2021-22 NBA In-Season News/Transactions

Euclis20

Euclis20

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 3, 2004
8,321
Imaginationland
nighthob said:
I got roundly mocked here back then for observing that the ECF winner was going to romp to the title because neither the Lakers nor T’wolves could stand up to the buzzsaw defenses of both squads. I had $500 on Detroit, $250 to win and $250 to win in six. Had Jackson not believed his own press clippings by then the Lakers might have won one more and made me some serious coin.

Also, the idiotic basketball press aside, the ‘04 Lakers didn’t fizzle, the ‘04 Pistons and Pacers were two all time great defenses at the apex of the game’s defensive era. It’s akin to saying the ‘08 Lakers fizzled for running into another juggernaut squad.
Click to expand...
Agree on the bolded, it always annoys me that people refer to that 04 Lakers team as a super team that bombed. Payton and Malone were done as all-stars at that point, and any team that makes it to the finals can't truly be considered a disappointment. I'll save that term for the 2013 Lakers, who had Kobe (34 but still playing well, good enough for 1st team all-NBA), Howard (still just 27 and 3rd team all-NBA) and Gasol (still just 32, and good enough to make a couple of all star teams after that season). Nash was indeed 100% cooked, but the fact that that team won just 45 games and was swept in the first round despite all of their hype was incredible.
 
nighthob

nighthob

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
12,719
Jimbodandy said:
Yeah the money line for that finals only shows that the general public didn't know how good that Detroit team was.

To be fair, it really was an anomaly team, not having one of those top NBA ever players. But that defense was absurd, and that team tied for second in point differential (LAL were 7th).
Click to expand...
And they did that while only having ‘Sheed for 22 games. That D was so good that the league got aggressive about opening up the offenses after.
 
NomarsFool

NomarsFool

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 21, 2001
8,305
Yeah. I think these 3rd super max contracts are the things that really have a potential to destroy your franchise.
 
PC Drunken Friar

PC Drunken Friar

Member
SoSH Member
Sep 12, 2003
14,656
South Boston
nighthob said:
I got roundly mocked here back then for observing that the ECF winner was going to romp to the title because neither the Lakers nor T’wolves could stand up to the buzzsaw defenses of both squads. I had $500 on Detroit, $250 to win and $250 to win in six. Had Jackson not believed his own press clippings by then the Lakers might have won one more and made me some serious coin.

Also, the idiotic basketball press aside, the ‘04 Lakers didn’t fizzle, the ‘04 Pistons and Pacers were two all time great defenses at the apex of the game’s defensive era. It’s akin to saying the ‘08 Lakers fizzled for running into another juggernaut squad.
Click to expand...
What was your username back then?
 
Kliq

Kliq

Member
SoSH Member
Mar 31, 2013
22,929
Cellar-Door said:
View: https://twitter.com/NickFriedell/status/1499536473531555852


Joe Harris done for the year. Hurts the Nets but not as bad with Curry now there
Click to expand...
It will be interesting to see their rotations in the playoffs. With Simmons aboard you really can't afford to have another non-shooter out there. Griffin has been a master bricklayer all year. Aldridge provides some measure of spacing but has defensive liabilities. Drummond is obviously not a shooter. I think most people will agree that the Nets best prospective lineup is Simmons/Durant at the 4-5, with shooters around them. Obviously Kyrie is there, and then Curry/Mills would be intriguing but can you really play three small guards? Bruce Brown isn't much of a shooter. Neither is James Johnson. Harris at least has size to play the wing; feels like they are a wing short.
 
chilidawg

chilidawg

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 22, 2015
6,092
Cultural hub of the universe
Kliq said:
It will be interesting to see their rotations in the playoffs. With Simmons aboard you really can't afford to have another non-shooter out there. Griffin has been a master bricklayer all year. Aldridge provides some measure of spacing but has defensive liabilities. Drummond is obviously not a shooter. I think most people will agree that the Nets best prospective lineup is Simmons/Durant at the 4-5, with shooters around them. Obviously Kyrie is there, and then Curry/Mills would be intriguing but can you really play three small guards? Bruce Brown isn't much of a shooter. Neither is James Johnson. Harris at least has size to play the wing; feels like they are a wing short.
Click to expand...
An Irving/Dragic/Mills/Curry backcourt rotation sure sounds like one that could be exploited. Not that the rest of the Nets are much better defensively.
 
lovegtm

lovegtm

Member
SoSH Member
Apr 30, 2013
12,446
Jimbodandy said:
Yeah the money line for that finals only shows that the general public didn't know how good that Detroit team was.

To be fair, it really was an anomaly team, not having one of those top NBA ever players. But that defense was absurd, and that team tied for second in point differential (LAL were 7th).
Click to expand...
Weird, I feel like there's a team in the NBA this year with an elite defense and net rating, but no top-tier star, that is getting overlooked as contenders.

(with the way Tatum's playing this comparison might not hold for long though)
 
jon abbey

jon abbey

Shanghai Warrior
Moderator
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
71,331
chilidawg said:
An Irving/Dragic/Mills/Curry backcourt rotation sure sounds like one that could be exploited. Not that the rest of the Nets are much better defensively.
Click to expand...
Simmons and a motivated Durant will/would I think be a stellar duo to build a defense around, both can switch and guard so many positions. It won’t matter if they don’t start winning games soon though, closer to 11th than 7th now.
 
R

radsoxfan

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 9, 2009
13,780
Can Lebron keep going out there for the rest of the season for this AD-less Lakers team?

Time for a groin or hamstring pull. Sore knee. Anything.

It's so embarrassing and yet beautiful.
 
Jimbodandy

Jimbodandy

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 31, 2006
11,626
around the way
radsoxfan said:
Can Lebron keep going out there for the rest of the season for this AD-less Lakers team?

Time for a groin or hamstring pull. Sore knee. Anything.

It's so embarrassing and yet beautiful.
Click to expand...
It's astounding how bad they are defensively. And agreed, it's wonderful to behold.

Melo and Lebron put up a -61 tonight. I know that it's one game, but it's also -61.
 
BigSoxFan

BigSoxFan

Member
SoSH Member
May 31, 2007
47,329
Cellar-Door said:
View: https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1500959911731253249


Spurs convert their two way guys to straight rest of season deals.... they're clearing cap. Expect them to trade off what they got from us in the White deal.
Click to expand...
Problem for the Spurs is that there isn’t much this summer in attainable FAs but they could also use that cap space for trades. I’d at least throw a big offer to Ayton and Bridges and force their teams to match. Portis is another guy I’d be looking at although he comes with some risk. Still somehow only 27 though.
 
benhogan

benhogan

Granite Truther
SoSH Member
Nov 2, 2007
20,495
Santa Monica
BigSoxFan said:
Problem for the Spurs is that there isn’t much this summer in attainable FAs but they could also use that cap space for trades. I’d at least throw a big offer to Ayton and Bridges and force their teams to match. Portis is another guy I’d be looking at although he comes with some risk. Still somehow only 27 though.
Click to expand...
$110MM/4yrs for Bridges or Ayton might get CHA or PHX to blink
 
lovegtm

lovegtm

Member
SoSH Member
Apr 30, 2013
12,446
Cellar-Door said:
View: https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1500959911731253249


Spurs convert their two way guys to straight rest of season deals.... they're clearing cap. Expect them to trade off what they got from us in the White deal.
Click to expand...
JR is an interesting target with a trade exception if the Celtics use Horford to get a big salary. He would be solid wing/guard depth, and the Spurs haven't exactly been pumping up his trade price.

I'd be down to reacquire Romeo too, and the price to do that should be nearly free.
 
Dduncan6er

Dduncan6er

New Member
Apr 16, 2020
335
Springfield, MA
What’s the hold up here? Are they trying to fix his shot a bit before he plays? Unless he sat around for 6 months and didn’t work out at all I find it hard to believe he’s still not in good enough condition to at least play limited minutes.
 
Smokey Joe

Smokey Joe

Member
SoSH Member
Apr 9, 2001
1,184
Dduncan6er said:
What’s the hold up here? Are they trying to fix his shot a bit before he plays? Unless he sat around for 6 months and didn’t work out at all I find it hard to believe he’s still not in good enough condition to at least play limited minutes.
Click to expand...
The hold up is that Simmons is a seriously f’d up young man who needs to go to some team that’s not playing for anything and the fans don’t care (cue Orlando), not leap into the Eastern Conference Playoffs.
 
Swedgin

Swedgin

Member
SoSH Member
Jun 27, 2013
703
Dduncan6er said:
What’s the hold up here? Are they trying to fix his shot a bit before he plays? Unless he sat around for 6 months and didn’t work out at all I find it hard to believe he’s still not in good enough condition to at least play limited minutes.
Click to expand...
Reportedly a back issue. I am far from a Simmons defender and would normally call bs - in his most recent column Hollinger pushed back hard against the reported injury being made up. I may be naïve, but he has not come across as someone willing to carry water for Klutch, or any other agency. Maybe he is doing his colleague Shams a solid - but that is not my sense given his reporting/analysis throughout.
 
Euclis20

Euclis20

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 3, 2004
8,321
Imaginationland
Swedgin said:
Reportedly a back issue. I am far from a Simmons defender and would normally call bs - in his most recent column Hollinger pushed back hard against the reported injury being made up. I may be naïve, but he has not come across as someone willing to carry water for Klutch, or any other agency. Maybe he is doing his colleague Shams a solid - but that is not my sense given his reporting/analysis throughout.
Click to expand...
He's had back issues in the past (, and anyone who's ever hurt their back will certainly agree that you don't need to be playing professional sports (or even working out heavily) to get yourself in real trouble. We don't know how long ago he aggravated it, but I think it's far from a given that we seem him this year at all.
 
ElUno20

ElUno20

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 19, 2005
6,178
Dduncan6er said:
What’s the hold up here? Are they trying to fix his shot a bit before he plays? Unless he sat around for 6 months and didn’t work out at all I find it hard to believe he’s still not in good enough condition to at least play limited minutes.
Click to expand...
He reportedly was ramping up hard the weeks before the trade. After basically 6 months off and prior back issues, i definitely could believe he tweaked something.

The nets have shown that KD just needs a live body in a jersey. So they shouldn't risk simmons' potential 20 mpg in the playoffs.
 
Cellar-Door

Cellar-Door

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 1, 2006
35,051
Yeah ESPN and others have reported SImmons is having L-4 issues, had an epidural while in Orlando as he tries to ramp up
 
R

radsoxfan

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 9, 2009
13,780
Cellar-Door said:
Yeah ESPN and others have reported SImmons is having L-4 issues, had an epidural while in Orlando as he tries to ramp up
Click to expand...
Reading between the lines, I have a feeling this disc issue (at least on imaging) isn't very significant. If he had a disc protrusion contacting or impinging a nerve, I'm sure he would have had some kind of intervention before this. And I'm sure the media would know all about the details. Sounds like a "sore back" and let's throw some stuff against the wall to see what works since he isn't getting better. Obviously back pain is complicated and I have no idea if I'm correct, but thats my best semi-educated guess.

Bummer on Curry with the ligament sprain. Could be a minor couple week thing, but need to know more (i.e is it Lisfranc? how severe?). Until then, completely a guess. I know Kerr got on Smart, but I think that was a heat of the moment thing.

I don't fault Smart, I think that was a "first to the floor" situation and he went at the ball rather than angled out of the way to hit Curry. Split second play, don't think it was dirty or intentional.
 
Euclis20

Euclis20

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 3, 2004
8,321
Imaginationland
radsoxfan said:
Reading between the lines, I have a feeling this disc issue (at least on imaging) isn't very significant. If he had a disc protrusion contacting or impinging a nerve, I'm sure he would have had some kind of intervention before this. And I'm sure the media would know all about the details. Sounds like a "sore back" and let's throw some stuff against the wall to see what works since he isn't getting better. Obviously back pain is complicated and I have no idea if I'm correct, but thats my best semi-educated guess.

Bummer on Curry with the ligament sprain. Could be a minor couple week thing, but need to know more (i.e is it Lisfranc? how severe?). Until then, completely a guess. I know Kerr got on Smart, but I think that was a heat of the moment thing.

I don't fault Smart, I think that was a "first to the floor" situation and he went at the ball rather than angled out of the way to hit Curry. Split second play, don't think it was dirty or intentional.
Click to expand...
It was heat of the moment during the game, but Kerr brought it up again in postgame. It was an absolutely nothing play by Smart (in terms of intent), only even noticed because Smart was the offender and Curry the victim (and Curry got hurt). Green tried walking the line calling it "unnecessary" but not dirty, though coming from Draymond it's sort of funny.
 
snowmanny

snowmanny

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 8, 2005
15,804
Those calling it “unnecessary” or “dangerous” are saying that if you dive to a loose ball you might hit somebody who is standing near the ball.

But that also means that if you stand near a loose ball you might get hit by someone diving at the ball. And in this case Curry was walking towards the ball.

Is this one of those unwritten rules things?
 
ugmo33

ugmo33

Member
SoSH Member
May 6, 2016
166
Before I saw that Curry got hurt on that play I assumed Kerr was upset at Marcus for kicking at Klay on the fast break....which was actually looked way more intentional and dangerous.
 
Jimbodandy

Jimbodandy

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 31, 2006
11,626
around the way
radsoxfan said:
Something tells me Kerr's reaction would have been a bit more reasonable/tempered if it was Chris Chiozza instead of Steph Curry on the other end of the Smart dive.
Click to expand...
Yeah Kerr's earning brownie points with his team for having their back and venting some frustration that he finally got his band back together and it only lasted a half.

..and wildly off base with this "how dare you dive for a loose ball in the vicinity of the great Steph Curry" line of questioning. Those little pushes in the back like Pritchard did during someone's layup (Poole maybe) are more dangerous, and that shit happens every game.
 
wade boggs chicken dinner

wade boggs chicken dinner

Member
SoSH Member
Mar 26, 2005
30,935
Wasn't sure where to put this but good article on Amir Johnson, who is taking the Udonis Haslem role with the . . .


G-League Ignite. Some notable advice to his teammates:

“There’s certain stuff I know playing the game,” he said. “I tell them I’ve been in the league 15 years, made close to $100 million and I averaged 6 points in the NBA. Even if they don’t know my career, I tell them I wasn’t a superstar but I always did the little things. What make teams win games are the little things. If you can make someone else better on that team, that makes a great teammate and I totally agree with them.​
​
“[The Thunder] has Nick Collison’s jersey retired and he wasn’t a Top 50 guy. He was just a solid dude that set screens, good person around the community. Guys like that can last a long way in the league. You just have to find that niche and find what works.​

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/03/19/sports/former-celtic-amir-johnson-isnt-playing-nba-now-his-contributions-are-notable/
 
Kliq

Kliq

Member
SoSH Member
Mar 31, 2013
22,929
wade boggs chicken dinner said:
Wasn't sure where to put this but good article on Amir Johnson, who is taking the Udonis Haslem role with the . . .


G-League Ignite. Some notable advice to his teammates:

“There’s certain stuff I know playing the game,” he said. “I tell them I’ve been in the league 15 years, made close to $100 million and I averaged 6 points in the NBA. Even if they don’t know my career, I tell them I wasn’t a superstar but I always did the little things. What make teams win games are the little things. If you can make someone else better on that team, that makes a great teammate and I totally agree with them.​
​
“[The Thunder] has Nick Collison’s jersey retired and he wasn’t a Top 50 guy. He was just a solid dude that set screens, good person around the community. Guys like that can last a long way in the league. You just have to find that niche and find what works.​

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/03/19/sports/former-celtic-amir-johnson-isnt-playing-nba-now-his-contributions-are-notable/
Click to expand...
Cool story. Amir was officially the last player to come out of high school before they changed the rules, so he can relate to these kids a lot.
 
128

128

Member
SoSH Member
May 4, 2019
10,133
From Shams' latest piece in The Athletic:

Charlotte Hornets

Isaiah Thomas has found a home in Charlotte and is playing with the pop on the floor that made him a two-time All-Star in Boston. Thomas is averaging nine points in 13.5 minutes per game while shooting 45.5 percent from 3-point range in his six games for the Hornets. Perhaps most importantly: The young, talented Hornets have relied upon Thomas for a leadership role, being a player who’s seen it all and been in every circumstance over his 11 NBA seasons.

https://theathletic.com/3198951/2022/03/21/heat-a-potential-suitor-for-bradley-beal-herniated-disc-holding-ben-simmons-back-and-more-nba-news-inside-pass/?source=twitterhq
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom