Brogdon to Boston for Theis/Nesmith/2023 1st

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Overall like the deal. But this will be at least 2 straight years without a first rounder pending any further deals.
Sure but both times they moved them to get much better players than you expect to draft, as long as Wyc will write checks moving 1sts one year in advance is a nice way to get more talent at low risk
 

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Really like this move. The team is now really deep. The Thomas Bryant rumors make even more sense now.
 

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Smart can really just play focus on playing the Tony Allen role now, I hope, with some additional passing. But we shouldn't have to watch him run the offense for long stretches anymore.

I am so so happy we added a guard who can score from anywhere on the court AND pass. Desperately needed.
 

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Overall like the deal. But this will be at least 2 straight years without a first rounder pending any further deals.
Yeah, the C's sure benefitted from Romeo and AN.

It's not a big deal, the C's aren't in a position to develop rookies. Plus, they just opened a bajillion roster spots.
 

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I fucking love this move, and see no compelling reason to rush to trade one of White/Smart, given that we finally have the kind of guard depth we've been pining for. I'd be stoked to sign another big - preferably Thomas Bryant - and see how the team looks to start the season.

Though if they are looking at moving one of the current guards, I wonder if there's a way to get involved in a multi-team deal for Collins. Can't see ATL wanting White/Smart straight up now that they have Murray.
 

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Overall like the deal. But this will be at least 2 straight years without a first rounder pending any further deals.
3 years...don't care about missing out on the 30th pick ;)

Great trade. Brad collecting an "A" grade again this summer

buddies with Jaylen Brown
 

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I think it's more the turnovers than anything else. Smart's shooting isn't the problem.
Thax, should have added that to my question. I didn't follow much during the reg season, but the turnovers, team-we, in the playoffs were shocking to me
 

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How does this trade work from a cap perspective? He makes too much for the TPE and I don’t think the salaries match.
 

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Man you could start small too and field Brogdon-Smart-JT-JB-TL and that way you can limit Horford's minutes at 36 years old. You still have White as 6th man, Pritchard, Horford, Grant and Danilo off the bench.

Thats DEPTH.
 

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Dealing Theiss is also a win. He was absolutely abused on the defensive end for huge chunks of the playoffs. And he offers very little offensively. Glad he's off the roster.
 

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How does this trade work from a cap perspective? He makes too much for the TPE and I don’t think the salaries match.
They added Stauskas, Fitts and Morgan to match salaries.

Free money for those guys!

Congrats fellas.
 

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It's always a stark reminder that sports are just a business when a cult hero like Malik Fitts is so suddenly torn away. God speed, sweet prince.
 

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I think they saw, like us, that they need more playmaking especially with the 2nd unit.
Not to quibble, but we didn't just need playmaking, we needed someone who could score and get the ball moving without coughing it up every couple minutes, especially in crunch time. There's no reason anymore for Smart or Jaylen to have the ball in their hands for long stretches of time in disadvantageous matchups. Teams are going to really struggle to double-team Tatum if Brogdon is out there at the end of games instead of Smart or White. My two cents.
 

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2 1st rounders (inc Nesmith

and now you have 4 PG
 

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I hate this trade.


Because there's nothing to discuss. Such a no-brainer. Fingers crossed he will be healthy for the playoffs.

edit: No Pritch-slapped on this trade either. :)
 

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Not to quibble, but we didn't just need playmaking, we needed someone who could score and get the ball moving without coughing it up every couple minutes, especially in crunch time. There's no reason anymore for Smart or Jaylen to have the ball in their hands for long stretches of time in disadvantageous matchups. Teams are going to really struggle to double-team Tatum if Brogdon is out there at the end of games instead of Smart or White. My two cents.
a healthy Brogdon would be the Celtics' best PG
 

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I am not reading any post in this thread yet…….

but if there is one person who even remotely, no wait. If there is one person who doesn’t absolutely LOVE this trade I will question your sanity as a Celtics fan. Holy crap Brad Fvckin Stevens!!!!!!
 

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Not to quibble, but we didn't just need playmaking, we needed someone who could score and get the ball moving without coughing it up every couple minutes, especially in crunch time. There's no reason anymore for Smart or Jaylen to have the ball in their hands for long stretches of time in disadvantageous matchups. Teams are going to really struggle to double-team Tatum if Brogdon is out there at the end of games instead of Smart or White. My two cents.
I tend to agree with you here. Playmaking, ball handling, creating were all needs. Brogdon can get to the line and he shoots almost 90% from the line. Good defensively too. In terms of what the team needed, a healthy Brodgon is it.
 

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And that's why Smart/White/Brogdon can all co-exist. Injuries are likely to make enough minutes available, and also we can keep everyone fresh for the playoffs.
With Horford being 35 or 36, adding 2 decent players and losing none of your core 7 seems like a no brainer.
 

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I am not reading any post in this thread yet…….

but if there is one person who even remotely, no wait. If there is one person who doesn’t absolutely LOVE this trade I will question your sanity as a Celtics fan. Holy crap Brad Fvckin Stevens!!!!!!
Aaaaaaaand...

FIGHT
 

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I tend to agree with you here. Playmaking, ball handling, creating were all needs. Brogdon can get to the line and he shoots almost 90% from the line. Good defensively too. In terms of what the team needed, a healthy Brodgon is it.
Yeah, I mean I'm over the moon.

Hate it
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2 1st rounders (inc Nesmith

and now you have 4 PG
I see exactly one bonafide All-Star PG in Brogdon, Smart, who has really been miscast as a PG and is really better when he's focusing on defense, White, who's best as a back-up, and PP, who is a point guard... in summer league.
 

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Have to think Pritchard is heading out.
I'd think someone bigger than that is going out.

Unless the Celtics start smaller, or move Horford, I sadly think Smart is going out.

I don't see either Brogdon or Smart being happy coming off the bench, and they shouldn't be.

They're both too good.
 

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I guess the injury history did a number on Brogdon's value, but I'm still a little surprised the Pacers couldn't get more for him. Maybe they like Nesmith and think they can flip Theis to a contender at some point, but the first rounder Boston sent them seems unlikely to be particularly good. This trade feels all about getting the most minutes possible for Duarte and Haliburton, which I like for the Pacers, as Brogdon doesn't really fit with the rest of the roster at this point.

I'm thrilled.
 

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Have to think Pritchard is heading out.
Just getting back into hoops after not watching much for twenty years but why? He's pretty cheap and not a terrible fourth guard/ninth or tenth man, especially with some injury prone points in front of him.
 

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I'd think someone bigger than that is going out.

Unless the Celtics start smaller, or move Horford, I sadly think Smart is going out.

I don't see either Brogdon or Smart being happy coming off the bench, and they shouldn't be.

They're both too good.
I think Brogdon coming off injury will be fine easing in... Season 2 though...
 

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So we just dumped 5 people we don't need for someone who could possibly be playing in the crunch time in the Finals??? Sign me up!!
 

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I assume a lot of load games off for Horford, Brogdon, Time Lord, etc. and not prioritizing top seeding