He's also 29. Revis fell off a cliff at 30. If the financials are comparable, I'll stick with Malcom.
Butler would be owed about $20 million, Sherman about $26.8. I don't see that as about even, it's 33% more. Plus Butler is younger. I'll grant that Sherman may be a better player, but the money and age thing matter. I wouldn't move down here at all.They save money the first year but if they franchise him they have to pay Butler approximately $16 million in year two so the money is about even.
Indeed:Sherman sounds like an asshole.
Think BB wants that kind of crap in the Pats locker room?Tension flared at strange times last season, blowing little issues into big ones. One day, Sherman walked into a team meeting and found rookie guard Germain Ifedi sitting at a desk. That's a no-no. Rookies sit on the floor; veterans get the desks. Sherman lorded over him, but Ifedi did what Sherman might have done as a rookie: He stayed at the desk.
Finally, Sherman broke: "Get up." Ifedi stood up and knocked over the desk, tossing it aside.
Do you think for a second BB would ever not have enough desks for all the players, coaches, football ops staff, and anyone else who needed to be in a meeting or film session? No desk makes it harder to take notes. No chair makes it harder to sit and concentrate. Poor concentration makes it harder to prepare. No way in hell there aren't enough seats for people. And no way in hell BB lets it get to the point where people are throwing desks instead of working.Indeed:
Think BB wants that kind of crap in the Pats locker room?
Holy crap, this. Literally all I could think after reading that tidbit was, how the hell does a professional sports franchise not have enough desks for their players? Budget cuts?Do you think for a second BB would ever not have enough desks for all the players, coaches, football ops staff, and anyone else who needed to be in a meeting or film session?
Yup. The fans, commentators, and players??? who think that game was about the wrong play call or a poorly executed play - or who think that single play was more about the Seahawks than it was the Patriots - basicallyThe Seahawks vaunted defense blew a 10 point fourth quarter lead in that Super Bowl, and the offense then drove them down to the 1 yard line with little time left and gave them an excellent chance to win the game before Butler made an amazing play.
Sherman sounds like a dick.
One of the words you always hear people use about the Patriots is "accountable". When they sucked in 2002, a number of players and coaches said, basically, "we were not accountable enough". To me, it means recognizing where you went wrong, owning your mistake, and fixing it. It starts with Brady, and flows from there. It distills down into "Do Your Job".I agree that nothing in that story would stop BB from acquiring a player who he thought would improve the team and I am sure Sherman would get with the program. There is a lot I like about Sherman but personally I think the finger pointing to the offense is a bad look.
Holy crap, look how open Gronk is on that play.Yup. The fans, commentators, and players??? who think that game was about the wrong play call or a poorly executed play - or who think that single play was more about the Seahawks than it was the Patriots - basically
fail an IQ test. Well, maybe that's unfair because Sherman seems like a bright guy, maybe he's trying to deflect attention from the fact - or his brain is just trying to subconsciously deny the fact- that HIS defense got torched by the GOAT. I mean, look how open Edelman is on the go-ahead touchdown, and notice how Edelman was in fact the second (Edit: actually THIRD) most open guy in the frame:
At the goal line in the fourth quarter the Seahawks defense was overmatched, and the Patriots defense made a great play. Fact and fact.
And Amendola as well for a little lob.Holy crap, look how open Gronk is on that play.
Yeah, I mostly agree with this. I don't disagree with others that Sherman comes across as a bit asshole-ish but when you dig a little more, it does seem he cares about winning/accountability/etc. He should probably tighten up how frequently he yaps about it, but I could easily see a situation where Sherman on the Patriots would be a win-win. He would probably respect BB right off the bat when he got there.One of the words you always hear people use about the Patriots is "accountable". When they sucked in 2002, a number of players and coaches said, basically, "we were not accountable enough". To me, it means recognizing where you went wrong, owning your mistake, and fixing it. It starts with Brady, and flows from there. It distills down into "Do Your Job".
There is a fine line though between holding someone accountable and blaming/finger pointing. That article makes it look like Sherman is a finger pointer, and he may be, but it very well may be because of the way Carroll treats Wilson. The accountability isn't there. And maybe Sherman is right, that the team needs that. PFF graded Germain Ifedi as the worst first round pick last year, and one of the worst guards in the league overall. Maybe he should do something on the field before he gets in the face of a guy who has, you know, actually accomplished something in the NFL.
Richard Sherman is a smart dude, who clearly loves football. I think if he ended up here, he'd get with the program pretty quickly.
That is a genius way to handle it, but in the social sense. Milloy presumably wanted the Pats to pay for a nice suite. Instead he feels vaguely like a jerk for making his coach move, while simultaneously having to accept the unstated reproof that his old room was plenty big.The genius of BB, one of them anyway, is he seems to know how to deal with players and situations individually rather than falling back on a cliche every time. One story I love is when Milloy complained about a small hotel room for SB 36. Did BB ream him a new one, bench him for practice, joke to the media? No, he swapped rooms with him. Would any other coach do that? It's certainly not the cliched action of an "I'm in charge and you need to get with the program or get out" dictator. Yet it's all of a piece why players respect the hell out of him if not love him.
Then two years later he cut Milloy - bang!
He ordered revenge. And it was served cold.Milloy probably ordered a bunch of room service and watched a ton of xxx pay per view.
Then two years later he cut Milloy - bang!
Though not as dumb as Wilson never acknowledging any culpability to his teammates.The Seahawks defense definitely deserves some blame for that Super Bowl loss, but they also lost their starting cornerback to a broken leg in the first half and their second best defensive lineman to a concussion in the third quarter.
I completely understand why Sherman is still pissed. What Seahawks player or fan isn't? That was a chance at a dynasty and it ended in such bizarre fashion, but to pin all the blame on Russell Wilson is dumb.
As far as Wilson being a bottom of the second tier quarterback, well, you are smoking crack if you believe that.
We don't know that he hasn't done that. The story says there was some sort of bitchfest about that play on a ledge in Hawaii where Russell had flown everyone to.Though not as dumb as Wilson never acknowledging any culpability to his teammates.
Wow, I never noticed how wide open Gronk was on this playYup. The fans, commentators, and players??? who think that game was about the wrong play call or a poorly executed play - or who think that single play was more about the Seahawks than it was the Patriots - basically
fail an IQ test. Well, maybe that's unfair because Sherman seems like a bright guy, maybe he's trying to deflect attention from the fact - or his brain is just trying to subconsciously deny the fact- that HIS defense got torched by the GOAT. I mean, look how open Edelman is on the go-ahead touchdown, and notice how Edelman was in fact the second (Edit: actually THIRD) most open guy in the frame:
At the goal line in the fourth quarter the Seahawks defense was overmatched, and the Patriots defense made a great play. Fact and fact.
I never noticed this. Completely unaccounted for. That said, TB12's whole body was going to Edelman's side before he really gets released.Holy crap, look how open Gronk is on that play.
I think that may have something to do with how bad he thew it the last time he was wide open, same play.I never noticed this. Completely unaccounted for. That said, TB12's whole body was going to Edelman's side before he really gets released.
I don't think that necessarily means that he's owned his share of the responsibility for the Butler play to his teammates. That to me seems more like a generic "the buck stops here" for the media."The most important thing at quarterback, and a leader in general, is accountability," he said. "So what happened in Super Bowl 49, I take full responsibility for it."
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/12348398/russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-takes-responsibility-super-bowl-xlix-interception
I don't know if you read the story, but the quote is from a video he posted on the Players Tribune. Now, maybe he said that and the other things quoted from the video for "generic" reasons for the media and the fans -- but refused to say the same to his teammates -- but without proof, I doubt itI don't think that necessarily means that he's owned his share of the responsibility for the Butler play to his teammates. That to me seems more like a generic "the buck stops here" for the media.
He's basically Rodney Harrison from 16 years ago from the sounds of itDo you think for a second BB would ever not have enough desks for all the players, coaches, football ops staff, and anyone else who needed to be in a meeting or film session? No desk makes it harder to take notes. No chair makes it harder to sit and concentrate. Poor concentration makes it harder to prepare. No way in hell there aren't enough seats for people. And no way in hell BB lets it get to the point where people are throwing desks instead of working.
Sherman is definitely a dick, but only because Carroll lets him. Do you think BB would bring everyone together to sing Kumbaya if one guy started 2 fights in one practice? Hell no, he'd kick they guy out and then chew him a few new assholes while explaining get with program or start looking for a new team.
And Russell Wilson is overrated and comes across as a complete fake. He's definitely a decent QB, maybe the bottom of the second tier of QBs, top of the third. However the reason he is Super Bowl winning quarterback Russell Wilson is because of his defense. The defense outscored Denver's offense. In the first half. A safety and a pick six. Denver scored a TD and 2pt conversion.
Sherman is a dick, but he's a talented dick who loves football and goes 110% all the time. Who does that sound like? Bill Belichick. Tom Brady. He's Patriots material.
I'm still dreaming of a Butler, Gilmore, and Sherman backfield.He's basically Rodney Harrison from 16 years ago from the sounds of it
I see him about there as well, though more likely in the 8-10 range. Which to me also puts him in the bottom half of the 2nd tier of QBs.Yeah I see Wilson solidly in the 6th-to-10th ranks of "not elite game-changing talents, but does most everything competently and will occasionally make great plays out of nothing".
The Competition Committee wouldn't even allow itI'm still dreaming of a Butler, Gilmore, and Sherman backfield.
Without derailing the thread, this and Instaface's quote are where I stand. Wilson us than your average QB, but not great/elite. He will win you games but won't carry a team for a season.I see him about there as well, though more likely in the 8-10 range. Which to me also puts him in the bottom half of the 2nd tier of QBs.
To be a dynasty, don't you need to have a period of sustained championships/excellence? In other words, even if they won that SB they would still need to win a couple more. They haven't been able to pull it together in the years since to even make it back to the SB.That was a chance at a dynasty and it ended in such bizarre fashion, but to pin all the blame on Russell Wilson is dumb.
Both teams had key players get concussed...The Seahawks defense definitely deserves some blame for that Super Bowl loss, but they also lost their starting cornerback to a broken leg in the first half and their second best defensive lineman to a concussion in the third quarter.
I completely understand why Sherman is still pissed. What Seahawks player or fan isn't? That was a chance at a dynasty and it ended in such bizarre fashion, but to pin all the blame on Russell Wilson is dumb.
As far as Wilson being a bottom of the second tier quarterback, well, you are smoking crack if you believe that.