6/24- White Sox- good teams beat bad teams 2.0
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Sheez...Gravemann can't hit the outer ring of a bullseye, then comes back with three filthy pitches.
I didn't expect him to be a 1.400+ OPS guy when he came back, but every at bat being utterly futile right now is hard to watch.
I'm fine with deploying your best guys when you still have a chance to win. No sense saving them and letting a lesser guy lose it for you.
Uhh...why not? Yoshida's spot probably won't come back to the plate anyay, and Ref's a better defender.
I didn't see every second of this, but this kid Hamilton catching seems to lack Wong's ability to throw guys out at second. Or was that not key to this loss?
Well, Cora did get that extra inning out of Winckowski. So it's kind of like a win, because - infinite games to play!
I think Wong would have thrown that guy out by feet, to the point that they probably wouldn't even have tried to steal.
Huh? This was on Paxton getting hurt, and Winckowski not being ready to pitch. Plus the Casas error. How the F is either of those on Cora?
catcher set up at top of zone and Jansen missed with 6 straight pitches down the middle. No adjustment, just bad pitching.
Can they just cut Duvall now? Dude is toast after that injury and isn't going to get his stroke back until August, long after no other team wants to acquire him. If it wasn't for shit injury luck in this town lately...
Because Cora left him in there for the second inning where it was obvious after the first he didn't have it. Cora screwed this up
Easy to second guess, but Wong finally gets a hit, they pinch hit Refsnyder, who cannot hit right handers, and leaves them without a good catcher in a tie game. It hurt. Wong throws that guy out.
You'd rather have Joe Jacques in there? Or Garza? This is a shit bullpen right now.
It’s insane that the manager keeps getting blamed for guys not making plays/pitches.
Winckowski wasn't ready? Really?
First off, whose fault is it if players are not ready? And second, why in the fuck did he come out for a second inning if he wasn't ready? You know, the one where he gave up two bombs right after the Sox just got the lead back. Whose call was that?
That stupid move more than anything else cost this team the game.
Pinchhitting for Wong was definitely a defensible move, but damn he is such a weapon behind the plate
They would have a worse record than the White Sox right now if the managers were switched. Cora is getting the most out of a bad roster. The fact that they’re over .500 is a miracle, and has a lot to do with the clubhouse atmosphere that Cora creates.
How about that Murphy kid who came in right after Wink blew it and threw two lights out innings? How about him?
It's not a shit bullpen. It's a shit manager who doesn't know what he's doing.
9 out of 10 Red Sox Consultants agree a player should be fully healthy before you DFA them.
Are you out of your fucking mind? They have four guys who literally wouldn't be on any major league roster but the Sox right now.
Kaleb Ort
joe Jacques
Justin Garza
Bernandino
And that's not counting another AAA player in Murphy, plus a failed starter in Pivetta. They have three decent pitchers in the pen right now, and one of them was Winckowski.
View: https://twitter.com/gfstarr1/status/1672726673043628032?s=46
And if Murphy came in and had no control?
you are yelling into the void based on hindsight
this should be copied and pasted into webster’s baseball dictionary under “shit bullpen”
Agreed. These mistakes are going to hurt in games like this. It was a tough play but Casas needs to make that out. And not being able to make a decent throw to second as a catcher, especially with the new rules, is an issue. The umpire screwed us in a few key spots too.
Bernardino has been a pretty good player. 0.8 WAR, 2.53 ERA, 20:6 K/BB ratio. And he’s left-handed, and every team clamors for a lefty out of the pen.