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I'd probably just buy the RUL on Ebay for around $100 including shipping.  Short of that, the key difference in shaft you were hitting and the shaft you ordered are the weight and specifically their impact on swing-weight.  That's the part that will really make the club feel different.  Once you've got your swing-weight back to how you were killing it you'll likely be fine no matter what shaft you get.  Things like flex and kickpoint have no industry standard so they don't mean that much.  If you really hate the new shaft and don't want to buy the ebay one, I'd look for a similar one from the same manufacturer with similar stats.  You'll at least you'll get close.  Also, Ebay for shafts is amazing.  People just don't know what to do with them and will take whatever they get can get for them.
 

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So if I'm understanding you correctly, any 80 gram shaft will work?  Since both the RUL and Rocketfuel shafts give the club a swingweigt of D4 it looks like I can be okay with any 80 gram shaft.
 
 
I mean, I may like the rocketfuel shaft as well.  I know I hit both well during the demo day.  To be honest the reason I went with the tour with TP shaft is because I tried that in 13 degree loft instead of 15 degree and it made a big difference.
 

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Anyone have any tips/drills to stop pulling the ball (especially off the tee)?
 
I've played 3 rounds now and am consistently hitting it solid, but left.
 
I had this happen when I was playing in college and my coach said to focus on making sure my weight was fully transferred to my back foot before pausing and starting my downswing.
 
It's been a few years but I feel like I've tried that with no success. My typical ballflight is a nice controlled fade but so far this year I've been hitting ugly pull-draws.  Short game and putting are starting to come around but it's been frustrating because I will continue to be unable to score if I don't fix this.
 

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inJacobyWeTrust said:
Anyone have any tips/drills to stop pulling the ball (especially off the tee)?
 
I've played 3 rounds now and am consistently hitting it solid, but left.
 
I had this happen when I was playing in college and my coach said to focus on making sure my weight was fully transferred to my back foot before pausing and starting my downswing.
 
It's been a few years but I feel like I've tried that with no success. My typical ballflight is a nice controlled fade but so far this year I've been hitting ugly pull-draws.  Short game and putting are starting to come around but it's been frustrating because I will continue to be unable to score if I don't fix this.
I am a straight draw player. I can hit a monsters slice off the tee, but I can't hit fades. But my point is that pulls are my miss. To work on it I take a narrower stance, move the ball up a tad, and try to get to my left heel as quickly as possible with my weight. Typically, for me anyway, my pulls come from being stuck on the back heel and my hands being quick. It's much easier to get to you front foot with a narrower stance.

I used to do a drill with a coach where I would address the ball and he would move it like 8 inches IN FRONT of my front foot. It seemed impossible with a 6 iron but sure enough your hand eye coordination would hit it. it really helps you keep the club face square as long as possible. Give that a go.

Edit: and yea, if your focusing on your back weight transfer then your probably stuck. Try to put what feels like 70% on your back heel before you even swing. That makes for a real nice transition where your hands won't be able to beat your body.
 

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Zomp said:
So if I'm understanding you correctly, any 80 gram shaft will work?  Since both the RUL and Rocketfuel shafts give the club a swingweigt of D4 it looks like I can be okay with any 80 gram shaft.
 
 
I mean, I may like the rocketfuel shaft as well.  I know I hit both well during the demo day.  To be honest the reason I went with the tour with TP shaft is because I tried that in 13 degree loft instead of 15 degree and it made a big difference.
Well, not ANY 80 gram shaft but any 80 gram shaft with at least nominally similar characteristics.  It basically like saying that any size 11 shoe will work for a size 11 foot.  It's sort of right but if you liked a particular kind of shoe while you were running you should stick to something similar and not switch to cowboy boots.  The fit and feel will be specific to you but in general a size 11 running shoe is a size 11 running shoe and an 80 gram, X-flex, mid-kick, high-torque shaft is an 80 gram, X-flex, mid-kick, high-torque shaft.  The obvious failure in my analogy is that no sneaker will suddenly make you start always running hard to the left.
 

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inJacobyWeTrust said:
Anyone have any tips/drills to stop pulling the ball (especially off the tee)?
 
I've played 3 rounds now and am consistently hitting it solid, but left.
 
I had this happen when I was playing in college and my coach said to focus on making sure my weight was fully transferred to my back foot before pausing and starting my downswing.
 
It's been a few years but I feel like I've tried that with no success. My typical ballflight is a nice controlled fade but so far this year I've been hitting ugly pull-draws.  Short game and putting are starting to come around but it's been frustrating because I will continue to be unable to score if I don't fix this.
Any chance of posting video?  Pulls can be caused by lots of things.  Is it a pull hook or a pull fade or a pull straight?  Lots of people who tend to slice also tend to pull as a result of having a very steep swing plane (high hands and high shaft angle on the takeaway).  If you come straight back down on plane you'll slice it.  If you try to avoid the slice you have to drop the left shoulder and the hands come from way outside to way inside.  The result is a really solid feeling shot that goes very left.  The other result is feeling very unbalanced, like all of your weight either stayed back or never went back.
 
Without video I'd focus on 2 things.  First, check your takeway and make sure you're hands and club are in the right position at takeaway.  Second, try to make sure to keep your shoulders level through the swing.  I like the drill SBS posted too where you put the ball way forward in your stance.  If you're diving at the ball you'll never hit it that far forward in your stance.
 

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This. This has been my miss with my irons so far this season. I am crushing balls but pulling them straight left. I'll have to try this drill at the range
It helps if you have someone at the range to move it, but if your solo just put it about 6-8 inches in front of your front foot.

It's going to feel really weird and impossible to hit, but your eyes will take care of it.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions, I went to the range tonight after work and took a video of my driver where I hit a pretty terrible pull hook.  I'll post it when I get a chance, but it looks like you were both right (southernbosox and jercra).  I have always had a very steep swing and my hands have been getting ahead of my body.
 
I'll definitely try the drill you mentioned, certainly can't hurt!
 

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Before I sell these on Ebay, I figured I'd give SoSH a chance if anyone is interested:
 
 
For sale:
 
Ping G20, 10.5', Grafalloy Bimatrix Tour Prototype 65 gram White Stiff shaft.   Played less than 30 rounds with, excellent condition. $200
 
Taylormade Burner 3 wood, 15 degree, Aldila NV 70 gram Stiff shaft.  Club is a few years old, good condition. $50
 
Nike VR Pro St8 fit 5 wood, 19 degree, Fujikura shaft Stiff.  Club is a year old, very good condition. $40
 
 
Can have all 3 for $250 plus shipping.  If I don't get any bites here in a few days I'll throw them on eBay.
 

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Went out with a friend of mine this morning and played.  Interesting round to say the least, hit two fairways out of twelve on the course and still managed to shoot an 82.  Just struggling mightily with my driver right now.  I was scrambling most of the round, I was deadly with my short irons but having to get out of trouble all day took a toll on my score.  
 
Does anyone here keep a 5 wood in their bag?  Do you like it?  Where do you break it out?  My boss gave me one a while back and I have yet to play with it.  I feel like I may hit it better off the deck than my 3 wood.  I
 

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I really wish I had the ability to put a legitimate green and chipping area in my yard.  I went out yesterday afternoon and worked on chipping for about 2 hours, its amazing how much you can accomplish in 2 hours around a green working on the fundamentals.  
 
Its relaxing too.  The entire time all I could think about was how awesome it would be to have a green, a sand trap, and about 20 yards around it, at your house.  Work on that for 20-30 minutes a day after work and you'd shave strokes you didn't even know could be shaved.  
 

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I've been seeing steady improvement this year. Today I played Lake of Isles and it just kicked my butt. Couldn't get off the tee. Nd I just had no chance.
 

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Shot 80 today at Rehoboth. My 82-year-old buddy Arthur Jodat shot 76! 35 on front. Golf is a game for all ages.
 

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jercra said:
Any chance of posting video?  Pulls can be caused by lots of things.  Is it a pull hook or a pull fade or a pull straight?  Lots of people who tend to slice also tend to pull as a result of having a very steep swing plane (high hands and high shaft angle on the takeaway).  If you come straight back down on plane you'll slice it.  If you try to avoid the slice you have to drop the left shoulder and the hands come from way outside to way inside.  The result is a really solid feeling shot that goes very left.  The other result is feeling very unbalanced, like all of your weight either stayed back or never went back.
 
Without video I'd focus on 2 things.  First, check your takeway and make sure you're hands and club are in the right position at takeaway.  Second, try to make sure to keep your shoulders level through the swing.  I like the drill SBS posted too where you put the ball way forward in your stance.  If you're diving at the ball you'll never hit it that far forward in your stance.
 
First, the bad video. And I know I have terrible posture, always have.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYmWuTWwMrw
 
If you can't tell, that was a complete pull-snap-hook, probably about 75 yds left of target and very low. Uggh. My right shoulder was completely dipping, among many other problems.
 
I then went to the range yesterday and incorporated some of the suggestions I received in this thread (mainly trying to keep my shoulders level), and this was the result:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKvk8ZTzHZU
 
This was about a 290 yard power-fade, which is my typical ballflight. Needless to say, I was very pleased. Thanks everyone for the advice! Golf is a fickle game.
 
Edit: Wow the 2nd video's thumbnail looks weird. Not sure why youtube chose that particular frame.
 

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I'm the last guy here you want evaluating your swing, but if it looks like you're breaking your wrists too early.  Even in the preview of the second video you can see it. The upper half of the shaft is already perpendicular with your left forearm and you hips haven't even started rotating yet.
 

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That swing is not bad overall but I'd bet that you'll be very inconsistent with the longer clubs.  Phragle is right on with looking at your wrists.  You flip the club back instead of leading the backswing with the clubhead.  You then flip the club coming down.  That makes it really difficult to get back to the same place every time.  Try putting a ball about a foot behind your driver and rolling it straight back on your takeaway.  This should be hard to do if you're breaking you wrists too early.
 
The 2nd video looks much better from the perspective of keeping your shoulders level but it had another effect that I think is correcting for root cause of your snaphook miss.  You have a very active lower half.  Do you struggle out of fairway bunkers?  You have a lot of up and down movement due to the movement of your lower half.  This is effecting everything from swing plane to balance.  Try thinking of rotating over your right leg instead of any back and forth movement.  Watch and of the pros and look at how little they move they're legs during a swing and then watch your videos again.  Here's a little youtube lesson using Adam Scott's swing that has some stuff about backswing and legs.
 

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phragle said:
I'm the last guy here you want evaluating your swing, but if it looks like you're breaking your wrists too early.  Even in the preview of the second video you can see it. The upper half of the shaft is already perpendicular with your left forearm and you hips haven't even started rotating yet.
Well from what I see its not as much as a wrist issue as it is a body turning issue.  I usually tell people to fire the right knee into the left knee before you do anything.  
 
Trust the hands.  People always feel late, but you need to give your hand eye coordination more credit.  It'll get there.
 
Thanks for posting the video iJWT.  Here is what I see.... I'm a freaking amatuer and self taught video guy so let that be known.
 
1) You're extremely aggressive with the lower body on you back swing.  You back hip turn is pretty enormous.  Having to clear your hips to much on the downswing is hard for you to do in that position so your hands are in front of you lower body rotation.   This isn't a horrible thing.  I'd rather have someone with an aggressive lower body that needs to shorten up a little bit than someone who is "hip locked."  
 
2) Everyone has there own swing, so take this for what its worth.  I'd LIKE you to get more on your heels.  On your back swing your left knee goes inward toward the ball a lot and I'd rather it be more stable.  When you watch a professional golfer they don't stick there left knee out much, its more of there back hip loading which give the impression that the left knee is moving outward.  Again, there are people who play on their toes and are really really good.  But I think the majority of people would be better off trying to get on their heels.
 
3) Your lower body is falling a bit toward the ball on the downswing.  This is causing your upper body to stand up on the down swing because it is literally the only way you can hit the ball well.  When you stand up it stops hip rotation and will cause your hands, once again, to get in front of the ball.  This is the snap hook bullshit your dealing with.  You're right knee is diving at the ball when it needs to be diving at the left knee.   When you do this its impossible to keep a posture through the ball.
 
You do alot of good things.  Good stuff to build on.  I'd focus on #3.  Your rotation is going toward the ball when it really should be parallel to the ball.
 
Lower body is fading to the ball causing the upper body to fade away from the ball which is making your hands do way more shit than they should.  This is really freaking hard to explain through text.  I may make a video this afternoon to try and show this.

Edit: Jercra saw the same thing. Less noise in the lower body.
 

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So I had some time to kill for lunch.  Here is what I'm trying to tell you.  These pictures should help.  I just used my own because I already had them uploaded.

Address.  I have drawn two lines.  One from my toe straight up and another from my ass down.  These are our references for our lower body positioning.
 

probably 75% of the lower body movement is already done here.  You'll notice my left knee hardly went forward at all.  The movement is loading my right hip rather than pushing my left knee forward.
 

At this point I'm pretty much done with the lower body back swing.  My right hip is loaded.  Almost all the weight is transferred and feels in my right heel.  What I want you to notice it how little my lower body moves these next pictures to complete the backswing.  
 


See?  They haven't moved hardly at all. My hips are in a good position to fire from here.  What you want to do is try and "shoot" you right knee into your left knee.  But you want to keep your ass back.  You are moving your butt forward and its causing your entire body to straighten up.
 

Look at the back leg, notice its angle.  It still has some "squat" to it.  If you have any chance at keeping some posture through this swing you have to maintain some of that angle.  I have moved forward a little, but the goal is to keep your butt as close to that back line as possible.
 

This isn't perfect.  I wish I would have my hips even more cleared than this.  But what you want to do, again, is maintain that angle so you don't stand up with your upper body.  You have to keep your lower body angles to have any sort of consistent movement.
 

Try to finish right where you started.
 

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Finally put together a decent round yesterday (played about 15 rounds).  Shot 85.  Hitting my driver well, and hitting my fairway woods great, as well as my wedges and 8-9 irons.  Left a few putts out there (which is the real strength of my game) because the greens are just so slow as they are letting them grow a bit (both sides have been re-done in the past 2 years).
 
However, I still cannot hit a mid to long iron (4-7) and have no fucking idea why.  I am absolutely firing darts from around 150-155 with my 8 iron, 9 iron and wedge is the same, but once I get a 7 or lower in my hand, dead shank.  I'm at the point where I'm just choking down on a 5 wood for anything from 175+ instead of hitting a 4-6 iron like I normally would.  I really shortened my back swing in the past couple years to great effect, but I feel like I'm barely even bringing this clubs back at all, and just getting stuck and slapping at the ball on the way down.  Just feels completely off, like the irons are just too long for me or something.  I don't know, I have to get to the range with the pro and figure something out.
 
On the plus side, my handicap has already climbed from 9 to 12 (home course, index is at 10.5 now), and will likely continue to go up to about 14 just in time for some of our major tournaments.  My buddy set the course record at Andover yesterday, with a 63, record had stood for over 60 years at 64.  Pretty cool to see.
 

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Thanks all for the advice. I'm going out this afternoon (if this rain holds off anyway) and will try to incorporate some of your suggestions.

I've always had a funky homemade swing so I appreciate your help!
 

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Another question that I could use some help on.
 
 
Still trying to pull the trigger on a 3 wood shaft.  I'd like to get the TP RUL shaft, and on eBay there are a few of them.  One of them is pretty cheap, and the seller has a great rating so I'm pretty sure its legit.  The shaft length is 41.75 inches.  Is that the standard shaft length?  I can't find anything on GolfWRX about shaft length.  The standard club length, and the length that I prefer, is 43.5''.  The shaft is 41.75 inches but doesn't have the Rocketballz sleeve on it nor is it attached to a clubhead.  Once those things happens, what will the length of the club be?
 

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Is it a pulled shaft or a new shaft?  If it's pulled, and pulled from the same type of club, then it should be the stock length, whatever that is.  There's no such thing as a standard length 3-wood shaft.  If it's been custom cut then 
 
The sleeve and clubhead will have an impact on total length from ground to top of grip but it should be exactly the same length as a non-removable hozel.  In other words, you don't need to change the length of the shaft to account for an adjustable club.  The shaft is generally about 1 1/2 inches deep into the hozel (heh).  You can measure your club from there down to the bottom of your club and you should get roughly the total length of the finished club.
 
If it's a new shaft then it will be plenty long and you'll have to cut it to whatever length you want (keeping the same info as above in mind).
 
The biggest mistake people make buying a shaft off of ebay is to not pay attention to the tip dimensions.  If it was pulled from the same club you should be fine but if you have a .335 hozel and get .370 shaft then you're screwed.
 

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Zomp and whoever im always down to play. Live in attleboro. 16 handicap currently in my 3rd year of playing more than once a month. Putting is the culprit im actually fairly accurate w my irons and 75 percent of the time i swing my driver long and straight
 

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So, pretty bad slice and pretty bad approaches eh TFP?  1 GIR will lead to big scores.  With your 2-putt average you should be able to score better.  Hit the center of the green more and your scores will drop dramatically.  
 
I also snuck out for a morning 18.  I didn't keep score because I was playing with a 30+ handicapper and helping him more than playing for myself but I feel like I'm never going to adjust to playing in Colorado.  How does an 8-iron from the rough fly over the whole green from 185 to a front pin?  Doesn't seem possible.  8 was a 165 club back in Portland.  I may switch to a 4 hybrid, drop the 3 hybrid and the 4-iron and pick up a 64* wedge.  Seems crazy to me but I have so many 75-90 yard shots out here that I'm constantly playing touch approaches and either hitting them way long or leaving them short because I'm trying not to leave them long.
 

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I'm a lefty, so was pulling not slicing. I hit the ball well, had two blow up holes (1 and 5) which ruined my score. I'm not consistent enough yet to hit enough GIR but I was around every other green in reg and didn't use my chipping well enough. Not unhappy with the round even though it wasn't a good score, if that will make sense.
 

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Golf newbie here looking for a little help for my wife.  Her parents bought us clubs a couple years ago and we go to the range occasionally and play a few times a year.  She never really enjoyed it because she couldn't get consisent contact.  Someone suggested that her clubs may be too short so we got her fitted and they are, by about 1.5 inches.  She hit much better and enjoyed it a lot more in the store.  After a little bit in a simulator the guy at the golf store suggested that she use senior men's clubs. 
 
Her birthday and mother's day are pretty close together so she asked me to get her some new irons (her driver is ok).  I'm on a budget for this and don't want to drop too much coin on what is essentially an occasional hobby.  The store she was measured at ranged from about $300-$1,000 for senior men's clubs so I'm venturing onto the web for a solution.  This is where I need help.  I googled around a bit last night and was completely overwhelmed.  Does anyone have recommendations for where to look or a particular brand that will be servicable without being crap?  I'm hoping to keep it under $300 and closer to $200 if possible.
 

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go to ebay.  look for the volume vendors of used clubs.  buy a good brand name used set at a reasonable price.   Callaway and Taylor Made are obvious choices.  Stay away from models aimed at highly skilled golfers (with "pro" in the name, for example), stick with forgiving, perimeter weighted clubs. 
 
For example, search on ebay for "callaway irons senior flex" setting the lowest price at $100 (to eliminate single clubs) and the highest price at $250.  Look for sets with perimeter weighting being sold by experience merchants who rate the quality of their clubs.   You can swap out "callaway" for taylor made, ping, mizuno, nike or several others and you will be safe. 
 

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+1 on Ebay.  Craigslist is another great resource.  What she's looking for are called Super Game Improvement clubs.  Here's a thread from GolfWRX on SGI clubs from last year that will get you headed in the right direction with brands and models.
 

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Deathofthebambino said:
Finally put together a decent round yesterday (played about 15 rounds).  Shot 85.  Hitting my driver well, and hitting my fairway woods great, as well as my wedges and 8-9 irons.  Left a few putts out there (which is the real strength of my game) because the greens are just so slow as they are letting them grow a bit (both sides have been re-done in the past 2 years).
 
However, I still cannot hit a mid to long iron (4-7) and have no fucking idea why.  I am absolutely firing darts from around 150-155 with my 8 iron, 9 iron and wedge is the same, but once I get a 7 or lower in my hand, dead shank.  I'm at the point where I'm just choking down on a 5 wood for anything from 175+ instead of hitting a 4-6 iron like I normally would.  I really shortened my back swing in the past couple years to great effect, but I feel like I'm barely even bringing this clubs back at all, and just getting stuck and slapping at the ball on the way down.  Just feels completely off, like the irons are just too long for me or something.  I don't know, I have to get to the range with the pro and figure something out.
 
On the plus side, my handicap has already climbed from 9 to 12 (home course, index is at 10.5 now), and will likely continue to go up to about 14 just in time for some of our major tournaments.  My buddy set the course record at Andover yesterday, with a 63, record had stood for over 60 years at 64.  Pretty cool to see.
"I'm sucking just in time for our major tournaments and my handicap is skyrockting...and I'm ecstatic about it...wooohooo!!!"  Amateur golf at its' finest, ladies and gentlemen...
 

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Import78 said:
Golf newbie here looking for a little help for my wife.  Her parents bought us clubs a couple years ago and we go to the range occasionally and play a few times a year.  She never really enjoyed it because she couldn't get consisent contact.  Someone suggested that her clubs may be too short so we got her fitted and they are, by about 1.5 inches.  She hit much better and enjoyed it a lot more in the store.  After a little bit in a simulator the guy at the golf store suggested that she use senior men's clubs. 
 
Her birthday and mother's day are pretty close together so she asked me to get her some new irons (her driver is ok).  I'm on a budget for this and don't want to drop too much coin on what is essentially an occasional hobby.  The store she was measured at ranged from about $300-$1,000 for senior men's clubs so I'm venturing onto the web for a solution.  This is where I need help.  I googled around a bit last night and was completely overwhelmed.  Does anyone have recommendations for where to look or a particular brand that will be servicable without being crap?  I'm hoping to keep it under $300 and closer to $200 if possible.
 
Reshafting would be the cheapest.
 

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This can't possibly be correct can it TFP?
 
 

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Without all those penalties (and that 10) you would have easily been in the 80's?  Does your course have a lot of OB or water or something?
 

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Nope, I definitely didn't have 8 penalty strokes. The 10 is correct (don't ask) but not sure how that happened with the penalty strokes. I tried entering it on my phone, I wonder if that messed it up somehow. I'll try to fix it online.
 
Today was absolutely the best I've ever struck the ball. I had 4 bad holes (a 10, and 3 7's) but had 6 pars and 7 bogeys which is just ridiculous consistency for me. If I can continue this swing quality then I'll be good going forward.
 

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Just fixed it, the 3 penalty strokes on 9 were supposed to be the putts. Still, a 95 with 5 penalty strokes was my round. The penalty stroke on 16 was tough too, I could have found my ball but we had people up our ass so I just dropped one in the rough where mine was close and hit it (it was also late in the round and beers were flowing so I wasn't that worried).
 
Things are slowly coming around.
 

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Went out and played Hidden Valley today.  Tight tract and it's a mountain course so a lot of big elevation changes, some great scenery as well.  Shot an 88 and was very happy with it.  The greens on this course are very well protected by sand and are extremely slippery.  
 

SouthernBoSox

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I've hit the Callaway X hot fairway woods at some ranges before. I finally bought it and played my first round this morning. Shot a 68 (par 71) for my year low round. I used my driver 3 times. I was 270-280 off the tee with the new three wood. Stupid long three wood. I had plenty of room around me so I had a couple holes where I'd hit my driver after my tee shot just to see the difference. It was only around 20 yards longer than the three. Crazy stuff. I doubt I use my driver much going forward. My buddy at Callaway told me that Gary Woodland was hitting his 3 wood to far and messing up his gaps. They had to put a steel shaft in it.

If you haven't updated clubs recently I think that fairway woods have taken the biggest leap forward BY FAR in the past year. Drivers really haven't changed a hole lot, but these 3 woods are insane.

I actually think the large headed driver is going to become a thing of the past. The technolgy is just amazing.
 

TFP

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I'll agree with that. I started hitting my Rocketballz 3 wood off the tee yesterday and was absolutely piping it. Had one that ended up going 290 and most were about 250-270. Thing felt great was way way more consistent than my driver.
 

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Shot a 44-47 today , played really well on ghe front 9. A duffed drive a par 5 set me up for a double but other than that struck the ball really well. Started to fizzle on the back, a triple om a par 3 killed by shot of my first round in fhe 80's this year. Just nice yo get out there and string some good holes together , I had been playing terrible so far this season. It also helps that my club is back to normal after hosting a US Open qualifier. Which is good because the greens and rough were destroying my confidence.
 

jercra

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Hard not to agree on the 3-wood.  Today I played a course with a 303 carry over water to the flag.  Pulled the 3-wood (RBZ) and flew it to the pin and rolled it off the back of green (in Co. so not as amazing as it sounds).  Total distance was about 310.  Also drove a 334 carry RBZ driver today so there's not nothing to the driver difference but I can certainly control the 3-wood more.  Stupid punched and sanded greens ruined my round (along with a local giving me lines for a guy who hits it 240 off the tee into lakes and OB) so I still scored poorly.
 

doldmoose34

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ok skitzo golf at its best.. Thurs night in league and side match going I was fucking patethic shot a 51, played in a scramble Friday, made a few good shots, but it was wicked windy and one of my buddys, an 7 'cap, suggested tuning the RBZ driver back down to its 10.5, the little controlled fade was back
 
fast forward to this afternoon, hit big slice into hazard on 1, dropped, made 7, played last 8 holes 3 over, 41  its nothing for you low cappers but I'm a 19.6 index 23 home  that was playing for me
 

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The Four Peters said:
Today was absolutely the best I've ever struck the ball. I had 4 bad holes (a 10, and 3 7's) but had 6 pars and 7 bogeys which is just ridiculous consistency for me. If I can continue this swing quality then I'll be good going forward.
Still striking the ball well, but penalty strokes and blow up holes are still killing me during my round yesterday. Lost a ball on one hole that shouldn't have been a lost ball (was a blind shot but was definitely in play) so I had to go back and re-hit. Then the next hole (island green) I went all tin cup and put it in the water 3 times. 2 holes later I hit a beautiful tee shot with my 3 wood that just pulled into the woods and couldn't find the ball again. 5 penalty strokes in 4 holes and my round was trashed.
 
Add in the fact that my short game was trash and it makes for a horrible round. Still happy with the progress I've made in striking the ball and feel like I'm really close to putting it all together. Playing Shining Rock in Northborough on Friday, looking forward to that.
 

drtooth

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Went out and bought the Hot-x 3 wood.  Ball jumps off the club.  Hits balls today for the first time since my carpal tunnel surgery in Feb.  Irons may take a while.  They had my swing speed at 94-95 mph with the new 3 wood.  Not sure if that;'s good, bad or otherwise
 

Dogman

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So, folks, talk to me about RocketBladez irons. 
 
I demo'ed both the tour model with KBS shafts-stiff and the regular model with rocketfuel 85's X-stiff and I really liked both.  Both played a little bit longer (~2-5 yards with short irons and 5-10 with long) than my current irons (TM Burners-stiff circa 1996) and I was able to do similar things that I currently do with both sets. High draws/fades, low cuts/punches and some other basic shot shaping.  My swing is configured to play a draw if I'm not shaping other shots.
 
One of the things I was hoping for was to try the DG shafts but the rep didn't have the model set up so I couldn't.  I've heard great things about these shafts but I'm not entirely sure they are necessary especially given the price difference. 
 
Little background:  I finished last season at a 10.  This was the first season I didn't finish as a single digit since I was 25.  Most of that has to do with not playing as much towards the end of last year so I'm not worried my game is slipping.  I'd say I left 3-4 shots per round out there with my short game because my driving and greens in reg is still pretty solid.  I've worked on my chipping and putting considerably this spring to change this and so far, it's paying dividends. I'm a 6'1 and 205 version of Frat. ( I'd like to drop 10 pounds but that's neither here nor there).
 
At any rate, technology has changed so much that I figure I can only benefit from upgrading my irons. Besides, I haven't spent a cent on them in 17 years.
 
So, tell me what you think.
 

SouthernBoSox

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Dogman2 said:
So, folks, talk to me about RocketBladez irons. 
 
I demo'ed both the tour model with KBS shafts-stiff and the regular model with rocketfuel 85's X-stiff and I really liked both.  Both played a little bit longer (~2-5 yards with short irons and 5-10 with long) than my current irons (TM Burners-stiff circa 1996) and I was able to do similar things that I currently do with both sets. High draws/fades, low cuts/punches and some other basic shot shaping.  My swing is configured to play a draw if I'm not shaping other shots.
 
One of the things I was hoping for was to try the DG shafts but the rep didn't have the model set up so I couldn't.  I've heard great things about these shafts but I'm not entirely sure they are necessary especially given the price difference. 
 
Little background:  I finished last season at a 10.  This was the first season I didn't finish as a single digit since I was 25.  Most of that has to do with not playing as much towards the end of last year so I'm not worried my game is slipping.  I'd say I left 3-4 shots per round out there with my short game because my driving and greens in reg is still pretty solid.  I've worked on my chipping and putting considerably this spring to change this and so far, it's paying dividends. I'm a 6'1 and 205 version of Frat. ( I'd like to drop 10 pounds but that's neither here nor there).
 
At any rate, technology has changed so much that I figure I can only benefit from upgrading my irons. Besides, I haven't spent a cent on them in 17 years.
 
So, tell me what you think.
What else have you demo'ed?  I wouldn't make a decision until you hit the Mizuno MP-64.  They are the tits.  I will say I have a big Mizuno bias when it comes to irons.  I don't think anyone else really touches them, but I've been playing with them for years and I think once you start you just can't switch to other irons comfortably. 
 
I will say that 17 years is a LONG time for iron upgrade.  The biggest difference will be your forgiveness in the long irons.  I bet you'll lose a stroke/stroke and a half just with the upgrade.
 

inJacobyWeTrust

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Anybody else playing in this year's Cosgrove at Green Hill?  I'll be playing for my 3rd year now and it's always a great time.
 
Lots of good players in the field. Last year's winning score was 63-63=126 for 2 man best ball, which was pretty ridiculous. 
 

Dogman

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SouthernBoSox said:
What else have you demo'ed?  I wouldn't make a decision until you hit the Mizuno MP-64.  They are the tits.  I will say I have a big Mizuno bias when it comes to irons.  I don't think anyone else really touches them, but I've been playing with them for years and I think once you start you just can't switch to other irons comfortably. 
 
I will say that 17 years is a LONG time for iron upgrade.  The biggest difference will be your forgiveness in the long irons.  I bet you'll lose a stroke/stroke and a half just with the upgrade.
 
 
I also hit the r11's and the Rocketballz HP.  I can't say I didn't like them but I hit the bladz a bit more crisp. 
 
I have not demo'ed any other iron set but I'm certainly willing to try the Mizuno. I'm a bit of brand loyalist but I'd have no problem switching if I my scored changed by 4-5 shots with the mizuno.
 
Yeah, I definitely know I need to upgrade.  I'm still happy with my burner results and that's why I haven't.  But, it's time.