I think that MLBtv now includes the pregame and post game shows. I'm blacked out from Sox games on MLBtv so I'll check one of the out of market games when I get a chance
Cutting The Cord on Cable/Satellite TV Service?
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Pregame always
Post game is intermittent. Like can get a portion of it or nothing. But im usually going to bed anyway.
The pregame is newish so the post game may be more common.
I got YouTube TV on a 21-day free trial to keep ABC and ESPN while the contract impasse with Spectrum continues. The sign-up was pretty complicated for a tech dweeb like me, but I muscled through with only a little cussing at the poor CSR who was struggling to help me.
(Pro tip… whenever I encounter a CSR with a Philippines accent, I dust off the two words of Tagalog I know — Salamat po — which means “thank you very much” and it works wonders, or at least disarms them. Sadly, I think the YouTube CSRs were India-based)
I vented at length about the Spectrum/Disney negotiation in the (not-entirely-properly-named) “ESPN is Pathetic” thread. Bottom line is that while Spectrum may justifiably think Disney is pricing their services too aggressively, and may be justified in dropping the services, they’re continuing the cable providers horrific long-term disregard for customers or selling the value of the cable bundle. Disney offered to allow Spectrum to continue to carry the services under the terms of the current agreement while negotiations continued, but Spectrum declined. Disney has taken a relatively high road in PR during the negotiation (“we value the Spectrum partnership and want them to pay market rates”), while Psectrum is going scorched earth (”Disney is making you pay for content you don’t want.”). That point of view is kind of technically true, but intentionally misses a lot of nuance about how pricing is affected by the entire ecosystem, not just Disney.
And I read at least one report that Spectrum is demanding in negotiations the right to provide Disney+ to customers rolled into the price for the Disney cable brands. Which is ludicrous.
I think Spectrum is dropping the big one on the cable industry, and in the process will blow their own foot off. If ESPN isnt back in 21 days, I’ll be hunting for the best streaming bundle I can find… although I’ll very much miss New York 1 news.
(Pro tip… whenever I encounter a CSR with a Philippines accent, I dust off the two words of Tagalog I know — Salamat po — which means “thank you very much” and it works wonders, or at least disarms them. Sadly, I think the YouTube CSRs were India-based)
I vented at length about the Spectrum/Disney negotiation in the (not-entirely-properly-named) “ESPN is Pathetic” thread. Bottom line is that while Spectrum may justifiably think Disney is pricing their services too aggressively, and may be justified in dropping the services, they’re continuing the cable providers horrific long-term disregard for customers or selling the value of the cable bundle. Disney offered to allow Spectrum to continue to carry the services under the terms of the current agreement while negotiations continued, but Spectrum declined. Disney has taken a relatively high road in PR during the negotiation (“we value the Spectrum partnership and want them to pay market rates”), while Psectrum is going scorched earth (”Disney is making you pay for content you don’t want.”). That point of view is kind of technically true, but intentionally misses a lot of nuance about how pricing is affected by the entire ecosystem, not just Disney.
And I read at least one report that Spectrum is demanding in negotiations the right to provide Disney+ to customers rolled into the price for the Disney cable brands. Which is ludicrous.
I think Spectrum is dropping the big one on the cable industry, and in the process will blow their own foot off. If ESPN isnt back in 21 days, I’ll be hunting for the best streaming bundle I can find… although I’ll very much miss New York 1 news.
A friend told me to look into Cue Streaming today. He has been using it for quite some time. His mother heard about it on a Christian podcast she listens to (she's in her 70s) and told him. This seems VERY scammy to me, but I figured I'd see if anyone here knew anything. $59.99/month for tons of channels. I got rid of cable awhile ago and only want it for occasional weather events or local news. Could care less about most everything else on cable. I told him I was just going to get an OTA antenna. If this is legit, I'm definitely interested.
It's just a customized IPTV with pirate streams built into the interface and a jacked up price.
Since you mentioned it, let's talk about pirate streams.
Anybody else using these? I found one that's pretty reliable. We have no cable at the Coachster-Dome, but I get to see all the sporting events I want (except the Tour de France, but I didn't look very hard). Yeah, the signal gets dropped sometimes, and I'm over a minute behind the live action, but you really can't beat the cost.
Thoughts?
Anybody else using these? I found one that's pretty reliable. We have no cable at the Coachster-Dome, but I get to see all the sporting events I want (except the Tour de France, but I didn't look very hard). Yeah, the signal gets dropped sometimes, and I'm over a minute behind the live action, but you really can't beat the cost.
Thoughts?
I enjoyed the quad box for Sunday Ticket yesterday. I want to experiment with PiP for 2 boxes next week. The issue I'm having is that I can't find PiP on YTTV. The steps they give you online just say click on your profile icon, then settings then enable PiP, but I can't find where in the settings PiP is located. Can anyone help? I feel like I'm missing something easy. TIA
PIP is only available for mobile devices that run Android. In that if you're on a Pixel phone (or Samsung or Google tablet) and you turn PIP on, you can keep the floating YTTV window in the corner while using other apps.
It isn't something available on streaming devices or even on iPads, I believe. It is very limited.
Thanks for that, I find that very strange considering the quad box option is only available on TVs and not PCs etc. It's an either-or option not sure why they wouldn't make all features available on all devices before they rolled them out.
You could make your own quad box on your computer. Just open 4 separate windows. Size them appropriately. Boom, quad box. At your home base, you can have unlimited Sunday Ticket streams.
Yeah we have the unlimited, was just hoping to try 2 quads in PiP on the tv for the 1pm window, also the wife and I enjoyed not having to listen to Romo but that's another thread. All-in-all I thought the Sunday Ticket experience was solid. My only gripe would be having to pay upfront and not pay in monthly installments like DTV
Haven't had the chance to catch much MLBtv over the last week or so, so I apologize for the delay in getting back to answering this.
As McBride11 noted, post game shows can be hit or miss. For instance, I just watched the ending of Cubs/Rockies. No post game show available for the Rockies, but the Cubs post game (with Cole Wright and Carlos Peña) was available. Not sure if it's the full post game or not since I've switched over to Angels/Ms.
Yeah, it has showed both pre and post game NESN pretty reliably (out of market obviously).
I didn't try for football (I was at the Pats game and also don't have Sunday Ticket), but on my Chromecast w/ Google TV the quad box worked during NCAA, which is when they first rolled it out.
On a related note, given that the only thing I watch now on YTTV is the local news every evening and football, I might experiment with an antenna (I'm in a location where I should be able to get several stations) and a network tuner (HDHomerun or something similar) and ditch YTTV altogether. Seems that with the HDHomerun it has 4 tuners and the channels automatically integrate with the Android TV platform, plus you can have a DVR for $35/year. I'll update here my experience with it.
Quad box isn't the same as PIP. And, yes, it first rolled out in the NCAA basketball tournament, beta test. It worked great then, too. It's a great feature!
Ok -- thanks much. I think I'm going to try to just live with MLBtv from now on. It seems pretty extravagant to keep Directv just for NESN.
Nexstar Directv temporarily ceasefire
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/directv-temporarily-restore-nexstar-owned-stations-2023-09-17/
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/directv-temporarily-restore-nexstar-owned-stations-2023-09-17/
So I ended up canceling DTV after a DVR died and they wouldn’t guarantee my rate with a new one. Signed up for YTTV and it blows DTV away in pic quality and how it recommends shows based on watch patterns. Audio differences on channels is annoying and the way it handles new DVR recording is dumb as hell but otherwise I’m impressed.
I was also coming to sing the praises of YTTV. We’ve had Hulu Live, Fubu and xfinity. Switched for Sunday Ticket.
Quality is so good. I like that it’s its own app (Hulu mixes which is annoying). I’m traveling today and Hulu would’ve told me I can’t watch live tv here. YTTV let me say I’m temporarily here and, boom, I was watching.
I love this service so far.
Edit: I can’t believe I’m watching the Pats on Sunday Ticket on my iPad while sitting in an airport lounge.
Quality is so good. I like that it’s its own app (Hulu mixes which is annoying). I’m traveling today and Hulu would’ve told me I can’t watch live tv here. YTTV let me say I’m temporarily here and, boom, I was watching.
I love this service so far.
Edit: I can’t believe I’m watching the Pats on Sunday Ticket on my iPad while sitting in an airport lounge.
What's the issue with the DVR? I think he YTTV DVR is world class in every way.
Ok, can someone walk me through this like I'm a kindergartner?
Currently we have directv, with three tvs. Two of the tvs are not "smart," but our main one is. When we want to watch directv, we use the input that is connected to the directv box on the main tv. When we want to watch something on Hulu, or Max, or Peacock (which we all pay separately for), we have to go into the smartv's menu and pick the relevant app. We can't currently stream on the other two tvs, except we have an old apple tv box on one of those tvs.
I signed up for sunday ticket through youtube. To get it, I go into the smartv apps and click on the youtube app, and then it shows me a menu with various options to watch the games. But if I want to watch my local tv games, I have to change inputs on the tv and go to the directv box, which fucks up youtube and requires me to go back into the app and start over when I want to switch back. Directv was much more seemless with Sunday Ticket -- everything was just in the guide.
I'm going to cancel directv and try YTTV. First question -- what will I need to get tv on the two non-smart tvs? Second, how will this all work on the smart tv? Do I now watch tv solely through the youtube app on my tv? What about Max and Hulu, etc.
Sorry, not exactly sure how to ask the question -- I'm really tired of fucking around with multiple remotes and inputs.
Currently we have directv, with three tvs. Two of the tvs are not "smart," but our main one is. When we want to watch directv, we use the input that is connected to the directv box on the main tv. When we want to watch something on Hulu, or Max, or Peacock (which we all pay separately for), we have to go into the smartv's menu and pick the relevant app. We can't currently stream on the other two tvs, except we have an old apple tv box on one of those tvs.
I signed up for sunday ticket through youtube. To get it, I go into the smartv apps and click on the youtube app, and then it shows me a menu with various options to watch the games. But if I want to watch my local tv games, I have to change inputs on the tv and go to the directv box, which fucks up youtube and requires me to go back into the app and start over when I want to switch back. Directv was much more seemless with Sunday Ticket -- everything was just in the guide.
I'm going to cancel directv and try YTTV. First question -- what will I need to get tv on the two non-smart tvs? Second, how will this all work on the smart tv? Do I now watch tv solely through the youtube app on my tv? What about Max and Hulu, etc.
Sorry, not exactly sure how to ask the question -- I'm really tired of fucking around with multiple remotes and inputs.
Most smart TVs are pretty dumb. They lack processing power and have a tendency to not stay up to date with app updates. To make your life simpler, I would buy three streaming devices. You'll have the same experience across all three TVs and they will run much smoother. I really like my Chromecast w/ Google TV. Other options are Roku, Apple TV and Fire Stick.
This has been so frustrating. My husband dotes on the Patriots, and wasn't going to be able to watch the game. It was a Sunday miracle! But only temporarily? The only thing I watch on NBC is Lester Holt and the stable of NBC reporters and anchors on NBC Nightly News. I have missed them.
Oh, I now see that one day after the Reuters piece they announced a multi-year agreement. No details.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/directv-nexstar-dispute-leads-to-new-distribution-agreement/ar-AA1gTpwK
More on topic, I would be happy to drop Directv if I could reliably get NESN elsewhere, but that wouldn't cover the football games, which are mostly on the networks. Does the YTTV Sunday Ticket cover all the games, or are there others he couldn't watch on other days of the week?
Fubo will get you NESN and all the Pats games. It lacks TNT so you lose NBA playoffs if that is important to you.
Sunday Ticket only covers games on Sunday that aren't broadcast on your locals. So in your area no Patriot games.
Agree completely with this. We have Apple TVs connected to both dumb and smart TVs throughout the house and it means we use the same interface on all of them, and only need one remote (the Apple TV remote, which also controls volume and power for each TV). All the apps open through the Apple TV OS with no input switching required.
Although I will note that if you paid for Sunday Ticket as a standalone through YouTube and not as an add-on to YTTV, I think you will still Need to switch apps (between YTTV and classic YouTube) in order to switch between local vs. out of market games.
Ok thanks. This makes sense.
Oh jeez. What a pain. Hopefully, it's just a one year problem if I like YTTV.
Not sure where you‘re located but a good old fashioned HD antenna works beautifully for “local” channels.
View: https://www.amazon.com/Antenna-Indoor-Digital-Support-Booster/dp/B0CB728M77/ref=sr_1_15?crid=PQEEKHJWSAVT&keywords=hd+antenna+for+tv+indoor&qid=1695064117&sprefix=He+antenna%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-15
We have two big antennas in the attic of our out-building . They only get PBS stations from New Hampshire. We have walked all around carrying an antenna and also tried it in the house attic with no reception except the same PBS stations, which we love and are grateful for. I think we once got ABC from Albany, but shakily. Our antennas have boosters, but we haven't updated them for years. Nothing like that indoor antenna from Amazon works .And it does seem from other posts above that if we are in the broadcast area, then there will be a blackout on FUBO and YTTV, if I understand them.
Ah, sorry to hear that.
If you are in the Patriots market, you would get their games on YTTV, whether it be CBS, Fox, ABC or NFL Network. And if (like me) you are out of market, you can get Sunday Ticket to watch the Patriots. However, I did just discover it does not work when you’re vacationing in France!
edit - and yes, besides “local” Sunday afternoon games, you would get Sunday night, Monday night, and Thursday night football games on YTTV.
Fubo and YTTV are just like your local cable provider. You get the local broadcasts across their entire channel lineup. No blackouts to worry about provided you are in market.
If all you want is local news, just get the antenna. Why pay 60 bucks for something you don't want?
It is terrible for showing which shows are newly recorded if you’re recording a show that is in reruns. For instance, I DVR the Andy Griffith Show because I’m an 84 year old trapped on a 42 year old body. It records them but not in the “new recording” area rather another menu option. It then in that menu it doesn’t say what was recorded today but instead puts them in order that is a bit odd and not by season. So scrolling and scrolling to find what you think was aired is a PITA. And the same for Below Deck - it puts them all in one category so you have to scroll past like 3 seasons worth of shit to find what was recorded.
I gotcha. On a computer, it's easier to browse shows with a lot of episodes, but it's a little harder on a streaming device.
Oh I’m sure. It’s no dealbreaker and apparently was much easier to use before a spring UI “upgrade” so I have hope it gets a bit more refin3d for that purpose. But otherwise it’s great.
I think the YTTV DVR is the best except in that they delete after 9 months. Not a deal breaker but when I first got YTTV the first 2 shows I recorded were Law & Order and Hogan's Heroes. And a month or so later I had the total collections of both shows. And I would put them on when I got bored. So with with Law & Order it's always on so after the 9 months when it deletes it it has been recorded numerous times so I still have a copy of all episodes. But HH hasn't been on in the last year so I lost all the episodes.
I would contact YTTV customer service. In my experience, they are pretty helpful.
Hogan's is streaming on Freevee on Amazon Prime. It's free but there are ads.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=hogan's+heroes+tv+series&i=instant-video&crid=17CKHMA2VQFJ4&sprefix=Hogan's+Heroes,instant-video,97&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_2_14
View: https://www.amazon.com/Hogan-Heroes-Season-1/dp/B0B6CDKQ5C
I finally set this up yesterday, and it works so much better than I could have hoped. I bought an antenna a few weeks ago and hooked it up directly to my Samsung TV and got a few channels, but nothing I wanted (I would guess 15 total)
Hooked up the HDHomerun and the antenna in the attic bedroom, put the antenna on the window, and I legit get about 50 channels from Springfield to New Haven (located in Wethersfield, CT).
A simple app on my phone and on my Chromecast and the tuner works flawlessly. I haven't paid for/set up the DVR functionality yet, I'm still exploring how I might possibly set this up to stream outside the home network via Plex or possibly Channels. Materials purchased are linked below. Tuner has to be hard wired into a router; I plugged it in to a Google WiFi access point and it worked beautifully.
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today I took an old computer and set it up as a Channels DVR server. Very easy, and so far awesome. I have 3 local streams going right now, and my daughter is watching live TV remotely. Gonna test it for a few weeks, but I might be kissing YTTV goodbye. Free month to start, $80/year after that.
It’s funny, I’ve gone from cutting the cord to cutting what I cut the cord for: stopped Netflix, MAX, and Apple — will jump in if and when there’s something worth watching. We’ve got the Hulu/Disney+/ESPN package — and NBA League Pass (thanks to my son’s NBA 2K purchase). We’re heading into the time of year when my limited TV viewing hours shift to live sports (baseball playoffs, football, and a shit-ton of hoops), so I don’t need much else.
Next on the chopping block: Amazon Prime — although free shipping may keep us tied into the ecosystem. At the very least, there’s no way I’m paying $3.00 a month to avoid ads. Bezos doesn’t need that stream of revenue the way Netflix does — he’s just being greedy. Fuck that guy.
Next on the chopping block: Amazon Prime — although free shipping may keep us tied into the ecosystem. At the very least, there’s no way I’m paying $3.00 a month to avoid ads. Bezos doesn’t need that stream of revenue the way Netflix does — he’s just being greedy. Fuck that guy.
Anyone know if there is a way to prevent YTTV from playing anything when you start the app? I've turned off Autoplay on start, but that doesn't seem to have changed anything.
I want to start the app and have nothing play at all. I don't want the app to start playing what I had paused previously and I definitely don't want it to start playing the local news that shows the score of the game I have DVR'd for later.
I want to start the app and have nothing play at all. I don't want the app to start playing what I had paused previously and I definitely don't want it to start playing the local news that shows the score of the game I have DVR'd for later.
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Settings has an option titled Autoplay on start that you can toggle that stops this. This is on the Apple TV+ app if that matters.
My question: is there a way to stop it from restarting a program from where it was when you turned it off? I had games this weekend where I tuned off and then hours later tuned on and it started when I left. I didn’t add to library or anything
How long is the delay watching local channels through the app versus directly from the antenna? Is it noticeable?
Sorry if this has been discussed, but my recent trial of Fubo is about to expire, so shopping around again. I'm having a real hard time justifying $70+/mo for full live streaming that we barely use. My stumbling block is Celtics. I know Peacock has NBC Sports, but unclear if that includes regional channels. If not, any other work around besides streaming on PC and casting?
I honestly don't know because the antenna isn't hooked up directly to any TV. But I'm guessing the delay is less than it is if watching the same broadcast on YTTV.
One issue I ran into this morning is when my wife went to watch the morning news as she was getting ready, that particular channel was pixelating due to weather issues (it was pouring rain at my house this morning).
But that same CBS channel had zero issues yesterday watching the Pats game while raining, so I'm not sure what other factors are in play there.