What is it about working any kind of NFL gig that makes people think they have the most important job on the planet?ITS TOO LATE FOR THAT THE DAMAGE IS DONE
That security guy must’ve been waiting for a moment like this to shine.
We ALL know that if this was another team’s guy, after looking at that, nobody would think they’re doing anything untoward.Struck me as a guy filming B roll thinking nothing of it being told he just fucked up and was trying to unwind it. Hard to argue that represented the Patriots cheating scheme... it was not subtle.
Or to put pressure on the league when you hear that the Pats are getting a slap on the wrist and you’re a vindictive prick organization.The video guy sounds sleazy. Like he is trying to talk his way out of a ticket.
But why is there no repercussion for the Bengals leaking this or why does the league get to? This seems clearly a precursor to a significant fine or worse. You leak this to grease the skids for a big penalty.
It was the league on gameday to maximize drama. Nothing new.The video guy sounds sleazy. Like he is trying to talk his way out of a ticket.
But why is there no repercussion for the Bengals leaking this or why does the league get to? This seems clearly a precursor to a significant fine or worse. You leak this to grease the skids for a big penalty.
Whether it’s purposeful or not, he’s being sooop obtuse there. “I don’t see the advanced scout in any of this!” Dude, you’ve watched TV shows before, right? Typical tough guy security.ITS TOO LATE FOR THAT THE DAMAGE IS DONE
That security guy must’ve been waiting for a moment like this to shine.
Yeah, this combined with the reports coming out late last night make me think someone isn’t happy about the lack of heat on the Pats and is trying to pump it up. Bengals? League? Could be both.The video guy sounds sleazy. Like he is trying to talk his way out of a ticket.
But why is there no repercussion for the Bengals leaking this or why does the league get to? This seems clearly a precursor to a significant fine or worse. You leak this to grease the skids for a big penalty.
Talk about a nothingburger. I saw an extended clip of that too with all the Fox guys giving their takes, and man I forgot what a clown Strahan can be.
Didn't they say that they were contractors hired out of Cleveland?Volin:
Scoop from
@BGlobeSports
: The Patriots have suspended the videographer responsible for shooting the video
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/patriots/2019/12/15/patriots-suspend-videographer-involved-bengals-filming-incident/fE2KzEePkQDFnRJ1HMzwPM/story.html
I don’t think that report was attributed/acknowledge by the Patriots.Didn't they say that they were contractors hired out of Cleveland?
Ah, thanksI don’t think that report was attributed/acknowledge by the Patriots.
I agree it will *look* bad to the general public but if you look at it objectively and apply logic, the asking to delete shows nothing more than a camera man reacting to a bully security, realizing they fucked up, and trying to salvage their job / reputation / business relationships.I’m a Patriots’ fan, but I don’t think you folks are not looking at this objectively. I thought the Fox video makes the Pats look terrible. The static shots of the Bengals sideline don’t look like useable b-roll and the camera man begging to delete the footage sounds to me like a guy who knows that what he did is a big problems and is trying cover it up.
Yeah, it’s almost like he was afraid of getting suspended from his job or something.I’m a Patriots’ fan, but I don’t think you folks are not looking at this objectively. I thought the Fox video makes the Pats look terrible. The static shots of the Bengals sideline don’t look like useable b-roll and the camera man begging to delete the footage sounds to me like a guy who knows that what he did is a big problems and is trying cover it up.
The "rogue cameraman theory" has lifeMore from Kyed:
Some more info on
@BenVolin
's report that the Patriots suspended the traveling producer who taped the Bengals' sideline: Sources told me Jonathan Kraft stormed into the TV production office Monday, had a closed door meeting and the producer hasn't been back since.
No, it's the full-time producer who traveled from Mass with the two audio/video contractorsThe "rogue cameraman theory" has life
Is that Videographer #1 or #2 in the video?More from Kyed:
Some more info on
@BenVolin
's report that the Patriots suspended the traveling producer who taped the Bengals' sideline: Sources told me Jonathan Kraft stormed into the TV production office Monday, had a closed door meeting and the producer hasn't been back since.
I know, I was implying he went rogueNo, it's the full-time producer who traveled from Mass with the two audio/video contractors
This video does not show Bengals security confronting the producer from Krafts Sports Production.
I've been on the "the Pats are gonna get hammered for this" wagon. I hope I'm wrong. But I thought the Fox video was unbelievably benign and totally smacks of B-roll footage. That's literally what B-roll footage would look like. Not focusing in on anyone, general looks at an NFL sideline. If you were told to get B-roll footage of an NFL sideline, that's pretty much exactly what you'd shoot.I’m a Patriots’ fan, but I don’t think you folks are looking at this objectively. I thought the Fox video makes the Pats look terrible. The static shots of the Bengals sideline don’t look like useable b-roll and the camera man begging to delete the footage sounds to me like a guy who knows that what he did is a big problems and is trying cover it up.
It doesn't show anybody.Yeah, they keep conflating the producer with the videographer/cameraman.
Not to me. To me it sounds like he was told he effed up and said “Shit, my bad you can just delete it”. Sure you could read that differently but you don’t have to.I’m a Patriots’ fan, but I don’t think you folks are looking at this objectively. I thought the Fox video makes the Pats look terrible. The static shots of the Bengals sideline don’t look like useable b-roll and the camera man begging to delete the footage sounds to me like a guy who knows that what he did is a big problems and is trying cover it up.
Lol. Not sure if serious.Two 1sts or one 1st and a 2nd/3rd. Max fines. BB suspended 4 games up to a year.
same here. I’d love to hear the conversation 60 seconds before that clip. Seems like they started the leaked clip to start without contextNot to me. To me it sounds like he was told he effed up and said “Shit, my bad you can just delete it”. Sure you could read that differently but you don’t have to.
It was the producer who is a full-time employee of KSP that they suspended.Didn't they say that they were contractors hired out of Cleveland?
It wouldn’t shock me at this point. I’m not saying it’ll happen but considering how often people manufacture fake scandals about this team and then use those as an excuse to issue absurd punishments, I wouldn’t be surprised if this nothingburger became another one of those instances.Lol. Not sure if serious.