Copa ‘24: Should Have Been a Yellow

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oh thank God they’re yanking Davies, the last 20 min of this tourney are not worth it for him
 

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Argentina’s been trying to gift Canada a pity goal for the last 10 min and they won’t take it
 

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And that one too. Two Canada chances with more than half the goal mouth open. Nothing doing:
 

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Sadly the lack of technical finishing skill cost Canada a couple of goals. Must say very disappointed with the play of both Shaffelburg and David tonight. Good luck Argentina in the finals.
 

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Sadly the lack of technical finishing skill cost Canada a couple of goals. Must say very disappointed with the play of both Shaffelburg and David tonight. Good luck Argentina in the finals.
They needed Shaffelberg to convert at least one of those 3 chances he had, and/or the long throw in at the end of the first half. They got a Messi whose shot was off target tonight, if Canada was going to have a chance they needed to blitz them from the jump, because if ARG needed 4 goals tonight they probably would have figured it out.

Canada looked better against Argentina in a Copa semifinal tonight than the USA did in 2016, so credit to the players and to Marsch.
 

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Argentina roll on and look like they haven't even needed to hit the higher gears to do so. The final will present really their only true test this tournament, regardless of who wins tonight. I think Scaloni will roll with the same lineup for the final, but Molina in for Montiel at RB. There's a small chance Acuna goes in at LB over Taglia, Enzo vs. Paredes at the pivot is up for debate (my position is that Enzo's ceiling is so much higher and Paredes' floor is lower, so you play Enzo regardless), and Julian or Lautaro up front with Messi and ADM. I expect all the guys I just mentioned will get PT in the final regardless, as that is the real rotation, along with Otamendi, Lisandro, and Romero at CB. Pretty wild that accomplished players like Palacios and GLC can't get many minutes. To say nothing of young talents like Garnacho and Carboni.

Pretty neutral on tonight's game. Both teams are very good and will pose a real challenge to Argentina. Colombia only went out to Argentina in the Copa Semis last time around on PKs, where the Emi Martinez legend was first born ('Te voy a comer hermano' FTW). They're playing real well, but I feel like their depth is step below Uruguay's. They showed they can play a physical game against Brazil, but I'd say that Uruguay is the more physical of the two. Colombia is a much more populous country and here in Tampa there's a huge Colombia population, so that would be fun. But Uruguay are our primos from across the river, and they're tied for Copa titles, so that angle is fun too. In sum, I hope they produce a fun game to watch tonight--the winner will be a deserving finalist.
 

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Argentina roll on and look like they haven't even needed to hit the higher gears to do so. The final will present really their only true test this tournament, regardless of who wins tonight. I think Scaloni will roll with the same lineup for the final, but Molina in for Montiel at RB. There's a small chance Acuna goes in at LB over Taglia, Enzo vs. Paredes at the pivot is up for debate (my position is that Enzo's ceiling is so much higher and Paredes' floor is lower, so you play Enzo regardless), and Julian or Lautaro up front with Messi and ADM. I expect all the guys I just mentioned will get PT in the final regardless, as that is the real rotation, along with Otamendi, Lisandro, and Romero at CB. Pretty wild that accomplished players like Palacios and GLC can't get many minutes. To say nothing of young talents like Garnacho and Carboni.

Pretty neutral on tonight's game. Both teams are very good and will pose a real challenge to Argentina. Colombia only went out to Argentina in the Copa Semis last time around on PKs, where the Emi Martinez legend was first born ('Te voy a comer hermano' FTW). They're playing real well, but I feel like their depth is step below Uruguay's. They showed they can play a physical game against Brazil, but I'd say that Uruguay is the more physical of the two. Colombia is a much more populous country and here in Tampa there's a huge Colombia population, so that would be fun. But Uruguay are our primos from across the river, and they're tied for Copa titles, so that angle is fun too. In sum, I hope they produce a fun game to watch tonight--the winner will be a deserving finalist.
No offense to Canada but I wonder if the Argentina B team could have beaten them as well last night. That's more of a compliment to Argentina than a dig at Canada.
 

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No offense to Canada but I wonder if the Argentina B team could have beaten them as well last night. That's more of a compliment to Argentina than a dig at Canada.
Argentina's B team has never been stronger for a full XI (there was a time when their were 6 world class forwards, but the D and MF even in the first XI weren't as good as these):

Garnacho-Lautaro-Buendia/Soule
GLC-Paredes-Palacios
Acuna-Otamendi-Martinez Quarta/Pezzella-Montiel
Rulli

Thiago Almada, Nico Gonzalez, Alan Varela, Medina, Dybala (!), Balerdi, Buanonotte, it's really ridiculous ATM.

Edit: After a quick review, I'd say 2010 was the deepest group of FWDs Argentina ever had. Higuain, Messi, and Aguero all at 22 years old, Tevez (26), and Milito (30). 1998/2002 were beastly with Gabigol, Crespo, and Claudio Lopez with Gabi 7 years older than the others. Gabi was 29 at France '98, so that's probably the one. Let's not forget that most teams were still playing variations of the 4-4-2, so Gabigol and Lopez started against England in the R16 (the Beckham RC game), and Crespo came off the bench (and missed his pen, the only one Argentina would miss on their way to the QF against the Dutch--the 'Bergkamp goal' game that I still have emotional scars from).
 
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Getting a bit chippy. Whomever said earlier CONMEBOL style was CONCACAF but with better players was spot on.
The midfield is is end to end sprints, guys flat out hauling ass, so the tackles and shoulder barges are pretty violent collisions.

The odds of this ending 11 v 11 are low.
 

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Bringing my daughter home from practice we drive a massive Colombian watch party at the Fire Pitch - massive tailgate that's spilled out into the street. Might run home and look for a yellow shirt so I can join the fiesta.
 

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Bringing my daughter home from practice we drive a massive Colombian watch party at the Fire Pitch - massive tailgate that's spilled out into the street. Might run home and look for a yellow shirt so I can join the fiesta.
I saw this Colombian food truck in midtown Manhattan. Guess they’re trying to cover as many bets at once as they can.

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Saw that elbow on the live action and figured Munoz was toast right then and there. 3 minutes of arguing later, yup, off he goes.
 

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Pretty bad show by the official there.
 

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I’m not sure why soccer operates such lengthy stoppages. Force Colombia to sub already.
 

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As was mentioned in the Euro thread, the pathetic time-wasting bullshit would cease if the clock actually stopped while it was going on. I'd actually prefer the clock be stopped - even if for literally 2 seconds - whenever the ball is out of play.
 

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These guys’ parents should have made them play (American) football instead of soccer. With all these injuries, soccer is clearly too dangerous.
 

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As was mentioned in the Euro thread, the pathetic time-wasting bullshit would cease if the clock actually stopped while it was going on. I'd actually prefer the clock be stopped - even if for literally 2 seconds - whenever the ball is out of play.
We don’t need to change the entire sport. This problem has existed for decades. Just add on liberal amounts of time like the WC and the advantage of this goes away. +2 in the first half and +3 or +4 in the second just doesn’t reflect the actual delay. It’s fairly easy to solve adequately without such drastic changes to the sport
 

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The style of play is stunningly different compared to Europe.

less passes, more dribbling, more direct, more progressive, larger distances between the lines.