Aaron Hernandez charged with 1st degree murder; released by Patriots
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mauidano said:
The article reeks. The vibe I get (grain of salt, etc.) is that some corrupt guard/s let Hernadez beat the fuck out of someone, and that TMZ is doing a bang up job of marketing Hernandez to the greater prison population, who may seek to fuck with Hernandez, as a dude not to be messed with.
Two things never happened again after that. The Sisters never laid a finger on Hernandez again...and Boggs never walked again.
Well they have "sources" leaking a pro-Hernandez story that makes him look like the sort of chap you don't want to eff with so yeah I'd say so.
mauidano said:
Unless he was given more freedom in the past few months it's definitely suspicious.
Prison guard corruption certainly isn't a Hollywood invention. It's certainly possible that he made arrangements. However, they usually do stuff that is unlikely to blow back on them. In this case, you'd think any guards involved would be in a serious shit-storm right now.
BTW - I always thought the term was "jawing".
At his Pro Day (he didn't work out at the combine due to a back injury) Hernandez's broad jump was 9' 3".
He now lives in a room that is 10' long.
He now lives in a room that is 10' long.
Reverend said:
But I guess now there are "sources"...
Being jacked and having tattoos didn't stop the guy he beat up from beefing with him, so why would it stop the next guy?
Reverend said:
A simpler treatment is to ask ourselves whether the guys in solitary with him have demonstrated good judgement thusfar in life.
Reverend said:
Well I'm not saying TMZ will tip the scales, I'm saying that cratering some guys face will. The TMZ angle is just a grotesque, modern day twist on the story.
Rovin Romine said:
You mean in terms of getting sent to jail while, like, already in jail? :buddy:
As per my initial statement on the matter, we must remember that there are people stupider than Aaron Hernandez. On the other hand, I once saw a guy get 10 days in ad-seg by attempting to get some pretty girls to look at him (rolled a basketball at them in the gym and hit one on the leg). I posted about it and many here agreed that a chance at a smile from a pretty girl while in prison might well be worth the price.
His judgment no better. Probably will be dinged for 4-game suspension for violating personal conduct policy, after his inevitable acquittal. Would be a *massive overreaction*, but you still have to control your emotions. He's continuing to hurt the team.Rovin Romine said:
So, wait, beating up a defenseless dude in handcuffs does not seem to me to be the way to prove you are a jailhouse tough guy. So does this mean that TMZ was fed the story to bolster the other guy's rep?
Coffeenerdness, we need your take on this.
Coffeenerdness, we need your take on this.
My take is that it had nothing to do with proving his level of tough guy. He's in solitary, this guy relentlessly fucks with him in part because he knows AH will never be in a situation where they are alone. That didn't work out so well and he got the beating, cuffs on or not. AH knew it may have been his only chance, so cuffs be damned he unloaded.
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BREAKING: Aaron Hernandez punished for prison fight. Restrictive unit for 30 days/23 hr a day meals too Cuffed & chained when out of cell
https://twitter.com/NBC10_Dan/status/438842932553318400
BREAKING: Aaron Hernandez punished for prison fight. Restrictive unit for 30 days/23 hr a day meals too Cuffed & chained when out of cell
https://twitter.com/NBC10_Dan/status/438842932553318400
PaulinMyrBch said:
Cuffs or not -- what? This is the biggest pussy maneuver ever and you're talking like it shows what a stud AH. Give me a break -- having cuffs "or not" is a relevant factor. To me it's just the cherry on the pie of this guy being a huge loser, and of a piece with the sort of character that has played out through this whole episode.
Might be a little different if you are someone who must realize you will never, ever be in a "or not" situation again.Tony C said:
PaulinMyrBch said:
Sounds like Costanza getting attacked in the airplane lavatory by the shackled felon on that episode of Seinfeld.
I'm not defending the guy, just taking my stab at what his motivation was. IMO it had nothing to do with proving himself. It was retribution, plain and simple.Tony C said:
Yes he's a loser, its not news.
soxhop411 said:
As an FYI, this is an administrative punishment. He can still be separately charged with an independent crime (battery).
Often prison batteries are not prosecuted. There are problems getting the average witnesses to cooperate (labeled as soft/snitches) and problems with juries (most find the witnesses not credible, self defense is easy to raise, many privately think prisoners should be subjected to inter-prisoner violence).
If a prisoner is high profile enough, the incident was caught on tape, or the damage is exceptionally severe, you do occasionally see prosecutions.
Rovin Romine said:
Yeah, not to mention difficult for the administration and guards to explain why a cuffed prisoner was beaten for a minute by an uncuffed prisoner. It's like a sausage factory or an NFL locker room - outsiders don't understand the culture.
soxfan121 said:
I took an indecent exposure case to trial once - an inmate in the jail was apparently masturbating in front of one of the female guards. She told him to stop, he continued, and they arrested him for it. That was a "not guilty" in about 30 minutes.
My former trial partner and I still get a good chuckle out of the arguments we used. The prosecutor is probably still furious about it.
Does Florida let you do voir dire during jury selection in a case like this? Because I think I would have paid admission to watch that.Rovin Romine said:
maufman said:
Oh yes. FL has very permissive void dire rules. I did the void dire - took about an hour and a half for my portion. Packed house - all the interns and a couple of my colleagues came to watch. The prosecutor was so turned about/embarrassed that she basically let me pre-try the case.
In fact, we were sort of surprised we ended up in trail - we thought the embarrassment/absurdity factor would drive down the offer to something reasonable. It still cracks me up. We tried to do it straight faced but couldn't. In retrospect, I think the laughter helped. Laughing juries are more likely to let something slide.
One prospective female juror (not seated) said something along the lines of: "and I don't know, isn't it like, like torture, to make someone stop halfway?" I soft-pedaled the response (don't even remember what I said), but my trial partner later told me he'd have given me nearly anything if I'd responded with, "God bless you ma'am!"
Ralphwiggum said:
Because prison is clearly a place where people fight like gentleman? He annihilated the guy - message delivered - whether that was his intention or not.
CoffeeNerdness said:
Considering the guy had requested being released into general population but their reason for keeping him in solitary was because they feared he'd be a great prize for others to reinforce their tough guy cred, this was a monstrously stupid thing to do.
DrewDawg said:
I've been trying to figure that out too. I mean, even when he works out it's in this little fenced cage where he can't even effectively go for runs. Not getting how he was just cruising the halls without a CO present and making sure nobody else was around.
Edit: For some perspective, I've attached a picture of where Hernandez gets to exercise.
Reverend said:
I missed the article that reported that he wanted to get put in general population, can you link that?
He can't run the route tree in there, can he?Reverend said:
I've been trying to figure that out too. I mean, even when he works out it's in this little fenced cage where he can't even effectively go for runs. Not getting how he was just cruising the halls without a CO present and making sure nobody else was around.
Edit: For some perspective, I've attached a picture of where Hernandez gets to exercise.
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