Dalbec sent down to AAA (recalled to BOS on 4/12)

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As someone who always rooted for Bobby D, this is the absolute right move and Romy is a much better fit for this roster right now. I really hope that he can go to a small market team and get a chance. A change of scenery is well overdue and it was getting tough to watch.
 

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As someone who always rooted for Bobby D, this is the absolute right move and Romy is a much better fit for this roster right now.
Unless, of course, Romy doesn't hit any better in the majors than Dalbec
 

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I am always on the record in liking Bobby D. Hope he gets hot and returns to help.
 

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Romy and Reyes have both spent time there. Plus Refsnyder when he comes back.
 

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Dalbec is still a better defensive 3B than Reyes, and a better 1B than all 3. But yes, Romy is a better SS. So now it seems Story's injury hurt Bobby so that's rough, given the respective salaries. Do wish I could have seen him at Fenway. I do kind of think it's the glasses/eye sight. He could rake in 20-21.
 

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Bobby hurt Bobby, Story didn't have a thing to do with it. Eyesight is as good a guess as any but they needed to do something cause he's been a black hole, and now's the time to do it coming off the road trip.
 

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As someone who always rooted for Bobby D, this is the absolute right move and Romy is a much better fit for this roster right now. I really hope that he can go to a small market team and get a chance. A change of scenery is well overdue and it was getting tough to watch.
I wish Dalbek well on a small market NL team, too. Edit: Either Dalbec or DalbeK ...D'oh
 
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I saw this coming Saturday night in the game thread. I feel bad for Bobby on a human level, but he's had every chance, and this just makes too much sense, all things considered.

I think we might see Dalbec go down as soon as they're back in Boston, and we end up with both Hamilton and Romy for the homestand.
 

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Dalbec is still a better defensive 3B than Reyes, and a better 1B than all 3. But yes, Romy is a better SS. So now it seems Story's injury hurt Bobby so that's rough, given the respective salaries. Do wish I could have seen him at Fenway. I do kind of think it's the glasses/eye sight. He could rake in 20-21.
Do they not check players eyesight and find the absolutely best possible solution? It seems crazy that that would be an issue they couldn't correct.
 

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Dalbec is still a better defensive 3B than Reyes, and a better 1B than all 3. But yes, Romy is a better SS. So now it seems Story's injury hurt Bobby so that's rough, given the respective salaries. Do wish I could have seen him at Fenway. I do kind of think it's the glasses/eye sight. He could rake in 20-21.
He raked in 20, though that could have been small sample size luck with his .394 babip in only 92 PAs, or pitchers not knowing how to attack him. He really didn't rake in 21 except against lefties, overall he was a slightly above average hitter, which isn't nearly good enough for his putrid defense that year as anything but a lefty specialist.

You also have no earthly idea if he's a better defender than either of them, though small samples would actually show he has the worst DRS and UZR at 3rd of any of them
 

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He’ll always have that weak fly ball to RF yesterday. At least it didn’t end on a K.
Thanks for the LOL. I like Bobby, but all 9 of his at-bats made me sad. May my last memory of him include an actual batted ball.
 

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Do they not check players eyesight and find the absolutely best possible solution? It seems crazy that that would be an issue they couldn't correct.
"They" can check all they want, but the player has to go along with it. There's a history of players choosing not to wear corrective lenses for whatever reason. IIRC, Jim Rice needed glasses toward the end of his career but was loathe to wear them on the field. Pretty sure there's a thread or two in the archives here bemoaning Will Middlebrooks being resistant to wearing glasses or contacts. We don't know if Dalbec's issue is his eyesight (he seems to hit okay in AAA and spring training where the lighting is often worse). But if it is, it may not necessarily be a matter of it not being diagnosed.
 

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"They" can check all they want, but the player has to go along with it. There's a history of players choosing not to wear corrective lenses for whatever reason. IIRC, Jim Rice needed glasses toward the end of his career but was loathe to wear them on the field. Pretty sure there's a thread or two in the archives here bemoaning Will Middlebrooks being resistant to wearing glasses or contacts. We don't know if Dalbec's issue is his eyesight (he seems to hit okay in AAA and spring training where the lighting is often worse). But if it is, it may not necessarily be a matter of it not being diagnosed.
I’m not disbelieving you, but it seems crazy that a hitter of all things -- a declining hitter -- would be reluctant to fix their eyesight. It’s like legal steroids, with no side effects and benefits for life that extend beyond baseball.
 
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Damnit. I was once on the Dalbec bandwagon but am so far off now.... this can only mean Devers is likely heading to the DL
Hopefully either or and not both. If Dalbec is played with any sort of regularity and continues to shit himself it might be time to cut bait. I understand that he's basically still around because he has options, but the man himself is increasingly becoming less of an option.
 

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.700 with him (all on road, all losses by 1 run)
.000 without him (all at home)

Let’s get back to winning!
 

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Dalbec's the poster child for "looks good in a uniform" and "looks good standing up at the plate"....but cannot play at the big league level. Sad, really, like a lot of you, have always rooted for him to turn it around.
 

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0 for his last 26 with 16 K. I get that he's here because of all the injuries and he's pretty much the last option on the 40. But at some point you have to find someone better to put on the 40.
 

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Do they not check players eyesight and find the absolutely best possible solution? It seems crazy that that would be an issue they couldn't correct.
They can correct a person's vision back to normal.

I'm blind as a bat, but can wear contacts that let me see slightly better than 20-20.

What they can't do is give you the super human eyesight that lets you see the spin on a major league pitch in flight.
 

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I feel for the guy as well, but this is another example of what happens when you hold on to prospects too long. After his first season, he should’ve been traded for the best package Bloom could have gotten for him.

He was blocked by both Devers and Casas, so he’s always been surplus.
 

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I feel for the guy as well, but this is another example of what happens when you hold on to prospects too long. After his first season, he should’ve been traded for the best package Bloom could have gotten for him.

He was blocked by both Devers and Casas, so he’s always been surplus.
Unfortunately Casas hadn't yet broken out by the time Dalbec was at his best.
 

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Unfortunately Casas hadn't yet broken out by the time Dalbec was at his best.
It wasn’t that hard to see a DH and backup 1B/3B Rh Powerbat after his ‘21 fall campaign hitting low BA 30 HR season though and I don’t fault anyone for holding on to him.
 

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Unfortunately Casas hadn't yet broken out by the time Dalbec was at his best.
Agreed. Casas was doing well in the minors and it should have been assumed that he was the real prospect. You trade Dalbec and sign either Brandon Belt or Dan Vogelbach to a one-year deal to keep the position warm for him. If things go well, you have one of those guys split the position with Casas from July on.

Edit: you could have even resigned Schwarber to play there for a bit. Or if you wanted to, maybe Mitch Moreland could have been brought back.

Finding a replacement level first baseman should not have been too hard. Especially if you trust your scouts and what they thought of Casas and Dalbec. I mean there were people on this board who didn’t really believe in Dalbec, I’m sure there were scouts in the Sox FO that saw the same things we did.

Unfortunately Bobby Dalbec was the prototypical sell high guy.
 

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haven’t we beat this horse dead yet? Yeah, a lot of us are rooting for him, and yeah he is in a terrible spot offensively and probably needs a change of scenery. But Devers had been banged up and there were 2 LHP in this lest series and he didn’t suck at 3B. Maybe it’s time to stop harping on the obvious when it comes to his bat.
 

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haven’t we beat this horse dead yet? Yeah, a lot of us are rooting for him, and yeah he is in a terrible spot offensively and probably needs a change of scenery. But Devers had been banged up and there were 2 LHP in this lest series and he didn’t suck at 3B. Maybe it’s time to stop harping on the obvious when it comes to his bat.
I’ll stop beating the horse when he stops playing. I know he’s only here until Devers feels better and Refsnyder is done with his rehab. But when they sent him down last time it was presumed to be permanent and within a week he was back and he’s played in the last 3 games. Shit happens. I don’t want to see him back in June. Find a better option.
 
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I’ll stop beating the horse when he stops playing. I know he’s only here until Devers feels better and Refsnyder is done with his rehab. But when they sent him down last time it was presumed to be permanent and within a week he was back and he’s played in the last 3 games. Shit happens. I don’t want to see him back in June. Find a better option.
I agree with this entire post, but sarcastic one-liners on the main board made by anyone are going to understandably and properly get pushback. I get the frustration and share it, but those kind of posts tend to breed more of the same, which is not a recipe for good discourse.

Add everything that you put in this response except the first sentence to your original post and nobody blinks.
 

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I agree with this entire post, but sarcastic one-liners on the main board made by anyone are going to understandably and properly get pushback. I get the frustration and share it, but those kind of posts tend to breed more of the same, which is not a recipe for good discourse.

Add everything that you put in this response except the first sentence to your original post and nobody blinks.
That’s fair. I’ll do better.
 

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They can correct a person's vision back to normal.

I'm blind as a bat, but can wear contacts that let me see slightly better than 20-20.

What they can't do is give you the super human eyesight that lets you see the spin on a major league pitch in flight.
According to https://appliedvisionbaseball.com/do-baseball-players-have-better-eyesight/#:~:text=On average, baseball players have,Kevin Youkilis at 20/11.
To paraphrase: On average, baseball players have visual acuity of 20/12. While some are even better, the best possible is believed to 20/8. People with 20/20 vision can wear corrective lenses or have laser surgery to get their eyesight to the 20/12 level but if your eyesight is at the 20/25 level, you probably can't get down to that level. However, having 20/12 vision won't guaranty one's becoming a professional baseball player as other things like hand-eye co-ordination and a brain that can handle that high speed. There are also risks involved in eye surgery.