- Jul 14, 2005
Phenomenal tennis between Alcaraz and Sinner. Alcaraz survives match point on Sinner’s racquet.
4th set ends at 2:01 AM Eastern.
4th set ends at 2:01 AM Eastern.
And the quality of play was just incredible, both guys hitting five or eight winners on one point and all of them just coming back with even more insane shots.
Small correction but looks like #1 is a Spaniard who never cracked the top 100 and has only been in one singles slam main draw, so doubt many would know her (Georgina Garcia Perez)...I certainly hadnt. the serve, clocked at 136.7mph (a full 5.7mph faster than #2), happened at the Hungarian Open.Bit of fun as an interlude: Fastest tennis serves. A list of personal-bests (so, each player listed only with their fastest).
I'd seen Taylor Dent cranking upper 140s at the US Open like a decade ago, had no idea he was actually that exceptional. Isner very high up of course, but Sam Groth owns the fastest. On the women's side, Caroline Garcia (whose guns / gym results were getting appreciated the other night) is tied for 6th-fastest personal best serve, only slightly behind Serena (#5) and Venus (#3). #2 is Lisicki, and #1 is some Hungarian I've never heard of.
Do I believe that with training women would be able to adapt. Sure why not. These are great athletes. I Transition period could get ugly, and I really hate the idea of different rules of play as the tournament progress. And even just waiting for the later rounds still impacts TV etc. You could no longer do nighttime doubleheaders.This made me check James Blake, who made the US Open QFs in 2005 and 2006 (and the AO QF in 2008), but never a slam semi.
I did a deep dive on the 3-vs-5 divide a few years ago, and as best I can tell, the difference persists primarily because of TV schedules: if they had all the women play best-of-5 for all the rounds, they might not be able to get all the early-round matches in in their time window, but in particular they wouldnt' be able to get as many matches into their TV windows.
However, that shouldn't preclude them from moving to best-of-5 for at least the later rounds (say, R16 and up), when schedule congestion is much alleviated. I hope they'll do that. There is absolutely nothing athletically that would prevent women from playing best-of-5.
So the persistence of the divide amounts to "historical reasons, plus maybe some minor logistical ones, bolstered by a well-known history of sexism throughout the game".
Two thoughts:Do I believe that with training women would be able to adapt. Sure why not. These are great athletes. I Transition period could get ugly, and I really hate the idea of different rules of play as the tournament progress. And even just waiting for the later rounds still impacts TV etc. You could no longer do nighttime doubleheaders.
All that said. Why does extending to 5 sets make the sport better? Do you think the quality of play will increase? Do you feel 3 sets is not a test of a true champion?
Longer matches reduce randomness and should allow the better player to progress significantly more often than in shorter matches. It's much easier for an underdog to upset a significant favorite when he or she only has to win two sets instead of having to win three sets. (And given the ridiculous parity - if you want to call it that - of women's tennis these days, a format which identifies and elevates better players on a more regular basis would probably be a good thing, methinks.)Why does extending to 5 sets make the sport better? Do you think the quality of play will increase? Do you feel 3 sets is not a test of a true champion?
I was there - first match was a pounding, second was great. Everyone thought Saba had it in the 5th. Lots of Saba supporters in the crowd.The first women’s semi was painful to watch, Garcia self-destructed and Jabeur nudged her all the way.
The second one was very high level, Sabalenka played a great first set, overpowering Swiatek 6-3, but Swiatek is incredible at figuring out matches she is losing and turning them drastically. This one she actually had to do that twice:
"In the 5th"? Heh.I was there - first match was a pounding, second was great. Everyone thought Saba had it in the 5th. Lots of Saba supporters in the crowd.
Yeah that was an ugly, ugly point. and it's not like the approach shot was so good that Alcaraz shocked him by getting to. He basically teed Alcaraz up for a passing shot, Alcaraz actually hit a poor passing shot right to his forehand, and tiafoe didn't even flinchTaifoe has collapsed mentally. I mean he didn’t even put his racket up, that was quite hittable.
4th in a rowBreaks again…4th this set? I just want a 5th set and see which of these guys can win the war of attrition.
Lotta sloppy tennis mixed with some brilliance.The Tiafoe roller coaster is quite a ride