Danilo Gallinari to the Celtics
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Don't like the defensive issues he'll create. I'll withhold judgement until I see what TJ Warren gets and see how many years this Gallinari deal is.
That's the same deal Bruce Brown got from Denver, so presumably the Celtics wanted Gallo more than Brown.
That's the full MLE, so all they have left is the vet minimum and the TPE.
My brother is a fan:
That's the full MLE, so all they have left is the vet minimum and the TPE.
My brother is a fan:
- Unlimited shooting range w a quick release
- Bilateral ability 
- Far more comfortable in the post than Horford (my only Horford disappointment)
- Still athletic and definitely more elastic than what you'd expect from a 33yo 6'10" Italian
- Comfortable generating his own looks...can penetrate when he wants. That def checks a box for the C's and will help in the last 5 mins.
Funny note: I watched a few videos of him looking for evidence of different skills, and a good chunk of his highlights were against the Celtics - positively abused Grant Williams (so much so that GW will be happy to have him on the same team ), but also got Nesmith, RW, Tatum on other plays.
Here’s the thing about the defense…Grant Williams was basically a 30mpg player in the playoffs, 24mpg during the season, playing good D but then like 17mpg (a lot of them rough minutes) in the Finals because he was really struggling to keep up on both ends.
Gallo may impact theD while he is out there but the guy can help the O no matter what.
I worry most about his health, but he is a quality NBA player that fits what they want to do on O. Needed more NBA guys to contribute minutes and they’ve added a legit one here.
And at the very least, he is big. Already a big mobile team gets even bigger.
Gallo may impact theD while he is out there but the guy can help the O no matter what.
I worry most about his health, but he is a quality NBA player that fits what they want to do on O. Needed more NBA guys to contribute minutes and they’ve added a legit one here.
And at the very least, he is big. Already a big mobile team gets even bigger.
Possible Brown wanted Nugs more than CelticsThat's the same deal Bruce Brown got from Denver, so presumably the Celtics wanted Gallo more than Brown.
That's the full MLE, so all they have left is the vet minimum and the TPE.
My brother is a fan:
- Unlimited shooting range w a quick release- Bilateral ability- Far more comfortable in the post than Horford (my only Horford disappointment)- Still athletic and definitely more elastic than what you'd expect from a 33yo 6'10" Italian- Comfortable generating his own looks...can penetrate when he wants. That def checks a box for the C's and will help in the last 5 mins. Funny note: I watched a few videos of him looking for evidence of different skills, and a good chunk of his highlights were against the Celtics - positively abused Grant Williams (so much so that GW will be happy to have him on the same team ), but also got Nesmith, RW, Tatum on other plays.
Agreed, and the Cs can limit his minutes during the regular season to make sure he's rested for the playoffs. See Horford, Al.
I guess maybe the Celtics wanted more, or Brown saw a better fit for himself in terms of opportunity in Denver. Brown is only 25, so he has reason to worry about the next deal thus minutes and role may matter moreThat's the same deal Bruce Brown got from Denver, so presumably the Celtics wanted Gallo more than Brown.
That's the full MLE, so all they have left is the vet minimum and the TPE.
My brother is a fan:
- Unlimited shooting range w a quick release- Bilateral ability- Far more comfortable in the post than Horford (my only Horford disappointment)- Still athletic and definitely more elastic than what you'd expect from a 33yo 6'10" Italian- Comfortable generating his own looks...can penetrate when he wants. That def checks a box for the C's and will help in the last 5 mins. Funny note: I watched a few videos of him looking for evidence of different skills, and a good chunk of his highlights were against the Celtics - positively abused Grant Williams (so much so that GW will be happy to have him on the same team ), but also got Nesmith, RW, Tatum on other plays.
I would think it’s because Brown saw an opening for more minutes and, more importantly, more meaningful minutes in Denver.
It’s entirely conceivable that he could be a part of their crunch time line-up. With Boston that would be much more unlikely
I like the move, though I'd have preferred 1 year.
Gallo is big, he can shoot, he can attack closeouts some, and he's a great FT shooter.
He's a below-average defender, but I don't think he's a huge liability, he at least generally contains a little
Gallo is big, he can shoot, he can attack closeouts some, and he's a great FT shooter.
He's a below-average defender, but I don't think he's a huge liability, he at least generally contains a little
Works.
That said, Gallo, Brown, Porter, Payton et al and the vast majority of these guys are just role players. Its highly unlikely that selecting one versus another is going to determine your shot at another banner. Even if the player you failed to choose hits the game winner in the Finals...but I am a process person. I get that results folks look at it differently.
That said, Gallo, Brown, Porter, Payton et al and the vast majority of these guys are just role players. Its highly unlikely that selecting one versus another is going to determine your shot at another banner. Even if the player you failed to choose hits the game winner in the Finals...but I am a process person. I get that results folks look at it differently.
View: https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1542883598004543489
Brown likely had offers over the TPE for those wondering, he went to DEN for the role
Brown likely had offers over the TPE for those wondering, he went to DEN for the role
One vs. another, no, but you don’t want to end up with none of them, or one who doesn’t actually fit.
They quite possible lost the Finals because they needed one or two more of guys like this, and now they have one. Feels like a process win to me.
Gallo had a game a few years ago where he single handedly wrecked us. Is this a Brad Doc Rivers move???
Agreed. That said, I feel like Stevens and Udoka have demonstrated that they have a pretty good idea about fit targets and usage. I know others are deeply concerned that they will mess the roster up but for me, at least, they have earned that trust after this past season - especially in lieu of the pressure they were under to start the year. They didn't panic - they continued to execute.
Certainly would have liked to have had him in the playoffs last year instead of just White, Pritchard, Grant off the bench.
Really like this, particularly for the price. Just adding another guy to extend the rotation from 7.5 to 8.5 players is a huge win.
Sure there are some weaknesses, but who could you sign for these dollars that wouldn't have some question marks?
Sure there are some weaknesses, but who could you sign for these dollars that wouldn't have some question marks?
Think about all of the open 3's that guys like Horford, Grant, even Theis get playing with Tatum and Brown. Now think about some of those open looks going to Gallo. Really nice bench piece, even if he's old. Adding scoring to that unit was much needed.
If the C's can find another quality player with the Fournier TPE, they're going to be looking really dangerous and much deeper than this year's squad.
If the C's can find another quality player with the Fournier TPE, they're going to be looking really dangerous and much deeper than this year's squad.
He extends the bench, hits 3s, and hopefully plays enough in the regular season to learn the D , save legs, and contribute meaningfully when the real season begins.
We have needed a Bogdanovic or Gallinari for years. Just have to hope he still has it at this age but he should help smooth out those 10+ minute stretches where nobody can score when Tatum is off
Yeah, this signing either gets Gallo a lot of wide open 3s or gets J&J 1 on 1s because Gallo's man can't come help.
Either way it's the kind of sharpshooting off the bench we basically haven't had since... what, Eddie House?
Either way it's the kind of sharpshooting off the bench we basically haven't had since... what, Eddie House?
I don't love Gallinari's game, but I like the fit on the Celtics. Healthy Timelord and Horford can cover for a lot defensively, and Gallo will get a billion open looks.
Assuming Grant and Pritchard hang around, Celtics now have three guys coming off the bench who shoot around 40% on their threes who will be viable in different matchups. Gallo obviously the best of the bunch, though Grant should get situational minutes because he's the better defender.
Assuming Grant and Pritchard hang around, Celtics now have three guys coming off the bench who shoot around 40% on their threes who will be viable in different matchups. Gallo obviously the best of the bunch, though Grant should get situational minutes because he's the better defender.
I wonder if the C's are basically saying something like this: "Our starting unit is going to be a historic defense that shuts you down and is dangerous enough on offense to build a top-tier point differential, and our bench is going the opposite direction, going to stretch the floor, focus on one of the Jays driving/dishing and either finishing at the rim or kicking out to PP, Grant, and Gallinari (maybe eventually Huerter)".
Exactly this. I would add Marcus Smart into the above trifecta as well.
If we get Gallo taking 3-5 3pts per game — combined with hopefully improved Pritchard who shot 40% from January onward, and even dare I say it — a Nesmith whose mind sees an NBA game that is 30% slower than what he has seen it at the last two years — that’s a pretty significant improvement to an offense that overall was very solid.
To hell with South Beach. Boston’s North End can be an attraction to a free agent too.
Gallo gives this team a three point shooting bucket getter off the bench, at a reasonable salary. Maybe even play him a little against bench fives, in a second unit of a Jay, Grant, Gallo, PP, and White, and bomb away.
Gallo gives this team a three point shooting bucket getter off the bench, at a reasonable salary. Maybe even play him a little against bench fives, in a second unit of a Jay, Grant, Gallo, PP, and White, and bomb away.
One thing to me on Gallo is... worst case he eats a lot of regular season minutes, because even if we find that his D is so bad teams can attack him in the playoffs and make him unplayable.. teams don't do that in the regular season, and he'll take minutes off the plate of Al and Tatum, and.... he's the kind of guy you can throw on a bench unit and let him cook with a lead. We blew a lot of leads partially (not losses) that lead to the starters going back in, partly because nobody on the bench could get offense
Gallinari's +/- Per 100 poss OnCourt & On-Off over his career (and recently) have been very good. Probably implies a player that isn't as bad as his defensive reputation.
They paid Juancho more last season and got off that deal, so not much downside here
Like most of you, I would have liked Brown more but the role wasn't available (so not an option)
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gallida01.html
They paid Juancho more last season and got off that deal, so not much downside here
Like most of you, I would have liked Brown more but the role wasn't available (so not an option)
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gallida01.html
Yeah, this is a good point. We have recency bias about not having enough guys on the bench who could see the floor in the finals but the real problem was that we only had 8 NBA-caliber players on the roster and Pritchard is small. If we had been in a better position in February we could have made more trades to fill out the bench, or we might have attracted buyouts. And, if we had been clearly out of the play-in in February we could have rested the top guys more.
Gallo might be a good matchup against a first or second-round opponent and give everyone more of a breather. I'd love to go into March with at least 10 NBA-caliber players.
Yeah, a top 3 off the bench of Grant, Gallo, and White is pretty solid. Pritchard/Theis are playable as well so the team is now about 10 deep. Add one more playable piece with the TPE for depth and you’ve got a team that can absorb TL/Horford regular season minutes/games restrictions.
Yeah, I was going to include Marcus and Pritchard, but stuck with the bigs since it's a little different role. But yeah, 3-5 3pt attempts per game from Gallo is a big upgrade for that 2nd unit. And now Brogdon? Love what Brad is doing right now.Exactly this. I would add Marcus Smart into the above trifecta as well.
If we get Gallo taking 3-5 3pts per game — combined with hopefully improved Pritchard who shot 40% from January onward, and even dare I say it — a Nesmith whose mind sees an NBA game that is 30% slower than what he has seen it at the last two years — that’s a pretty significant improvement to an offense that overall was very solid.
I think the idea, or at least the hope, is that they can put out 5-man units with Gallinari that can at least hold their own defensively, allowing them to get his offense into the game. That will certainly work in the regular season, and maybe to some degree in the playoffs.
I was thinking that his stats are going to go down because he won't have the multiple games against the Cs by which to pad his numbers. He really did wreck the Cs at least twice in recent memory.
Brad is rightfully traumatized by his last few seasons as coach when the depth fell off a cliff after 5 or 6 guys with only rookie projects or busts after that. I don't blame him.
Gallo may be mediocre, but he's a vet who knows how to play and can shoot. A lot better for a contending team to turn to someone like him for 15-20 minutes than Romeo Langford, Semi Ojeleye, Carson Edwards et al.
Gallo may be mediocre, but he's a vet who knows how to play and can shoot. A lot better for a contending team to turn to someone like him for 15-20 minutes than Romeo Langford, Semi Ojeleye, Carson Edwards et al.
Vets are an especially good thing come playoff time. I want everyone load managed all year.
Watching the highlight tape the dude has mastered the Larry Bird three point dagger bank shot. Love this pickup and the Brogdon heist from Indy.