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cornwalls@6

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Look, I love Deion, he is probably the best Nole ever. I’ll take Brian Kelly as my coach.
I assume there’s no way he coaches their bowl ( or playoff) game. Freeman? Reese? After very mixed feelings about Kelly early on, I came to appreciate the job he’s done with the program. The ten-ish year itch of that job strikes again.
 

canderson

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Has there ever been a year where 4 blue bloods have coach openings? USC, LSU, ND, OU? Add in Florida which is tier 2 and man what a time to be alive.
 

E5 Yaz

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Other than money, why the hell would Kelly make this move?
 

bosockboy

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Has there ever been a year where 4 blue bloods have coach openings? USC, LSU, ND, OU? Add in Florida which is tier 2 and man what a time to be alive.
More crazy is two took coaches from the others. Don’t think a blue blood has poached another one ever, and happened twice in 24 hours.
 

Sox and Rocks

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Kelly to LSU makes some sense. He's a good coach (very underrated) and, as others have pointed out in this thread, winning in the SEC is easier than at Notre Dame given academic requirements and financial support (not that Notre Dame is poor). Of course, the SEC, in-conference schedule is daunting...

This is horrible timing, though. ND has a chance at the playoff, and Kelly's gonna leave before they find out if they're in or not? I imagine the ND players feeling quite betrayed, and rightfully so.
 

luckiestman

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Kelly to LSU makes some sense. He's a good coach (very underrated) and, as others have pointed out in this thread, winning in the SEC is easier than at Notre Dame given academic requirements and financial support (not that Notre Dame is poor). Of course, the SEC, in-conference schedule is daunting...

This is horrible timing, though. ND has a chance at the playoff, and Kelly's gonna leave before they find out if they're in or not? I imagine the ND players feeling quite betrayed, and rightfully so.
And if Fickell is ND first choice can the wait until Cincy is out? Timing in that is tough too.
 

steveluck7

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From Matt Fortuna:
“This is usually how these things go, but Brian Kelly has ghosted everyone at Notre Dame. Just spoke to one assistant who saw reports on his phone tonight as he was exiting a recruit's home: "The news broke when I walked out of the house, so I look like a f----- a--hole."
 

Vinho Tinto

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Kelly felt like a football CEO for Notre Dame. He made a great deal of changes to the program off the field. If LSU empowers Kelly to truly rebuild their program, similar to what Saban was allowed to do at Alabama, they will get the full value of Kelly. If they don’t, he will be gone in roughly 4-5 years and they can go shopping for another coach then.
 

canderson

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I’m old enough to remember every AD saying they couldn’t survive Covid without fans or games And they were in the verge of bankruptcy.
 

soxhop411

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From Matt Fortuna:
“This is usually how these things go, but Brian Kelly has ghosted everyone at Notre Dame. Just spoke to one assistant who saw reports on his phone tonight as he was exiting a recruit's home: "The news broke when I walked out of the house, so I look like a f----- a--hole."
He also did the equivalent of breaking up with your significant other via text. This is how he told the team
View: https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1465521214340882434

It’s also giving me castellanos vibes.
View: https://youtu.be/lH_-OTq0aic
 
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cornwalls@6

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The current environment and recruiting schedule makes “classy” departures impossible. I’m a lifetime ND fan, and it sucks to have this happen before the final playoff standings are announced. But he’s hardly unique making this kind of move.
 

Average Reds

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The current environment and recruiting schedule makes “classy” departures impossible. I’m a lifetime ND fan, and it sucks to have this happen before the final playoff standings are announced. But he’s hardly unique making this kind of move.
You are taking about a coach who should have served jail time for ordering a student to stay in the coaching tower during the storm that killed him.

“Classy” and Kelly parted ways long before yesterday.
 

kenneycb

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Everyone keeps talking about "class" but what exactly is a "classy" way to leave for another major program? The text message for a meeting seems like it's a no go. I assume that would be the same with calling a meeting and blindsiding the team, which you probably can't do nowadays with social media and reports leaking. I'm sure there are a few other options out there but not sure how any would be construed as "classy".
 

Average Reds

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Everyone keeps talking about "class" but what exactly is a "classy" way to leave for another major program? The text message for a meeting seems like it's a no go. I assume that would be the same with calling a meeting and blindsiding the team, which you probably can't do nowadays with social media and reports leaking. I'm sure there are a few other options out there but not sure how any would be construed as "classy".
If this is aimed at me, I’d point out that my comment was refuting the defense of Kelly.

I don’t give a shit about “class” and these coaches are free to do whatever they want. However, that freedom comes with the burden of being responsible for their actions. And their actions are pretty definitive proof that they are (and have always been) sociopathic assholes.

Edit: it’s worth noting that until recently, every college coach lined up to create barriers for athletes who wanted to transfer. And their argument was always about “loyalty to the program” or some such bullshit. And now these assholes can’t even be bothered to finish out their seasons before grabbing tens of millions of dollars while leaving their programs in shambles behind them. The idea that anyone would defend this kind of ethical bankruptcy is ridiculous.
 

Sille Skrub

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winning in the SEC is easier than at Notre Dame given academic requirements and financial support (not that Notre Dame is poor). Of course, the SEC, in-conference schedule is daunting...
I don't know, man.

If you are talking about winning a national title, I'd argue it's much harder to win one in the SEC. As you mention, that conference schedule is brutal and Alabama seems to reload like crazy every year.

ND usually has what, one or two "hard" games on the schedule each year?
 

Average Reds

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I don't know, man.

If you are talking about winning a national title, I'd argue it's much harder to win one in the SEC. As you mention, that conference schedule is brutal and Alabama seems to reload like crazy every year.

ND usually has what, one or two "hard" games on the schedule each year?
My guess is that S&R was talking about the ability to recruit top athletes without worrying whether the admissions department would allow them to enroll.

In terms of the schedule, you are unquestionably correct.
 

canderson

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I don't know, man.

If you are talking about winning a national title, I'd argue it's much harder to win one in the SEC. As you mention, that conference schedule is brutal and Alabama seems to reload like crazy every year.

ND usually has what, one or two "hard" games on the schedule each year?
The last 3 coaches have won titles at LSU. It's a football program masquerading as a university*.

*It's also so poor they''ve threatened to close the library so ya know
 

Cellar-Door

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I find it hilarious all the "class" stuff or "loyalty" (not this site, just CFB talk in general) about college coaches.

These are people whose life work is making tens of millions on the back of unpaid laborers working a physically devastating job.. every one of them is a sociopathic monster, you can't be anything else and do that job. Like, "oh this guy was such a classy overseer, he always smiled at the sharecroppers at the end of the day"