What a feeling this must be for him.
View: https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1407092969359003648?s=21
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Carl Nassib: 1st active NFL player to come out
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Hopefully this opens the floodgates in the NFL and other major sports.
Are there any other out current athletes in other major sports?
Are there any other out current athletes in other major sports?
He was hilarious on Hard Knocks a few years back too. Good for him. It’ll be a burden to carry the mantle, but hopefully he will receive a lot of support along the way.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN9WSgeETCo
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN9WSgeETCo
It was so nonchalant too, well done. Definitely +1 his comment about hoping this type of thing isn't needed in the future. I'm definitely tired of hearing about people's sexual preferences. It just shouldn't matter.
He's a very good looking dude, there might be a whole new set of Raiders fans
As much shit as the Raiders get, they are the most progressive and informed org. I respect how they are handling this.
He's a very good looking dude, there might be a whole new set of Raiders fans
As much shit as the Raiders get, they are the most progressive and informed org. I respect how they are handling this.
As he starts his next sentence after saying he's gay, he struggles for a moment to hold in an enormous grin so he can keep getting his message out. Awesome.
What an amazing place this world would be if we all had Carl Nassib's courage and sense of self-worth.
What an amazing place this world would be if we all had Carl Nassib's courage and sense of self-worth.
"What's up people, I'm Carl Nassib, I'm at my house here in West Chester, Pennsylvania, and I just wanna take a quick moment to say that I'm gay" is just an incredible quote. The nonchalance of it all has so much goofy football bro energy that it honestly makes me want to cry. But mostly it just makes me very happy for him.
After seeing the Raiders' reaction and support, I'm about to grab me a Carl Nassib Raiders jersey. This is just delightful. This kid is from my neck of the woods, too - West Chester, PA. Just fucking cool.
Realizing this doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things... but I don't really follow the NFL. So, a 3rd round pick in 2016, 20.5 career sacks... what would his career trajectory look like if this were not a factor (which it absolutely shouldn't be)? Does he have 5 more years in the league? Just trying to gauge what happens going forward versus what should have happened going forward -- and hopefully seeing no differences
Also, I, too, loved the unapologetic, even joyful delivery. Great message.
Also, I, too, loved the unapologetic, even joyful delivery. Great message.
Taking 15 years to finally share who you are has to be a great relief for Nassib.
Congratulations Mr Nassib and may your courage be helpful to others.
Congratulations Mr Nassib and may your courage be helpful to others.
Great to see the Raiders being supportive. It's another milestone for them to go along first hispanic starting quarterback, first hispanic head coach, first black head coach of the modern era, first female CEO.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/friv/age.cgi?month=1&day=1&year=1989
As the saying goes, NFL stands for Not For Long. Five years gets him to 33; pro football reference only lists 9 such linebackers, and that includes a long snapper and three guys who didn't play in 2020. Considering that he's already been waived once in his career, I don''t think anyone really would have raised an eyebrow if he washed out as soon as this season, although I'd defer to those who follow the Raiders more closely than I do.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/friv/age.cgi?month=1&day=1&year=1989
Good for him. It's tough being first. Hopefully others follow suit and it becomes easier to do so.
This is wonderful news. That takes a lot of courage, even in 2021. I hope many others follow throughout the pros.
This brings tears to my eyes.
He's a brave soul, but also kind, compassionate, and thoughtful. By not making it about him, and making it about the community, he's shown he's someone we in the the LBGTQIA+ community can rally around and support.
And one day, videos like this will be unnecessary.
This is what progress looks like.
He's a brave soul, but also kind, compassionate, and thoughtful. By not making it about him, and making it about the community, he's shown he's someone we in the the LBGTQIA+ community can rally around and support.
And one day, videos like this will be unnecessary.
This is what progress looks like.
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I like this version of Frat better than the one who yells at me.
Carl’s IG text posts that accompany the video were also very moving. Sucks that he’s on the Raiders but I’m a Nassib fan now regardless.
I hadn't thought of the power his nonchalant method could have. Good on you, Mr. Nassib. Go Raiders is something I never thought I would write.
Indeed it is. I'm hosting a pride month lunch chat at work with a host who is going to try and explain the current climate to many people who have know idea what they go through as a nonbinary individual. I wish we could book Nassib as well. What a wonderful video and the reaction it gives you makes me so happy for you!
A few other notes:
There is no remorse, no sadness. This is who he is, and he's known he is for 15+ years. He cried all his tears years ago, like we all have. What's left is acceptance. He accepted himself a long time ago, and loved himself, and now he's ready for the world to accept him. And gives absolutely ZERO FUCKS if you don't.
He's not coming out; he's letting others, and the entire world in. He's going to be just fine, and he'll be the grand marshal of pride parades and a motivational speaker for the rest of his life.
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I saw this on the news while I was visiting my parents early this evening just before dinner, and I watched their reactions. Mom was self-absorbed, not really paying attention. Dad pursed his lips and snickered. That's also who they are: they've been hateful people their whole lives, and they'll both be dead within five years. (Wonder no more as to where impatience comes from, @GeorgeCostanza though I suppress as much as I can. They didn't teach me how to laugh; I learned that on my own.)
There is no remorse, no sadness. This is who he is, and he's known he is for 15+ years. He cried all his tears years ago, like we all have. What's left is acceptance. He accepted himself a long time ago, and loved himself, and now he's ready for the world to accept him. And gives absolutely ZERO FUCKS if you don't.
He's not coming out; he's letting others, and the entire world in. He's going to be just fine, and he'll be the grand marshal of pride parades and a motivational speaker for the rest of his life.
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I saw this on the news while I was visiting my parents early this evening just before dinner, and I watched their reactions. Mom was self-absorbed, not really paying attention. Dad pursed his lips and snickered. That's also who they are: they've been hateful people their whole lives, and they'll both be dead within five years. (Wonder no more as to where impatience comes from, @GeorgeCostanza though I suppress as much as I can. They didn't teach me how to laugh; I learned that on my own.)
I was hoping to see a lot more active players supporting him by now. There have been a handful but not the mass I was hoping for.
Carl Nassib was the star of the Raiders Hard Knocks season, IMO. He was funny, thoughtful and an all around good guy, and this all just reinforces that. So happy to see this day, and was even happier to sit down with my kids last night (who are now 13 and 10) and explain why this was so important. Just awesome, awesome stuff.
Like others said, I hope we see a deluge of NFL players (and other athletes) jumping in to support him.
Like others said, I hope we see a deluge of NFL players (and other athletes) jumping in to support him.
This is great news, and I'm glad to see him so at peace with himself. I'm sure it wasn't easy getting there. Echoing the comments that I hope he continues to receive full support from the league and other athletes, and that this sort of thing quickly becomes commonplace. It's been way too long that athletes have had to hide who they are in these ways amidst their playing careers.
Beautiful post.
I won’t V&N this but anti-trans and non-binary discriminatory laws are going up all over the country in red states including the one I live in, Texas. My cohosts and I have covered it a few times on our pod (which is a mixture of queer culture and football). I’m NB but present as male outside the home. I’m out at work and to my family. It’s going to be a culture war for probably the next 5-10-20 years. I share Nassib’s vision that I just hope one day this stuff is all no big deal. I’m glad places like this forum exist and people in BBTL don’t make homo/trans/NB-phobic posts or comments. In fact it’s the opposite - people here are some of the most accepting and wonderful folks I know. Well… unless you’re a Stidham or Cam fan
My son isn’t cishet either and played football. We were both in a celebratory mood when news broke. Progress one day at a time. Happy pride month y’all.
I remember Carl as a devastating 6-foot-7 defensive lineman for Penn State. Defensive player of the year in the Big Ten as a senior under James Franklin. He walked on to the football team in 2011, the last year of Paterno that devolved into chaos and scandal. Bill O'Brien started playing Nassib in spots during the 2013 season. The kid just kept getting bigger and better. His brother, Ryan Nassib, was a QB at Syracuse.
Carl put up with a lot at Penn State. Most of the players never heard of Jerry Sandusky but they paid a price for his sins, and Paterno's malfeasance.
I only bring up this background because life is complicated. Carl Nassib makes all of us humans proud.
Carl put up with a lot at Penn State. Most of the players never heard of Jerry Sandusky but they paid a price for his sins, and Paterno's malfeasance.
I only bring up this background because life is complicated. Carl Nassib makes all of us humans proud.
The lack of outward vitriol toward him is a sure sign of progress. I’m honestly shocked, in a good way, that this isn’t an even bigger story. I think for NFL-aged players it simply not a big deal anymore. I hope so at least.
Doesn't matter, his career as a financial advisor is clearly going to take off once he retires.
Well except for that fact that your not going to get a 10 percent return with your money parked in a bank.
Did you see his clientele? They clearly don't know that.Well except for that fact that your not going to get a 10 percent return with your money parked in a bank.
I have a gay son who struggled immensely for a very long time before he came out a couple of years ago. He has only recently shared with me more of that struggle. If only I could have made it easier. This announcement matters it would have helped my son in this very sports obsessed town where he didn’t quite fit in. I bet he’d have played more. I wonder if he would have come out earlier and struggled less. This is why it matters when people come out. They change hearts. They save lives. I have had some talks this year with people who said they didn’t get why people felt the need to talk about private matters. I used to feel the same. Now I know better and I’ve learned to listen then speak from the heart about how I’ve changed and why it matters. They’ve listened and heard and understand better and see. People can change. They do change. I try to be part of that now.
Fratboy I’ve enjoyed your posts for years. I’m so sorry your parents are hateful. They’ve missed out on having a relationship with a really awesome person.
Great post. The bit about your parents was upsetting to read, though obviously not as upsetting to live. It would just kill me over and over again if my parents demonstrated contempt or even ambivalence for who I was and how events like this affected me.
It’s sadly not uncommon.
When my brothers partner died in 1987 from AIDS he called his parents and asked what they would like done with his ashes. They told him they didn’t want them and didn’t care.
When my brother died in 1988 also from AIDS at least he died with family my parents took him home. I don’t think they ever understood it all but I do know they always loved my brother. It’s heartbreaking really. How many lives lost because of ignorance and fear and hate. How many families torn apart by the inability to love.
Things are better for my son than they were for my brother. But there is still a very long way to go.
When my brothers partner died in 1987 from AIDS he called his parents and asked what they would like done with his ashes. They told him they didn’t want them and didn’t care.
When my brother died in 1988 also from AIDS at least he died with family my parents took him home. I don’t think they ever understood it all but I do know they always loved my brother. It’s heartbreaking really. How many lives lost because of ignorance and fear and hate. How many families torn apart by the inability to love.
Things are better for my son than they were for my brother. But there is still a very long way to go.
Amen, it's been a long time coming and there's still plenty of room to go but his announcement and the response to it is just so wonderful to see.
The fact that this thread is under 50 posts at this point is encouraging by itself. Good for him and his delivered the message perfectly.