I understand the Lonzo hate, but Semi Ojeleye averaged less steals at SMU (.4) than Fab Melo did at Syracuse (.5). He's going to have to become an entirely different player than he is right now to be an NBA-quality defender. I understand that steals aren't the be-all-end-all of defense, but they correlate pretty freaking well with good defense. I just went through all the decent NBA defender's college stats to see if I could find a single one who that few steals per game, and I couldn't even find NBA players, nevermind good defenders, who averaged that few. Jordan F'ing Crawford managed to turn up 1.3 steals a game. Kendall Marshall managed a steal a game. Lonzo ball averaged four times as many steals as Semi.
And a quarter as many as JR Giddens, for that matter.
Mickey has been in the NBA (more or less) for four years and probably will get another shot. Young has been in the NBA for four years and is probably going to be on the Pelicans roster next year getting minutes. (See http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/sports/pelicans/article_401665c2-6371-11e7-b4f8-db233f0b1408.html).
What Rondo are you talking about?
Lose was saying that Ball without a jump shot might be like Rondo. The wuestioned assumed that Ball can't shoot, which is premature but part of the question. Kind of sorta works but not really the point.
AM's quotes contained Ball's college shooting percentage (the "he" referred to Ball not Rondo). Onviously if Ball can hit 35% of NBA threes, he'll be a different player than Rondo.
No, the same question is not there. Serious question, did you watch like a single game of his last year? While there may be questions about his ability to get his shot off against NBA defenders off the dribble, there is no question about his ability to "shoot from the outside."
He had a first round grade from plenty of scouts and guys who do this stuff. He slid in favor of some high upside guys which is fine for late first. That doesn't make him a bad prospect.
There definitely still is question if he's a GOOD shooter from the outside, he shot low to mid 30s from 3 in HS and tourneys. He shot under 35% in his college games where he didn't use a Wilson basketball.
Rondo in college was must-see tv to watch how opponents defended him. It was the same zone that was used against Doug Gottlieb at OKS the decade before......a straight 2-3 with both guards with their feet in the paint. It forced Tubby to remove Rondo from the starting lineup and then later play him off the balls with (Sparks?) their 2 initiating the offense so Rondo could attack gaps from the wing.
Ok, but Leon Powe wasn't Malcolm Brogdon. He had a 5 year career, though the last 2 years he played 20 and 30 games. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/powele01.html
Yeah, I read that Ringer piece in March, too. Color me unconvinced that shooting 34.1% in a sample size of around 40 shots in a subset of road games (using a Nike basketball, which they also don't use in the league) proves the rather silly theory that he can only shoot with one brand of basketball, or that it represents his "true" shooting ability. As for him being "not good" going right or on straightaway pull-ups, you're talking about a sample size of 10 shots. He made 3. And how many of those exactly were with his "preferred Wilson ball"?
No, the 10 shots are not supposed to be a good sample, the point of his going right is that he hasn't been able to do it. To say he's a good shooter you have to ignore the 370 shots he took where he was a sub-35% shooter (with various manufacturers, including Adidas, Nike and others) in favor of the 90 or so where he shot well.
You mean Shawn Marion.... the career 33% shooter from 3? You should have used Kevin Martin, he's basically the only guy with the side release who shot well in the NBA.
So basically, your opinion is that the somewhat larger small sample size is completely right while the smaller small sample size is crazy.....because it's a small sample size?
Ugh, Sparks. Classic example of unwatchable college basketball, though nobody will ever surpass Perry Ellis for me in that department.
No, I think the larger overall sample size is more likely to be an accurate predictor than a laughably tiny slice of road game shooting. And i think attributing it to the basketball used (rather than say, the fact that most shooters shoot better at home) because some guy at the Ringer heard a theory from a guy and then "backed it up" with 45 shots is loony business.
And once again you ignore that it's the 90 shots being compared to over 350 shots. If the road/neutral numbers didn't line up with the 300+ 3s he shot at Adidas, HS, and other tourneys it wouldn't be an issue. His good shooting isn't the larger sample, it's the small sample. That it's an issue with his grip/form is just one theory as to why that small sample of good shooting split that way, even if you throw it out, the issue remains that the majority of the 3s he's taken he's been a sub 35% shooter.
no one said Leon Powe was Brogdan but he stuck on a NBA roster for more than 2 years and wasn't the last man on the bench. BTW, Powe's career was cut short by injuries.
So, he shot 31% at Adidas as a Junior, 36% as a Senior (on 6.4 attempts per game, many from WAY downtown), and then 40+% as a freshman. And the verdict's still out on his shooting? Okay.
He's just scared of Jaylen. That's too bad though, was looking forward to those two going at it tonight.
