Davante Adams doesn't play defense.
But you highlighted the Bears trade out of #1 for picks and Moore as a positive. I guess that’s why I don’t see your posts as consistent. It’s a similar scenario to what you just highlighted as pursuing.
If you can find the player who is worth 7 wins on their own I think we should try to acquire him. What are you actually arguing here?
Would love to know how the Raiders “IMPROVED DRAMATICALLY” after the Adams deal
The point is you’re draining resources, either via trade or salary cap to get these guys. So if they become overvalued, in a sport with a fixed cap, chasing them doesn’t lead to huge success. You claimed, obnoxiously in all caps, that it led to dramatic improvement. Neither team even made the playoffs. Both coaches got fired. That doesn’t strike me as a success story. You arguing the rest of the team was bad is exactly my point.
I want to believe the same, but the pre-divisional round hiring freeze for currently employed coaches gives a bit more wiggle room on decision time than in previous years. They're not necessarily missing out on Johnson etc if they don't decide this week. Vrabel being available might spur some action - technically, I believe he is free to sign on as coach anywhere as soon as right now.
Grading on this curve I suppose you'd think the Bears lost their trade with Carolina since Chicago didn't make the playoffs this year then, right?
Well, I didn't bring up Cooks and Elijah Moore.
Well, then make that argument. What resources did Adams drain from the Raiders that would have left them in a better position? Same with Hopkins in Arizona?
Well, only if that team has satisfied the Rooney Rule, and no one has done that yet. So this week won't cause any issues.
No. Quite the opposite. The point is they traded for 3 assets, not just the WR. The WR was the smallest asset they acquired and despite adding him they were terrible. To get a dramatic improvement you need to acquire lots of assets, not to all in for 1.
You're not reading the thread if you think nobody is questioning Belichick.
Oh I am. We have no news so I was just riffing off your post.
It seems like these two things have become a staple of SoSH arguments recently.
The absolute worst thing you can do is go 7-9 to 9-7 every year and have no chance of actual success every year. You need to be improving consistently until it’s unsustainable. That may look like 4-13, 6-11, 8-9, 11-6 or it may look like the Browns did years ago stockpiling picks, or the Bears. The WR is the last piece you add not the first.
Precisely. The idea that a double digit win season is pointless because the team isn't going to win a Super Bowl is crazy to me. The days of Super Bowl or the season sucked are gone. Obviously I hope they can win it all again, but at this point I'll take signs of incremental improvement and an exciting football team with some young players that play hard.
After this season, I long for 8-9 or 9-8
I think this is a wild take, at least the second half. The first half would be fair, but to act like that book is written already is premature.
Miami also only drafted 8 total players the last 2 years and the only decent one (thus far) is Achane who is obviously a dynamic player but a rotational RB isn’t a “keep the window open” type of building block. Not a pipeline of young and cheap talent coming
No one wants to go 8-8 every year (and of course no one can since they play 17 games now). But there’s a clear suggestion among some here that if you’re not a SB contender then your season is worthless and you might as well suck hard.
Baltimore Ravens record:
Who is saying this? We should shame them. 10-7 would be excellent improvement.
I don’t think anyone would disagree.
So they improved by a total of 6 wins and scored about 100 more points in the two seasons after the trade. Hopkins didn't play in the postseason after tearing his MCL (where they lost to the eventual Super Bowl winner in the first round).
Idk I think the 4 added wins for a team that was 3-14 in the immediate preceding year and started Tyson Bagent for half of this season are at least partially attributable to acquiring a wide receiver who caught 96 passes for 1400 yards.
You made the rules, my man. You said the worst thing a team can do is go 9-7. Well the Ravens averaged that over two years. So that *wasn’t* the worst thing?
What are you talking about? I clearly stated, far too often in here as I’m now overwhelming the thread responding, that the worst thing is constantly being in the 7-9, 9-7 range. The Ravens clearly weren’t that. As I showed. Somehow you doubled down despite being shown the evidence. And I didn’t even add the context of their down year. But good try, I guess. You sure showed everyone on here that the Ravens path is desirable. Find someone that disagrees and I’ll buy you a coke.
2020--started rookie QB, injured half the season
I don't think that was it at all now having seen some of the Strunk quotes. I think they lost faith in his ability to put together a staff and have a plan on offense. Wouldn't be surprised to see them make an offensive hire to pair with Levis. Think it might have been Strunk coming down to a decision of "do I ask him to fire his coordinators, or do I just let him go" Their offense has been pretty horrendous by all measures the last 2 years, even with Tannehill healthy, and in 2021 the offense graded out a bit below average despite the record (overall DVOA hated that team as well), and the last couple years the Pass D and ST play have cratered as well. Run D has been good, but that's about it. Of course the talent has fallen off too, but I think they were unhappy with the development of players, and after firing RObinson next on the block was either Vrabel or his coordinators and O-line coach. Think they decided Vrabel didn't fit going forward and they'd roll the dice on a new coach developing Levis better.
After a season where their QB got hurt (which will tank anyone’s season), the Dolphins had the 5th best point differential in the league this season, and Tua was a top-5 QB by most advanced metrics. Judging the success of McDaniel’s two year tenure by whether they beat the Chiefs this weekend is a bad approach.
View: https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1745107564549845053
The reasoning behind this is that once he started calling the defense after Alvin Williams resigned, the unit made a marked improvement. Now, does that have more to do with Eberflus, or adding Marquez Sweat? Who knows.
Yeah, maybe availability of Vrabel tipped a decision in Seattle?
Clearly head of training to get players pumped and jacked.
