What a feeling this must be for him.
View: https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1407092969359003648?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1407092969359003648?s=21
Not in Men's team sports, I believe.Hopefully this opens the floodgates in the NFL and other major sports.
Are there any other out current athletes in other major sports?
After seeing the Raiders' reaction and support, I'm about to grab me a Carl Nassib Raiders jersey. This is just delightful. This kid is from my neck of the woods, too - West Chester, PA. Just fucking cool.Awesome. As of today I‘m a Carl Nassib fan.
As the saying goes, NFL stands for Not For Long. Five years gets him to 33; pro football reference only lists 9 such linebackers, and that includes a long snapper and three guys who didn't play in 2020. Considering that he's already been waived once in his career, I don''t think anyone really would have raised an eyebrow if he washed out as soon as this season, although I'd defer to those who follow the Raiders more closely than I do.what would his career trajectory look like if this were not a factor (which it absolutely shouldn't be)? Does he have 5 more years in the league? Just trying to gauge what happens going forward versus what should have happened going forward -- and hopefully seeing no differences
This brings tears to my eyes.This brings tears to my ears.
He's a brave soul, but also kind, compassionate, and thoughtful. By not making it about him, and making it about the community, he's shown he's someone we in the the LBGTQIA+ community can rally around and support.
And one day, videos like this will be unnecessary.
This is what progress looks like.
I like this version of Frat better than the one who yells at me.This brings tears to my ears.
He's a brave soul, but also kind, compassionate, and thoughtful. By not making it about him, and making it about the community, he's shown he's someone we in the the LBGTQIA+ community can rally around and support.
And one day, videos like this will be unnecessary.
This is what progress looks like.
Buffalo Chili, baby <3I like this version of Frat better than the one who yells at me.
Indeed it is. I'm hosting a pride month lunch chat at work with a host who is going to try and explain the current climate to many people who have know idea what they go through as a nonbinary individual. I wish we could book Nassib as well. What a wonderful video and the reaction it gives you makes me so happy for you!This brings tears to my ears.
He's a brave soul, but also kind, compassionate, and thoughtful. By not making it about him, and making it about the community, he's shown he's someone we in the the LBGTQIA+ community can rally around and support.
And one day, videos like this will be unnecessary.
This is what progress looks like.
It is also not even 9am. So we'll see. Acceptance will happen, slowly but surely.I was hoping to see a lot more active players supporting him by now. There have been a handful but not the mass I was hoping for.
I'm not sure how I'd rank the major sports leagues in terms of likely support for a gay player, but the NFL would be lower on the list simply because there's a hyper element of "toxic masculinity" to it. That any players voice encouragement is probably a major sign of progress.I was hoping to see a lot more active players supporting him by now. There have been a handful but not the mass I was hoping for.
Beautiful post.This brings tears to my eyes.
He's a brave soul, but also kind, compassionate, and thoughtful. By not making it about him, and making it about the community, he's shown he's someone we in the the LBGTQIA+ community can rally around and support.
And one day, videos like this will be unnecessary.
This is what progress looks like.
I won’t V&N this but anti-trans and non-binary discriminatory laws are going up all over the country in red states including the one I live in, Texas. My cohosts and I have covered it a few times on our pod (which is a mixture of queer culture and football). I’m NB but present as male outside the home. I’m out at work and to my family. It’s going to be a culture war for probably the next 5-10-20 years. I share Nassib’s vision that I just hope one day this stuff is all no big deal. I’m glad places like this forum exist and people in BBTL don’t make homo/trans/NB-phobic posts or comments. In fact it’s the opposite - people here are some of the most accepting and wonderful folks I know. Well… unless you’re a Stidham or Cam fanIndeed it is. I'm hosting a pride month lunch chat at work with a host who is going to try and explain the current climate to many people who have know idea what they go through as a nonbinary individual. I wish we could book Nassib as well. What a wonderful video and the reaction it gives you makes me so happy for you!
Doesn't matter, his career as a financial advisor is clearly going to take off once he retires.Great to see the Raiders being supportive. It's another milestone for them to go along first hispanic starting quarterback, first hispanic head coach, first black head coach of the modern era, first female CEO.
As the saying goes, NFL stands for Not For Long. Five years gets him to 33; pro football reference only lists 9 such linebackers, and that includes a long snapper and three guys who didn't play in 2020. Considering that he's already been waived once in his career, I don''t think anyone really would have raised an eyebrow if he washed out as soon as this season, although I'd defer to those who follow the Raiders more closely than I do.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/friv/age.cgi?month=1&day=1&year=1989
Well except for that fact that your not going to get a 10 percent return with your money parked in a bank.Doesn't matter, his career as a financial advisor is clearly going to take off once he retires.
Did you see his clientele? They clearly don't know that.Well except for that fact that your not going to get a 10 percent return with your money parked in a bank.
I have a gay son who struggled immensely for a very long time before he came out a couple of years ago. He has only recently shared with me more of that struggle. If only I could have made it easier. This announcement matters it would have helped my son in this very sports obsessed town where he didn’t quite fit in. I bet he’d have played more. I wonder if he would have come out earlier and struggled less. This is why it matters when people come out. They change hearts. They save lives. I have had some talks this year with people who said they didn’t get why people felt the need to talk about private matters. I used to feel the same. Now I know better and I’ve learned to listen then speak from the heart about how I’ve changed and why it matters. They’ve listened and heard and understand better and see. People can change. They do change. I try to be part of that now.A few other notes:
There is no remorse, no sadness. This is who he is, and he's known he is for 15+ years. He cried all his tears years ago, like we all have. What's left is acceptance. He accepted himself a long time ago, and loved himself, and now he's ready for the world to accept him. And gives absolutely ZERO FUCKS if you don't.
He's not coming out; he's letting others, and the entire world in. He's going to be just fine, and he'll be the grand marshal of pride parades and a motivational speaker for the rest of his life.
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I saw this on the news while I was visiting my parents early this evening just before dinner, and I watched their reactions. Mom was self-absorbed, not really paying attention. Dad pursed his lips and snickered. That's also who they are: they've been hateful people their whole lives, and they'll both be dead within five years. (Wonder no more as to where impatience comes from, @GeorgeCostanza though I suppress as much as I can. They didn't teach me how to laugh; I learned that on my own.)
Great post. The bit about your parents was upsetting to read, though obviously not as upsetting to live. It would just kill me over and over again if my parents demonstrated contempt or even ambivalence for who I was and how events like this affected me.A few other notes:
There is no remorse, no sadness. This is who he is, and he's known he is for 15+ years. He cried all his tears years ago, like we all have. What's left is acceptance. He accepted himself a long time ago, and loved himself, and now he's ready for the world to accept him. And gives absolutely ZERO FUCKS if you don't.
He's not coming out; he's letting others, and the entire world in. He's going to be just fine, and he'll be the grand marshal of pride parades and a motivational speaker for the rest of his life.
***
I saw this on the news while I was visiting my parents early this evening just before dinner, and I watched their reactions. Mom was self-absorbed, not really paying attention. Dad pursed his lips and snickered. That's also who they are: they've been hateful people their whole lives, and they'll both be dead within five years. (Wonder no more as to where impatience comes from, @GeorgeCostanza though I suppress as much as I can. They didn't teach me how to laugh; I learned that on my own.)
Amen, it's been a long time coming and there's still plenty of room to go but his announcement and the response to it is just so wonderful to see.This brings tears to my eyes.
He's a brave soul, but also kind, compassionate, and thoughtful. By not making it about him, and making it about the community, he's shown he's someone we in the the LBGTQIA+ community can rally around and support.
And one day, videos like this will be unnecessary.
This is what progress looks like.
The fact that this thread is under 50 posts at this point is encouraging by itself. Good for him and his delivered the message perfectly.The lack of outward vitriol toward him is a sure sign of progress. I’m honestly shocked, in a good way, that this isn’t an even bigger story. I think for NFL-aged players it simply not a big deal anymore. I hope so at least.