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Wait, hold on. Pause on the Dolphins analysis for a second.

Who came up with the new thread title? Bravo.
 

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I agree 100% and think it's more likely that he rests another week, despite finally practicing. My #1 concern about the Pats is there very tough, physical front; thus, I prefer to see Miami roll out the unit that's played the most together this offseason. Let TA practice another week and get the rust off versus Denver at home.

I'm also expecting Fangio to call a more aggressive gameplan this week. I think NE will run and dink and dunk effectively otherwise.
I just think Mac and the Pats pose less of a threat to throw deep, and they’re a far greater threat to play ball control and keep the ball from Miami’s offense.

In that instance, they need to be more proactive in the run game and short passing and less concerned with the risk of the ball over the top. We’ll see how Vic decides to handle it.
Haha, had to be @sodenj5. He’s been the creative leader here over the last few years.

Perfect thread title.
Haha, thread title was my update.
 

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2-0 with two road victories to start the season.

Defense came prepared for the challenge and was far more stout against the run. Not a perfect performance, but a significant improvement over last week.

Offense, the running game came through. Mostert was great on the ground, handling the bulk of the work. Belichick did what he does, and he schemed away the deep shots and kept a lid on Tyreek. He wanted to force Tua and McDaniel to execute underneath, and for the most part they did.

2-0 without Armstead either game. Without Ramsey. And without Phillips either this game. Great testament to the depth of the roster and the coaching job on both sides of the ball. Butch Barry has made Kendall Lamm and Austin Jackson look like passable tackles. Connor Williams and Tua have to get the snaps cleaned up. I say Tua because I think that last fumble that forced the long FG attempt was on Tua, but Williams also sent a few bad ones back there that Tua wrangled.

Home against Denver next week.
 

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Pretty good to go to Cali and then Mass and come away 2-0. D still seems like a bit of a problem but no one in the AFC looks better at this point.
 

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Their quick timing routes look unstoppable given the pressure the WRs put on the safeties, but nothing ever is in this league so I wonder who will give them problems and how. Maybe the NYJ, Phi or Dallas. They were pretty clearly the better team last night but let the Pats hang around. 2-0 is a good start but both of the games were closer than they should have been. I was impressed with Mostert, although it may also have been shitty tackling by NE.
 

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here is my 02 on denver much better on off this year but weaker on def unless u overlook us for buffalo u should win by 10-14 pts
 

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Appreciate your insight!
no plom denver has never played well in miami i think they are 1-8 all time there

on off look for denver to try and run and sit up the deep pass denver is underrated at WR because they have 4 guys that can play jerdy is very up/down but has a lot of talent
B Johnson is much better than i thouht i just throught he was a jag but long term can be a num 2 wr as soon as 2024 mims is the deep theat sutton is the 10 yard man underterth

denver also has 3 nice RB Mcguilugh is a young D Sparlos SD pajme from ciny last yaar can run and catch J Williams is a bulldozier

TE are just blocking guys without duluch

OL is poor at pass blk u will get sacks chubb shouild have 1 or 2

DL is good on paper but something feels off like they have no pass rush push
OLB are very up/down but they just go for sacks
surtain is outstaiuding but we have a hold at num 2 CB
K Jackson is just a headhunter at this point all he wants is the big hit cant cover is a run safty

V Joseph plays the DB'S 10 yards back

and denver has a bad habit or on 3rd down on def giveing up a play or pently
 

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The Dolphins are coming off of a big division win ... they're enjoying a media lovefest ... and they'll be facing a desperate, 0-2 team with a game versus Buffalo looming a week afterwards. Yeah, this is the definition of a trap game.

I do like that Sunday is a 1 PM home game, however. Historically, "we" have been tough to beat in this context.
 

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the crazy part is if denver wins this game they sit themselves up to be 3-2 going into thur night aga KC in week 6
 

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Justin Simmons and Frank Clark not playing for Denver this weekend is a big blow to their defense.

Miami may seems like Phillips will be returning, but Waddle and Armstead are questionable.
 

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Waddle officially ruled out and Robbie Chosen is being elevated from the practice squad.
 

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Michael Irvin on NFL Gameday Morning today: "I am on the Miami Dolphins to go to the Super Bowl".

Sorry Miami fans, kiss of death right there.
 

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Michael Irvin on NFL Gameday Morning today: "I am on the Miami Dolphins to go to the Super Bowl".

Sorry Miami fans, kiss of death right there.
Not for this game. Miami might put up 50 on Sean Payton and the Broncos.
 

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Also to the nerds that were trying to downplay Miami’s start because their point differential wasn’t that spectacular, how’s a +50 for you?
 

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As unstoppable as Miami’s offense has been, let’s pump the brakes a little. They faced three bad teams (LA is mediocre) to start the season. Having said, they should be #1 in the power rankings this week. Great game coming up against Buffalo.
 

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As unstoppable as Miami’s offense has been, let’s pump the brakes a little. They faced three bad teams (LA is mediocre) to start the season. Having said, they should be #1 in the power rankings this week. Great game coming up against Buffalo.
Is it OK to wait 'til, like, tomorrow to pump the brakes? What with this being an all-time NFL performance and all? Geez. Also, for what it's worth, the first two wins were conference games on the road. Always big in this league.
 

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Is it OK to wait 'til, like, tomorrow to pump the brakes? What with this being an all-time NFL performance and all? Geez. Also, for what it's worth, the first two wins were conference games on the road. Always big in this league.
Celebrate the success, for sure. My point is don’t get too cocky when we have tougher opponents ahead. The Dolphins are super fast and talented while missing hood players.
 

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As unstoppable as Miami’s offense has been, let’s pump the brakes a little. They faced three bad teams (LA is mediocre) to start the season. Having said, they should be #1 in the power rankings this week. Great game coming up against Buffalo.
I like your narrative shift. I would certainly argue Denver is the only “bad” team they’ve played.
 

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Also to the nerds that were trying to downplay Miami’s start because their point differential wasn’t that spectacular, how’s a +50 for you?
You’re a dolphins fan you should be massively pro nerd right now with your terrific coach who probably does play dungeons and dragons on the side
 

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You’re a dolphins fan you should be massively pro nerd right now with your terrific coach who probably does play dungeons and dragons on the side
I’m pro nerd. I’m anti people looking to poke holes in what looks like one of the best offenses in the history of football through three weeks.

Also, I look forward to people continuing to find new and interesting ways to denigrate Tua while complimenting Miami’s offense.
 

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I’m pro nerd. I’m anti people looking to poke holes in what looks like one of the best offenses in the history of football through three weeks.

Also, I look forward to people continuing to find new and interesting ways to denigrate Tua while complimenting Miami’s offense.
Not me! Tua is playing great the dolphins offense is great and the only question is how long can they keep this up!
 

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great game u are the afc fav but your DB'S are a worry denver had 2 more TD'S that was stopped by your takeaways to win it all u need 35 a game can u do that aga KC BAIT etc
 

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great game u are the afc fav but your DB'S are a worry denver had 2 more TD'S that was stopped by your takeaways to win it all u need 35 a game can u do that aga KC BAIT etc
I'm just a little surprised the Broncos took nothing from the Patriots 3-safety defense. Payton was cool with just getting carved up, I guess.
 

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The dolphins post game quotes today were gold. Some great double edged ones. Maybe my fave
Tua Tagovailoa on decision not to kick for NFL scoring record: “We’re not trying to humiliate teams.”
 

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The Phins really missed Waddle yesterday! What a fun offense to watch, and any team that sticks it to Payton like that is alright by me. Really looking forward to the Bills game this Sunday...
 

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Let’s not forget, they already won their Super Bowl. It’s in the books.

This offense looks bonkers. A healthy Tua and the AFC East is wide open (between the Bills and the Phins).
 

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I’m pro nerd. I’m anti people looking to poke holes in what looks like one of the best offenses in the history of football through three weeks.

Also, I look forward to people continuing to find new and interesting ways to denigrate Tua while complimenting Miami’s offense.
This may sound like a weird comp, but I get some Kurt Warner vibes from Tua (ok maybe not so weird given the thread title). Warner didn't have a huge arm, sometimes threw a wobbly ball, etc. But he was the QB for one of the best offenses of all time. He hit Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt and they went up and down the field and scored a zillion points. Warner obviously eventually ended up in the HOF; if Tua ends up there too, you'd obviously be thrilled. So, credit to Tua for what he is doing, similar to Warner back in the day. It does feel to me that other guys could be doing similarly in that offense; but again, that's impossible to prove. If I had my pick of QB to start a team Tua probably wouldn't be in the top 10 (I haven't given it a ton of thought). But he's producing and they're scoring the points and you can't take that away from him.
 

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The Phins really missed Waddle yesterday! What a fun offense to watch, and any team that sticks it to Payton like that is alright by me. Really looking forward to the Bills game this Sunday...
This was an insane game. Every time I looked up, the Dolphins had the ball on Denver's 20. And then they scored. It didn't stop. I have never seen anything like it. I just looked up again and Miami has the ball on the Denver 18. On a Monday.
 

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This was an insane game. Every time I looked up, the Dolphins had the ball on Denver's 20. And then they scored. It didn't stop. I have never seen anything like it. I just looked up again and Miami has the ball on the Denver 18. On a Monday.
You would think that to score 70, they would have had a bunch of short fields, maybe defensive or special teams scores, but I think 8 of their 10 TD drives were 68+ yards. 726 yards is almost more impressive to me than 70 points. 350+ yards both through the air and ground.
 

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Let’s not forget, they already won their Super Bowl. It’s in the books.

This offense looks bonkers. A healthy Tua and the AFC East is wide open (between the Bills and the Phins).
Hey man, Tua is 5-0 against the Patriots. We don’t celebrate wins against them anymore.

This may sound like a weird comp, but I get some Kurt Warner vibes from Tua (ok maybe not so weird given the thread title). Warner didn't have a huge arm, sometimes threw a wobbly ball, etc. But he was the QB for one of the best offenses of all time. He hit Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt and they went up and down the field and scored a zillion points. Warner obviously eventually ended up in the HOF; if Tua ends up there too, you'd obviously be thrilled. So, credit to Tua for what he is doing, similar to Warner back in the day. It does feel to me that other guys could be doing similarly in that offense; but again, that's impossible to prove. If I had my pick of QB to start a team Tua probably wouldn't be in the top 10 (I haven't given it a ton of thought). But he's producing and they're scoring the points and you can't take that away from him.
Everyone said that Tua is a left-handed Drew Brees during his pre-draft evaluations. I think that pretty much nails it. Tua is a little bigger and taller than Brees was, but I think they play the game in the same way, with similar strengths and weaknesses.

I think it took a few years for Tua’s arms strength to come back after his hip injury. He doesn’t have an elite arm by any means, but it’s significantly better than it was his rookie year.
You would think that to score 70, they would have had a bunch of short fields, maybe defensive or special teams scores, but I think 8 of their 10 TD drives were 68+ yards. 726 yards is almost more impressive to me than 70 points. 350+ yards both through the air and ground.
I think this is the biggest difference from last year. Last year, McDaniel kept trying to force the passing game, even when teams had started to figure out how to slow it down.

Miami’s seeing all these light boxes, and they’re absolutely gashing teams in the running game now.
 

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You would think that to score 70, they would have had a bunch of short fields, maybe defensive or special teams scores, but I think 8 of their 10 TD drives were 68+ yards. 726 yards is almost more impressive to me than 70 points. 350+ yards both through the air and ground.
It was the most points scored by RBs in fantasy football history. Just amazing.
 

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So far this AM, I haven't seen any national media gasping about running up the score yesterday. Weird.
Probably because a.) Sean Payton is a douchebag and has done it many times to other teams and b.) Miami gave them a mercy kneel down instead of tying the all time record.
 

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Probably because a.) Sean Payton is a douchebag and has done it many times to other teams and b.) Miami gave them a mercy kneel down instead of tying the all time record.
You must have missed 2007.

Link

Rather than taking the guaranteed points on a short FG, the Pats ran a FB dive on 4th down. And everyone started clutching private bits.
 

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Not counting their end of 1st half possession (one play, six yards, end of half), they had 13 possessions:

10 touchdowns
1 punt
2 turnovers on downs

Of their TD possessions:
- 2 were very short fields (1 play, 3 yards, TD, 2 plays, 8 yards, TD)
- 7 were 75 yards or more

That's unbelievable, to have SEVEN possessions of 75+ yards for TDs.
 

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While I agree with the overall point, can we not make every thread about the Patriots? Double true for perceived sleights we had to "endure" during the greatest stretch in NFL history.

I hate the Dolphins. And while I admit to a level of schadenfreude if Tua or Hill were to go down with an injury, it really would be a shame. This offense is a lot of fun to watch.
 

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Not counting their end of 1st half possession (one play, six yards, end of half), they had 13 possessions:

10 touchdowns
1 punt
2 turnovers on downs

Of their TD possessions:
- 2 were very short fields (1 play, 3 yards, TD, 2 plays, 8 yards, TD)
- 7 were 75 yards or more

That's unbelievable, to have SEVEN possessions of 75+ yards for TDs.
Just insane... I wish I had watched some of it.... I assume those youtube 10-12 minutes highlight videos NFL usually puts out will be about 30 minutes this week for this game
 

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So far this AM, I haven't seen any national media gasping about running up the score yesterday. Weird.
This will become a story if it happens a few more times. For now, Miami is a feel-good up and comer, who will challenge KC, etc. If they hang 70 on Buf next week you can bet McDermott will be crying.