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#yankees did NOT include Justus Sheffield in offer to #orioles. He's been excluded.
#yankees did NOT include Justus Sheffield in offer to #orioles. He's been excluded.
Yes, because Machado is a shitty defensive SS and Gleyber shouldn't switch there in July in a pennant race. Also Didi doesn't really help BAL, he is a FA after next season.What if Didi is in the offer? Would we be upset??
Yes. I don't want Machado
It could be, but not only would Machado be a massive defensive upgrade, he has great career numbers against all of the BOS starters. NY has a huge pool of high-ceiling pitching prospects to deal from, so it could make sense both ways.I still think this is a giant smokescreen to drive up the price, but we'll find out soon enough
John Sterling is against it, too. Rare that he voices a strong opinion on the radio but he just did.What if Didi is in the offer? Would we be upset??
Yes. I don't want Machado
Sure, but Ffangraphs has never signed a baseball player. 3B or SS he’s still a *very* valuable, 25 yo player. If he demands it, he’ll get it as it only takes one. Maybe he’s willing to back off of that if the contract offers are vastly different, but I don’t think it’ll come to that.I don't think it's that simple, he is going from being a historically good defensive weapon at 3B to seemingly really bad at SS. Eno Sarris wrote a piece a few days ago at The Athletic (pay), "Is Manny Machado really as bad as he’s looked at shortstop?". He thinks it's SSS and noise and no one could drop off like this so quickly, but these are the numbers:
"By defensive metrics, Machado went from one of the best third baseman of his time to one of the worst shortstops on record. The sample isn’t huge, since we’ve only had these defensive metrics since 2002, but the difference really is that radical. Since the start of 2014, only two third basemen were better with the glove. By the same metric, this year’s effort at shortstop is the 11th-worst since FanGraphs started using Ultimate Zone Rating as a defensive metric in 2002."
https://theathletic.com/421436/2018/07/05/sarris-is-manny-machado-really-as-bad-as-hes-looked-at-shortstop/
Where are you seeing that? Jim Bowden’s invented ramblings? Drury is cost controlled for a while, but I think if this happens, it will mostly be pitching prospects.Are the Orioles seriously interested in Brandon freaking Drury?
Link?The guy who broke the Aaron Boone news. Also, Barstool guy who got the Stanton trade says a deal is close.
Is that Colt Harmon? All I see is the German/Frazier/Drury package that I thought Jim Bowden made up out of thin air yesterday.The guy who broke the Aaron Boone news.
No, you're right to an extent but he has truly been awful there so far and the eye test agrees that his lateral quickness doesn't seem well suited to SS at this point. Eno Sarris did a piece on it last week in The Athletic and concluded:Regarding Machado’s defensive numbers this season...don’t those take > season to stabilize? How useful are his SS numbers given that he hasn’t played there in years? Am I just confused and thinking of predictive value?
Well at least I'm learning I haven't watched him in the field too much this season. Is that quote meant to be damning, though? It reads to me like "he may look awful, but he may not really be." I do wonder if he's bulked up over at third at all and if maybe he changes his conditioning if he desires to play SS that much.No, you're right to an extent but he has truly been awful there so far and the eye test agrees that his lateral quickness doesn't seem well suited to SS at this point. Eno Sarris did a piece on it last week in The Athletic and concluded:
"Playing shortstop looks like something Manny Machado shouldn’t be doing right now. But looks can be deceiving, particularly when it comes to defense. In the short term, at least, someone as good as he was defensively at third base should be able to handle shortstop, especially if their positioning is tightly managed. Don’t believe everything your eyes tell you. And with a sample size this small, don’t believe everything the stats tell you, either."
Wouldn't Andujar more likely be a lead piece going out for Machado?Bird waking up the last two nights means he's not going anywhere, so a Machado acquisition would almost certainly bump Andujar out of the lineup and into the lead piece for an impact SP, or even theoretically down to AAA (crazy for a guy with 40 extra base hits in the first half of his rookie season, but he certainly could keep working on D while he breaks all the IL hitting records).
Supposedly BAL wants young pitching, which NY has an insane amount of. It depends what you think of Andujar (see below), but he is almost certainly an overpay for 2 1/2 months of Machado even on his own.Wouldn't Andujar more likely be a lead piece going out for Machado?
My educated guess is that if they trade for Machado (not too likely IMO given BAL's decision making process or lack thereof), Cashman would try to immediately deal Andujar as the lead piece for an impact SP, maybe Fulmer, because if they did deal for Machado, it would be in part because Cashman knows Machado wants to play in NY and he is willing to pay for him. They have Drury as a possibility also, although it sounds like he would likely go in a Machado deal.If they deal for Machado, and assuming Baltimore doesn’t want Andujar, do you think they keep him as insurance against Manny not signing long term, or do they roll the dice and then see what pitching they get for him? I’m of the opinion that if they land MM they’ll be able to sign him long term.
He sucks. I wouldn't give up much for him. I'd rather take a shot on Skaggs or Heaney.HOU shelled Fulmer today, 4.2 10 7 7 2 2. Good luck to Cashman these next couple of weeks, he is going to need it.
Did you see Eovaldi's start last night against the Twins? 2.2 9 8 8 2 1, that did not help his value.Allegedly they are in on Eovaldi, Skaggs and Heaney. There just isn't anything good out there.
Link? I can’t find anythingHeyman has some rumors about Sonny Gray going to the Brewers, who really need SP help and their pitching coach was Gray's pitching coach at Vanderbilt. NY would need to trade for someone to take his spot, then they'd have Severino/Tanaka/CC/new guy and Sheffield/German/Loaisiga to compete for the 5th spot.
Right, if they get rid of Gray, it would be because they were bringing in someone to replace him and also they believed in Sheffield and would give him a chance in German's spot soon, then you could have German/Loaisiga/Adams/Swanson in AAA and Acevedo in AA backing up a rotation of Severino/Tanaka/CC/new guy/Sheffield.Man, I'm wary to trade Sonny. He certainly has the talent. You trade him and then have to rely on German in the 4 spot the rest of the year?
Only way I trade Sonny is if a separate deal brings back deGrom or another ace. Otherwise, I'd rather roll the dice that Sonny and Happ are interchangeable except for cost.
Unless their pitching coach is sure he can fix Gray because of their history and they know they can acquire him relatively cheaply.It’s not really a rumor anyway, because anyone looking for pitching is probably trying to do much better than Gray.
I really really hope NY doesn't end up with Gausman. He has absolutely filthy stuff when he's on; I just know y'all would find some way to fix him and fulfill his ace potential.Gausman is an interesting one who has been rumored, a Machado/Gausman/Britton package (also rumored) could probably get me to include Sheffield (oof). Gausman is under contract through 2020 and has only pitched in the AL East, plus he fits in well to NY's throw fewer FBs theory. Of course I will believe Angelos will sign off on any deal with NY when I see it, not holding my breath even if Cashman does offer him the best deal.
Carlos Martinez might represent the exact type of upgrade that fits into the wheelhouse of what we need vs what we're willing to give up.With the Cardinals implosion, apparently Carlos Martinez might be available.
Makes you wonder who isn't available if the Yankees dangle Frazier, Andujar, etc.