https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/34152449/liv-golf-headed-oregon-first-stop-us-many-local-officials-oppose-eventBut in Oregon, there also is anger over the hit-and-run death of Fallon Smart in 2016. She was 15 when she was killed on a Portland street.
Saudi student Abdulrahman Sameer Noorah, who was in college in Oregon, was facing a trial on first-degree murder charges when he removed a tracking device and vanished. U.S. authorities believe the Saudi government helped arrange for a fake passport and provided a private jet for travel back to Saudi Arabia. The case was featured on "60 Minutes."
I agree about Wolff. I also wonder how more or less being owned by the Saudis may affect his mental health struggles. Maybe he thinks that the financial security will ease his mind, but I have my doubts.Wolff and Carlos Ortiz to LIV. Wolff’s a bummer to me, I find him fascinating even with the current struggles.
Why are they "exhibitions" and not "real" tournaments? I get that without a cut it's a lot less pressure and everyone will make some money, but there's also tons of money on the line for winning. These guys won't treat them as exhibitions, I don't think. They'll go hard to win.Less pressure too. It’s basically a bunch of exhibitions for a lot of money. Gotta ease the mind a bit and let him just play like he is playing with buddies.
Could have been even worse had Harrington choked away the US Senior Open, as he certainly seemed like he was in the process of doing.Really tough day of golf to watch today, between Lexi Thompson throwing away the LPGA even, and then Theegala's mistake, and then lip-out on 18.
Throw in guaranteed appearance money for the big names and you’ve hit on precisely what makes them exhibitions.Why are they "exhibitions" and not "real" tournaments? I get that without a cut it's a lot less pressure and everyone will make some money, but there's also tons of money on the line for winning. These guys won't treat them as exhibitions, I don't think. They'll go hard to win.
I assume they have leaderboards out on the course, right? If I'm playing a shotgun tournament, we are all starting and finishing at basically the same time (give or take a few minutes). If I'm heading into my 18th hole (whichever hole that happens to be), I look up at the leaderboard and it tells me in real time what the standings are. I see a guy one shot behind me, and I know he's also on his last hole. I don't see how that's an issue. I don't LIKE playing shotgun style because I don't want my round to start on the 5th and end on the 4th. But whatever, they'll figure that out.I just disagree. You almost never hear golf professionals say they were nervous over a shot/putt because of the money on the line. They don't get nervous because they have a putt to win $2.5 million, they get nervous because by making the putt they win their names goes on the same trophy that Jack and Tiger won. The guys finishing 33rd and 34th I would argure the FedEx Points and retaining their card is more at the top of their mind than the prize money. If a player misses, I don't think it's "Shit, I lost $25,000" its "Shit I fell to 127th in the FedEx Cup."
The LIV trophies are blank. The 48 guys who will tee it up at Pumpkin Ridge already have FU money. It's a hit and giggle. Additionally, the shotgun start makes it pretty difficult for the players to know where they actually stand in a tournament. There could be two guys tied playing their last hole 9 holes apart from each other, it's impossible for them to really know what's happening.
Lexi Thompson is really starting to put together a portfolio of collapses down the stretch on Sunday.Really tough day of golf to watch today, between Lexi Thompson throwing away the LPGA even, and then Theegala's mistake, and then lip-out on 18.
Although I thought the coverage was way over the top on him hitting his driver on 18. Kid played to win. Obviously I think going for the miracle 2nd shot was a mistake.
The Zalatoris comparisons are inevitable with second-place major finishes and those ugly short range misses. I'm surprised she hasn't starting arm-locking like he has or otherwise done some dramatically different to try to fix her stroke. She putts with her glove on, but I think she's always done it that way.Lexi Thompson is really starting to put together a portfolio of collapses down the stretch on Sunday.
Other sports offer guaranteed money, are those exhibitions too?Throw in guaranteed appearance money for the big names and you’ve hit on precisely what makes them exhibitions.
The big names get their money no matter the outcome. The less-famous are guaranteed better money than they made on the PGA Tour no matter how badly they play. They also play less golf (54 vs 72 holes) and use a format (shotgun start) designed to minimize the grind of the professional game.
An incredibly well-compensated exhibition tour is exactly what this is.
The decoupling of performance with reward is a pretty strong indicator of the difference between a serious competition and an exhibition. So, yes.Other sports offer guaranteed money, are those exhibitions too?
Is it decoupled though? I'm pretty sure the top players in the world got much better offers. There's still lots of incentive to be a big name and get more money.The decoupling of performance with reward is a pretty strong indicator of the difference between a serious competition and an exhibition. So, yes.
Does that mean that the players in LIV have no incentive to win? Of course not. But this isn’t a competition where players are trying to earn a living. This is about showering the talent with cash.
I have no problem with people who may enjoy watching it. That’s just how I view it.
There are lots of people on the LIV tour that will experience in their lives an enormous difference between a first place check and even an 11th place check. These pros are not going to just laugh around the course and treat it like an exhibition. They'll be there to win (or play as well as they can and make as much money as they can). It feels like an exhibition to fans maybe because it's so different from the normal PGA Tour. But different =/= exhibition.Is it decoupled though? I'm pretty sure the top players in the world got much better offers. There's still lots of incentive to be a big name and get more money.
I get that people don't like it, but they needed to start from somewhere. Step one is attracting talent.
It'll be fascinating to see the reaction LIV Golf gets in the United States. State-owned investments in sports are much more normalized in Europe, especially in soccer, where Qatar Airways, Etihad, and Emirates are on the shirt of about half of the top clubs. When Qatar Airways was in negotiations to sponsor Miami FC, backlash was swift and no deal was made. The participant list for LIV is also heavily tilted internationally, which could also be because it plans to be a truly global series, unlike the PGA Tour.Oregon state and local officials start to make noises about LIVTour event at Pumpkin Ridge
I don't understand this. So Schwartzel was guaranteed X amount of money. Ok cool. He then wins the tournament, which had a top prize of $4.7 million. Instead of paying him $4.7 million, they simply said, ok, that's coming out of your X amount of guaranteed money? I.e., he didn't win ANYTHING, really?
This sounds conspicuously like how advances work in the book publishing industry.
Here’s a clue from a story about the three players announcing today. One of them was Eugenio Chacarra, a top amateur:Do all the players on the Saudi Tour have guarantees? If so, then the prize money -initially at least, until some guarantees are met -is all fake.
What they are describing is a two year contract with an option for a third year. Which means that Chacarra is getting guaranteed appearance money.Speaking with Spanish golf journalist Hugo Costa, Chacarra said his LIV Gold recruitment happened very quickly, eventually leading to him committing for two years of events. If he plays well enough to finish among the top 32 players, he’ll be able to compete for a third year of events, too.