots were this defiant.  
 
That said, its hard to fathom how Belichick could give that press conference the other day unless this ball-boy report is inaccurate or he simply didn't know about it (and if its the latter, he will still be killed for it and rightly so).  Like many here, I tend to think that there are people across the league and country who are simply jealous of the Patriots success over the years.  However its not beyond the realm that someone in the organization may have actually done something shady here.  
 
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amarshal2 said:
Nice.

One curious point:

HeadSmart found that the pressure in the balls declined an average of 1.8 PSI, which is remarkably close to the numbers bandied about in media reports of the Patriots’ footballs (which, to be clear, doesn’t necessarily exonerate New England).
Why wouldn't it exonerate the Pats? If the studies consistently predict the outcome observed then why should we believe foul play was even possible? It's not like the Pats would have filled the balls with cold air and then gone out of their way to manually deflate them just to break a rule for the sake of it.

What am I missing? What else is possible? Is he just being overly cautious in case Belichick and HeadSmart bungled the experiments?
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What HeadSmart did doesn't prove what actually happened in Foxboro, but it confirms it is possible.
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The NFL probably gets a massive discount on legal services in return for the publicity provided by the representation. In fact, many companies are now moving to a lump-sum model where the client pays an agreed-upon amount for a given engagement.  Given what a skinflint Goodell apparently is, there's no chance they are paying full billing rates on this.
 
By the way, my favorite line of the day is from ProFootballTalk article where they imply that tape showing the ballboy moving the balls from the refs' locker room to "another part of the stadium" is, in and of itself, damning.  How did they expect the balls would get to the field of play?  Levitation?
 
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Kraft addressing the "air pressure matter" on NFLN.

Edit: He believes 'unconditionally' nothing was done wrong. He is pissed the integrity of Bill, Tom, and his team were questioned. He welcomes the actual investigation as opposed to media leaks that led to people jumping to conclusions. He 'expects' apologies once the Wells investigation concludes no wrongdoing.


DROP THE MIKE.
 
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Harry Hooper said:
 
What HeadSmart did doesn't prove what actually happened in Foxboro, but it confirms it is possible.
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It didn't confirm it is possible. It confirmed it was the expected outcome of the situation the Pats found themselves in. If we find out the pats intentionally deflated the footballs then 10.5 is too high for the rumored lowest football. It would have to be lower. Or we'd have to learn that the officials pumped the balls above 12.5. But, that's all I can think of.
 
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"circumstantial leaked evidence" = bad phrase. You're elevating it by calling it evidence.
 
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Kraft says that if NFL proves nothing, there better be an apology.
 
 
 
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DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
That said, its hard to fathom how Belichick could give that press conference the other day unless this ball-boy report is inaccurate or he simply didn't know about it (and if its the latter, he will still be killed for it and rightly so).  Like many here, I tend to think that there are people across the league and country who are simply jealous of the Patriots success over the years.  However its not beyond the realm that someone in the organization may have actually done something shady here.  
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Right.  Unless he has lost his mind, it doesn't make an iota of sense for him to do the Saturday presser unless he was sure the evidence was going to clear him.  
 
I'm going to assume the ballboy went into the bathroom to use the toilet until there's a shred of evidence pointing elsewhere.  I'm convinced this is all being engineered by the Jets to distract the Pats, which I realize is a ridiculous conspiracy theory.
 
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Ferm Sheller said:
No way it's $2M to investigate this. No way. That's 50 full 40 hour billable weeks for a $1K/hour attorney.
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You are an optimistic individual.
 
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Kraft: He believes 'unconditionally' nothing was done wrong. He is pissed the integrity of Bill, Tom, and his team were questioned. He welcomes the actual investigation as opposed to media leaks that led to people jumping to conclusions. He 'expects' apologies once the Wells investigation concludes no wrongdoing.


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