No. I said barring trade or injury because we are specifically talking about the scenario where all 6 are healthy and on the 40 man roster in April. With the Miley trade that scenario will not okay out and the point is now moot.
Option Elias. DFA Escobar. Problem solved.The PB looks great now. 4 of the 7 spots are filled: Kimbrel, Koji, Smith, Tazawa. I suppose #5 would be Elias or Kelly.
That gives us two spots for: Wright (no opt), Ross (L), Layne (L), Escobar (L, no opt).
More trades are coming. Or Koji's arm fell off and they haven't yet made the announcement.
“@nickcafardo: The Royals are interested in some of Bostons starters not named Price Or Porcello.”
And my point was that the team had a rather large amount of control over whether your hypothetical situation happened, and they exercised it while I was typing, it seems.No. I said barring trade or injury because we are specifically talking about the scenario where all 6 are healthy and on the 40 man roster in April. With the Miley trade that scenario will not okay out and the point is now moot.
I'm pretty sure this means the definite rotation is Price, Porcello, Buchholz, Rodriguez, Kelly.With the Miley trade:
1) Definite SP (4) is now: Price(L), Buchholz, E.Rodriguez(L), Porcello.
1a) Possible SP (2) is now: Elias (L) and Kelly
2) BP (8) is now: Kimbrel, Koji, Smith, Tazawa, Wright (no opt), Ross (L), Layne (L), Escobar (L, no opt).
MiL starters: Owens (L), Johnson (L)
MiL relievers: Barnes, Workman, Ramierz, Light
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I sort of like the trade and sort of don't. From a SP perspective, we basically exchanged the certainty of Miley for Elias/Kelly. Another way of looking at it is that if we go with a rotation of Price, Buchholz, E-Rod, Procello, Kelly, it'll basically be the same as last year except we've upgraded from Miley to Price.
The PB looks great now. 4 of the 7 spots are filled: Kimbrel, Koji, Smith, Tazawa. I suppose #5 would be Elias or Kelly.
That gives us two spots for: Wright (no opt), Ross (L), Layne (L), Escobar (L, no opt).
More trades are coming. Or Koji's arm fell off and they haven't yet made the announcement.
I was just commenting on a post in the rumor thread in the MLB forum that suggests he's asking for three years at five or six per year.I'm still hoping they sign Sipp and close this mofo out.
Yeah, what the hell. If they're going to pay some luxury tax, might as well go balls out and have a kickass bullpen. They'd be like the opposite of Dombrowski's terrible Detroit bullpens.I was just commenting on a post in the rumor thread in the MLB forum that suggests he's asking for three years at five or six per year.
I think I'd do it.
Kimbrel, Koji, Taz, Smith, and Sipp. Layne as loogy, Wright as long man.
That would be a disturbingly deep bullpen, and one that could likely withstand one or even two of the top five being hurt or ineffective. I doubt it will happen, but I kinda want it to.
Yeah, we were cross posting and quoting each other at the same time in different threads. I'd give Sipp that in a Johnny Manziel heartbeat and just lock it down.I was just commenting on a post in the rumor thread in the MLB forum that suggests he's asking for three years at five or six per year.
I think I'd do it.
Kimbrel, Koji, Taz, Smith, and Sipp. Layne as loogy, Wright as long man.
That would be a disturbingly deep bullpen, and one that could likely withstand one or even two of the top five being hurt or ineffective. I doubt it will happen, but I kinda want it to.
Not in a million years do I hope the Sox are the mystery team. After everything Dombrowski has done to bring in a #1 starter, a closer and a bullpen ace while barely putting a dent in the existing roster or the team's farm depth, I sincerely hope he wouldn't now blow all of his future capital on a godfather offer for a guy who is supposedly not available and could be had for a whole lot less if he's patient and waits another year or two.Rumors of a "mystery team" making a push to trade for Jose Fernandez: http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/487674/mystery-team-making-push-for-jose-Fernandez
So, assuming it takes a boatload of prospects/other cheap talent, do you hope the Red Sox are the mystery team? If it takes Betts or X plus? What if it doesn't take either of them but does require a lot of others (Swihart, Owens, maybe Moncada, etc.). We've discussed this before, but mostly prior to signing Price, which changes our need equation. And with less to suggest that the Marlins might be serious about dealing him. What do people think now?
I saw that and thought he was high. There isn't a single player worth 4 blue chip prospects. Not Harper. Not Trout.Jon Heyman on MLB Network was doing mock trade proposals for Fernandez. His for the Red Sox was Rodriguez, Espinoza, Moncada, and Devers. It won't take that much to get him, but at least 2 of those guys would have to go and I imagine they'd want 1 of Betts/Bogaerts. No way do the Red Sox make this trade.
In other words, roughly $100m in surplus value, plus likely a bit extra to beat other offers.FWIW - Dave Cameron just tried to tackle his value and came up with Julio Urias. He tends to be a bit on the conservative side though.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/figuring-out-jose-fernandezs-trade-value/
Man, I'd trade all of them in a cocaine heartbeat for Trout or Harper.I saw that and thought he was high. There isn't a single player worth 4 blue chip prospects. Not Harper. Not Trout.
I'd actually think about it with Harper since he'll probably make 60+ mill in excess value and it isn't even clear if he's hit his ceiling yet.Man, I'd trade all of them in a cocaine heartbeat for Trout or Harper.
Hey man, to each his own, but it's a long shot any of those 4 have a single all-star season during their careers. On the other hand, it's Mike Trout.I don't necessarily think any of those chips are going to be superstars, but they all have all-star potential.