Twib, can't quote posts, but you may be right, however, I think he ceased be a holder at some point there. I went back and rewound it and watched it in super slow motion. He caught the snap, put the ball down and then lost the handle on the ball. He regained the handle and then attempted to re-spot it. At that point, the kicker then aborted the kick, and then with his knee still down, he started to get up and run with it. I think had he caught the snap and got up immediately, he would have been ok, but when he bobbled it and then re-spotted it, I think he had to lift his knee off the ground before running with it. I could be wrong, but that would be my interpretation. interesting question anyway, but it doesn't matter in the end.