2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread
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Adam Silver is going to roll out an In-Tournament In-Season Tournament instead of fixing the problem the league has with horrible officiating. Let's just have a nesting doll of tournaments.
It's crazy to remember that he played with Tatum at Duke, and was drafted a year later. He really does look 10-15 years older than Tatum.
Bad fall for Dereck Lively, had to be helped off the court.
He's turned into a real real good two-way NBA player though which I did not expect.
Lakers with a furious 4th quarter comeback led by LeBron. Finally take the lead but then give up an open 3 to Kyrie to go down by 1. LeBron inexplicably tries to make a pass to a completely covered Davis that gets picked off and the Lakers lose. Such a shame.
That was such a terrible pass. Both in decision and execution. Don’t forget he also missed (another) buzzer beater!
Looking forward to the game tomorrow. It's fun when a young team is bad, bad, bad....gets some guys, but still bad.....and then it starts coming together rapidly.
Ehh, yeah, I remember that. But still it wasn't exactly a James Harden, Lillard or Kyrie situation. They got about the same amount of reason to boo him as Cleveland does to boo Lebron.
Am I crazy to think Giannis has lost half a step? His numbers are great as usual, but they're always going to be great against random regular season teams.
He just doesn't *feel* as scary going to the rim; even Hauser on him wasn't an emergency. A lot of his paint misses were pretty badly off too, and he was having a tough time getting great position.
He just doesn't *feel* as scary going to the rim; even Hauser on him wasn't an emergency. A lot of his paint misses were pretty badly off too, and he was having a tough time getting great position.
I thought I was taking crazy pills last night because I had the same thought. He’s obviously still amazing, but it doesn’t look or feel the way it did 2 years ago. I don’t know if it’s that he has slowed down a step or if he’s making different choices, but it doesn’t feel like he’s playing like a middle linebacker anymore, which may just be about the impact that style of play had on him.
He is 100% frustrated, even refusing to go to the bench early.
GA just signed up long-term to be stuck with a toasty Middleton, and quickly aging Dame/Brook. It may get bumpy with a rookie HC. The BUCKs have received some early, unsustainable 3pt shooting from Beasley, Payne, & Crowder, but that shits a mirage.
They need to quickly develop Beauchamp and Jackson into rotation players so Giannis doesn't have to do all the heavy lifting.
I'm very interested in the Orlando game, that's an EC team that should start scaring us as much as Milwaukee and Philly.
An irrepressible force vs a Granite object:
View: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentel/status/1727533624524677340
View: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentel/status/1727533624524677340
A little smoke out there regarding Josh Giddey having sex with a very underaged girl.
There was a Twitter thread that was deleted, but there’s pics of him shirtless and posing with a girl who is ALLEGEDLY a sophomore in HS with a caption that said, “Just fucked Josh Giddey.” Seems to be developing.
There was a Twitter thread that was deleted, but there’s pics of him shirtless and posing with a girl who is ALLEGEDLY a sophomore in HS with a caption that said, “Just fucked Josh Giddey.” Seems to be developing.
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Edit: It's more than smoke. I take that back even the nba cant ignore this.
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DARKO has some early signal agreeing with you... will be interesting to watch.
He has had some knee issues and a "clean up" procedure this summer, that always worries me a bit. Guys who can't shoot well also tend to have a tougher time as they age.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37965067/giannis-antetokounmpo-uncertain-world-cup-knee-surgery-sources-confirm
He's still amazing, but if he's not an MVP level player the Bucks are in trouble.
Didn't know about the knee issues. I guess we'll see whether he works his way into shape. He definitely looks slower on defense--he's not materializing out of nowhere all the time on that end anymore.
Any "clean up" surgery essentially means some degree of degenerative arthritis, typically isn't much else to clean up aside from the sequela of that.
Not trying to be too pessimistic, tons of NBA players have similar issues. And we don't know the severity for Giannis. But a somewhat early peak, whether it's due to style of play or injuries, would be catastrophic for the Bucks.
He's still incredible, but they need him to be MVP level incredible for the next 3-5 years for this to work. Time will tell.
So the Giddey evidence is a bunch of screenshots on socials? Is there anything more out there that's credible? If the allegations are correct he deserves all that's coming to him but its hard to know what exactly happened.
Wasnt what Franco did a crime? I don’t have a ton of info, how old is this girl. I read 17 but that could be wrong.
Maybe Seinfeld can write material for him
edit: and now I read this is from when he was 19 and she was 17. Is that true or people covering up for him?
Wasn't Franco with a 14-yr old girl? I only read up this morning so I'm sure updated details are circulating but wasn't she 16 in a state where consent was 16? He's what, 20?
Back to hoops or officiating, we knew about CP3 & Scott Foster's history but does anyone here subscribe to Tom Haberstroh? Apparently he dug into all the data. To be clear I am not asking for the behind the paywall content. Just curious if anyone has seen it and if its as convincing as Haberstroh says.
Also , if its correct wonder how Silver et al feel about this stuff. Its WWE content but maybe that's not a bad thing in the league office's eyes.
Also , if its correct wonder how Silver et al feel about this stuff. Its WWE content but maybe that's not a bad thing in the league office's eyes.
I agree with you, but don’t think it’s a good sign that his teammates are doing stuff like this.
It definitely looks bad.
Just so we are clear, I was simply asking if there is more than the screenshots and deleted Tweets. That's all I've seen and they aren't definitive in any way. I am just curious if there is more information coming from a non X type source.
The collection of pics and videos is pretty damning. Sure, I guess we don't have an actual sex video, but if I had to guess where this was going, it wouldn't be good.
To be clear I also have no desire to see a video - like at all. I am not communicating well here apparently. I saw one X post with a video and screenshots. And I saw that Chet deleted post.
What you are saying is that there is more evidence out there beyond this, right? I am simply noting that I may have missed the worst stuff and apparently I have. Thank you.
Giddey turned 21 last month. Oklahoma's age of consent is 16 from what I understand. It looks like she is a sophomore in HS so most likely 15 or 16. There is also no proof aside from her Instagram post. If she's 15 a quick payout to say she was kidding and it goes away if I had to guess.
Ok, some are saying these photos are not from this year. 21/15 a lot worse situation than 19/17
The video is not explicit in any way FYI. No one is seeking out child porn here. He calls her "my girl", which could be innocent but takes on a certain meaning when combined with all of the other evidence.
I didn't do any digging into the specifics, apologies for the potentially inaccurate comparison.
Just the first recent athlete in a somewhat similar situation that popped into my head.
It would be nice to have the glass version of Anthony Davis back again. I don't think he's missed a game due to injury since late January.
More baffling are the Clippers duo. Kawhi and George had played a total of 142 regular season games together in their first 4 years in LA, or about 35 games per year. They're nearly halfway there (15 straight to start the season) already. If all of the LA teams' stars are gonna be healthy, it makes for a really spicy western conference.
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Is the three-point shooting percentage variance similar to two-point shooting percentage?
We get on the Celtics for shooting too many threes. The Mavs shot 23.7% from three, yesterday. It's not just the Celtics who have bad shooting nights.
I think fans think 2-point shooting is more accurate, that's why they get on teams on bad 3-point shooting nights. But, is that actually the case?
I'm talking deviation from the mean; I know straight percentages are lower on threes.
We get on the Celtics for shooting too many threes. The Mavs shot 23.7% from three, yesterday. It's not just the Celtics who have bad shooting nights.
I think fans think 2-point shooting is more accurate, that's why they get on teams on bad 3-point shooting nights. But, is that actually the case?
I'm talking deviation from the mean; I know straight percentages are lower on threes.
I looked at that here. In theory, an outcome w/ probability closer to 0.5 should have greater variance than one closer to .33. At least for the 22-23 Celtics, on a per game basis, variance on 2 pt and 3 pt shot % were almost identical.
Your findings suggest that shots made are not truly random, independent variables, right? That would make sense simply in that defensive strategy, etc will adapt to offenses.
That’s the assumption I made there, but I don’t think it confirms/rejects - we had this discussion elsewhere where I argued that the Celtic’s poor shooting against Miami only made sense if shooting was a function of game and/or series rather than individual shot. You could do the same analysis by, say, team-season or player-season or just across all teams and seasons, but I figured by game was a reasonable unit of analysis (by the same reasoning you suggest).