High altitude. Guys not in game shape. Just started playing with each other. Lots of standing around. Meaningless game.
That pretty much covers my 'Summer League' excuse book
That pretty much covers my 'Summer League' excuse book
High altitude. Guys not in game shape. Just started playing with each other. Lots of standing around. Meaningless game.
That pretty much covers my 'Summer League' excuse book
He flew to America last week and without time to even find a local McDonald's is on a basketball court with foreign players in a foreign country playing in a different setting at altitude. When he leaves the arena he is in freakin Las Vegas with woman everywhere and its 115 degrees out. Oh and he's 20 years old and doesn't know a soul.RE Zizic; I am having a hard time reconciling the guy I watched several times in the Euroleague this winter/spring with the guy in the summer league. He looks slow and stiff compared... I wonder if he has dead legs after the playoffs. He was the best guy on the floor for stretches when his team was playing Real Madrid.
Just to add some context to this for people who didn't watch...Mitchell is really bringing it to him. I'd love to see him respond.
Well done sir.The Kadeem Abdel Jabari tandem couldn't get anything going.
I wouldn't either, at least not on Tatum's end. Mitchell's definitely a competitive guy, but there was something extra last night, I dunno if it was some old ACC beef or he was going after the high draft pick, but he was amped up and had the crowd behind him. Mitchell's not quite Marcus Smart level strong, but he's not far off and he's more explosive with a better jump shot. He's going to be a menace to deal with defending 1-3. As far as Tatum's concerned, like the rest of the Celtics, he looked spent last night, plus he's two years younger than Mitchell. When he adds strength and weight, I won't be too concerned about him getting bullied by 6'3 guards.Just to add some context to this for people who didn't watch...
Because the Celtics played with no PG last night Nader and Tatum were forced to bring the ball up the floor. Tatum has a good handle but it sure as hell isn't that good. Mitchell is a fantastic on ball defender and was picking up Tatum basically full court and really disrupting him.
Mitchell looked great (so much so that there were a bunch of tweets with GIFs taking about how SAVAGE Mitchell was and how he DESTROYED TATUM) but it was a situation and scenario which would never happen in a real NBA game. Wouldn't read too much into it
well for balance you can watch him get just destroyed by known offensive juggernaut Brice Johnson (nba career FG% 286).Oh great. Is this what we have to look forward to every time he gets an assist on a alley-oop?
time to call Nike back and settle for $500MMLonzo is 2-13 tonight
Magic's face here is priceless.Lonzo is 2-13 tonight
I can watch that over and over and overMagic's face here is priceless.
Appearance is very important to Utahns (as is social status in general), so Utah is ranked pretty highly in beauty. Women in Salt Lake City have the highest percentage of boob jobs in America, IIRC. (Although I find fake breasts hideous, personally.)I thought they had been in Utah. They have women there?
Lakers fans just puked at the thought but Marshall may not be that far off as a floor. Ball's defense was thoroughly unimpressive and that was going up against summer league scrubs. I can't wait to see him go up against studs like Wall and Westbrook. Going to be a layup line.First game jitters etc. But.... there were reasons to think that Lonzo wasn't actually a good shooter going into the draft, and.... if Lonzo can't shoot, we already know he can't really defend, or win off the dribble... well that makes him What exactly?
I've used the Rubio without defense comparison (which is kind of weird since Rubio is a very good defender and it's a major reason he's in the league), but maybe a better one is on the same SL roster as him..... Kendall Marshall.
There was no one happier than me that Lonzo didn't work out for the Cs but you have to think that Lonzo will figure out to how to get his shot off on catch and shoot jumpers. That plus being able to get steals and (hopefully) guard 2s & 3s will make him at least a productive player.First game jitters etc. But.... there were reasons to think that Lonzo wasn't actually a good shooter going into the draft, and.... if Lonzo can't shoot, we already know he can't really defend, or win off the dribble... well that makes him What exactly?
I've used the Rubio without defense comparison (which is kind of weird since Rubio is a very good defender and it's a major reason he's in the league), but maybe a better one is on the same SL roster as him..... Kendall Marshall.
Needed to update the Excuse Book after reading above posts:High altitude. Guys not in game shape. Just started playing with each other. Lots of standing around. Meaningless game.
That pretty much covers my 'Summer League' excuse book
De'Aaron Fox looking impressive so far. That's a pick that the Lakers may really regret.There was no one happier than me that Lonzo didn't work out for the Cs but you have to think that Lonzo will figure out to how to get his shot off on catch and shoot jumpers. That plus being able to get steals and (hopefully) guard 2s & 3s will make him at least a productive player.
I'm silently rooting for him - well at least after this upcoming season. He seems like a good kid and it's not his fault his father does what he does. But man, I think his floor is way lower than Fultz, Tatum, or Jackson. I can't see him contributing much this season.
Ball will be much better than he showed tonight but he was shit on defense against scrubs. Glad Danny didn't trade Avery to LA because he'd be perfect next to Lonzo, as he can hit all the open shots and guard the quick PGs that Lonzo will really struggle to defend.I'm torn. In the abstract I love Ball's game. An unselfish guy that knows how to pass and likes to pass.
But damn, his dad makes it hard. So I don't know what to think tonight.
Honestly, I was coming back to thread to edit my post with "Then again, it's the Lakers."It's the Lakers. That should make it easy.
What about Rondo?First game jitters etc. But.... there were reasons to think that Lonzo wasn't actually a good shooter going into the draft, and.... if Lonzo can't shoot, we already know he can't really defend, or win off the dribble... well that makes him What exactly?
I've used the Rubio without defense comparison (which is kind of weird since Rubio is a very good defender and it's a major reason he's in the league), but maybe a better one is on the same SL roster as him..... Kendall Marshall.
If the Lakers got Rondo with no defense with the #2 pick, I may never stop laughing.What about Rondo?
Rondo had better athleticism, so he actually won off the driblle a good amount of the time, and his defensive issues were more effort/concentration than physical.... but yeah bad years regular season non-national TV Rondo.What about Rondo?
He is clearly the best player on the court this game. He is just so explosive.De'Aaron Fox looking impressive so far. That's a pick that the Lakers may really regret.
The winner of that award resides on your Boston Celtics. Semi Ojelaye. Who I would rather have over Lonzo Ball and I'm not jokingInteresting line for contenders for the Malcolm Brogdon second-round-draft-steal award for this year: Last night Sindarius Thornwell was 6 of 13 from the field, 5 rebounds, 2 steals (and 8 fouls) -- for 26 points, because he got to the line 18 times and made 14 of those. He was a second rounder, pick 48, and drafted by Milwaukee (then traded to Clippers).
Ojeleye has played 79 minutes in 3 games, has taken 19 shots, and plays the same position as two #3 draft picks on the same team and you can already tell that he's going to be out of the league when guys like Chris Johnson are still looking for their shot?Meh, I think Semi is out of the league in 2 years.
He looks a lot more athletic than he is. He has no lateral movement. He's a Binky.Ojeleye has played 79 minutes in 3 games, has taken 19 shots, and plays the same position as two #3 draft picks on the same team and you can already tell that he's going to be out of the league when guys like Chris Johnson are still looking for their shot?
Rondo came in to the league unable to hit a 15 footer. His college opponents left him open outside of the lane. Over time he became good enough that you had to put a defender on him for those jump shots, though. The question is, did he always have the ability and never practiced it before playing in Boston? And the same question is there for Ball. Can he practice and get better? Or is he just a guy who can't shoot from outside?What about Rondo?
What are you talking about? He shot over 40% from 3 in college. He was over 55% from the floor. I don't love his offensive game but where is this Rondo comparison coming from???Rondo came in to the league unable to hit a 15 footer. His college opponents left him open outside of the lane. Over time he became good enough that you had to put a defender on him for those jump shots, though. The question is, did he always have the ability and never practiced it before playing in Boston? And the same question is there for Ball. Can he practice and get better? Or is he just a guy who can't shoot from outside?
Well that's just ridiculous.Semi Ojelaye. Who I would rather have over Lonzo Ball and I'm not joking
Based on what exactly? 6 6 245 one of the best athletes in his draft class shot 42% from 3 and 78% from the line while being a plus rebounder and carrying his team to the NCAA tournyMeh, I think Semi is out of the league in 2 years.
Hyperbole but I had a late first grade on Lonzo. I think his shot doesn't translate at all, he can't defend, and he's not shooting and not defending then what is he exactly? He has bust written all over him.Well that's just ridiculous.
He's saying *if* his weird shot does not translate at this level, then who is he.What are you talking about? He shot over 40% from 3 in college. He was over 55% from the floor. I don't love his offensive game but where is this Rondo comparison coming from???
Based on what exactly? 6 6 245 one of the best athletes in his draft class shot 42% from 3 and 78% from the line while being a plus rebounder and carrying his team to the NCAA tourny
Out of the league? Come on man.