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#yankees did NOT include Justus Sheffield in offer to #orioles. He's been excluded.
#yankees did NOT include Justus Sheffield in offer to #orioles. He's been excluded.
Yankees Trade Rumors & News
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Yes, because Machado is a shitty defensive SS and Gleyber shouldn't switch there in July in a pennant race. Also Didi doesn't really help BAL, he is a FA after next season.
It could be, but not only would Machado be a massive defensive upgrade, he has great career numbers against all of the BOS starters. NY has a huge pool of high-ceiling pitching prospects to deal from, so it could make sense both ways.
If Cashman can pull off Stanton, Machado, Britton all in a span of six months without having given up Torres and Sheffield he should be made GM for life.
John Sterling is against it, too. Rare that he voices a strong opinion on the radio but he just did.
Hope you are okay with having same opinion as Pa Kettle.
Sure, but Ffangraphs has never signed a baseball player. 3B or SS he’s still a *very* valuable, 25 yo player. If he demands it, he’ll get it as it only takes one. Maybe he’s willing to back off of that if the contract offers are vastly different, but I don’t think it’ll come to that.
Where are you seeing that? Jim Bowden’s invented ramblings? Drury is cost controlled for a while, but I think if this happens, it will mostly be pitching prospects.
The guy who broke the Aaron Boone news. Also, Barstool guy who got the Stanton trade says a deal is close.
This is the Barstool article, I've been following that guy (Eric Hubbs) on Twitter today:
https://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/the-latest-about-a-potential-manny-machado-trade-to-the-yankees/?_branch_match_id=525009429909335112
https://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/the-latest-about-a-potential-manny-machado-trade-to-the-yankees/?_branch_match_id=525009429909335112
Is that Colt Harmon? All I see is the German/Frazier/Drury package that I thought Jim Bowden made up out of thin air yesterday.
There is a ton of smoke on twitter but nobody is referencing any sources. Just random fan speculation. It's almost like everyone is seeing something I can't find.
Bird waking up the last two nights means he's not going anywhere, so a Machado acquisition would almost certainly bump Andujar out of the lineup and into the lead piece for an impact SP, or even theoretically down to AAA (crazy for a guy with 40 extra base hits in the first half of his rookie season, but he certainly could keep working on D while he breaks all the IL hitting records).
A little embarrassed to be reporting this, especially as someone who was briefly a professional reporter at Time, but Machado evidently clicked 'like' on about 20 Instagram photoshopped pix of him in a Yankee uniform tonight. Here is one (he is 'machados13'):
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-sports-yankees-orioles-machado-mazzeo-20180712-story.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-sports-yankees-orioles-machado-mazzeo-20180712-story.html
Regarding Machado’s defensive numbers this season...don’t those take > season to stabilize? How useful are his SS numbers given that he hasn’t played there in years? Am I just confused and thinking of predictive value?
No, you're right to an extent but he has truly been awful there so far and the eye test agrees that his lateral quickness doesn't seem well suited to SS at this point. Eno Sarris did a piece on it last week in The Athletic and concluded:
"Playing shortstop looks like something Manny Machado shouldn’t be doing right now. But looks can be deceiving, particularly when it comes to defense. In the short term, at least, someone as good as he was defensively at third base should be able to handle shortstop, especially if their positioning is tightly managed. Don’t believe everything your eyes tell you. And with a sample size this small, don’t believe everything the stats tell you, either."
Jon Heyman on Twitter saying that the offer also doesn't include Frazier but opining that sides don't appear to be close either.
Well at least I'm learning
I haven't watched him in the field too much this season. Is that quote meant to be damning, though? It reads to me like "he may look awful, but he may not really be." I do wonder if he's bulked up over at third at all and if maybe he changes his conditioning if he desires to play SS that much.
Rosenthal: Phillies increased offer for Machado, Dodgers and Yankees remain strongest, Brewers fading, DBacks rising.
Supposedly BAL wants young pitching, which NY has an insane amount of. It depends what you think of Andujar (see below), but he is almost certainly an overpay for 2 1/2 months of Machado even on his own.
Joel Sherman just wrote an interesting piece on Andujar and his value/trade value, I think everyone quoted here is probably exaggerating for their own benefit, but he is certainly not a finished project in terms of defense (worrisome) and plate discipline (less worrisome given his superb results so far with his current approach).
https://nypost.com/2018/07/13/yankees-privately-are-not-high-on-miguel-andujar-rival-execs/
If they deal for Machado, and assuming Baltimore doesn’t want Andujar, do you think they keep him as insurance against Manny not signing long term, or do they roll the dice and then see what pitching they get for him? I’m of the opinion that if they land MM they’ll be able to sign him long term.
My educated guess is that if they trade for Machado (not too likely IMO given BAL's decision making process or lack thereof), Cashman would try to immediately deal Andujar as the lead piece for an impact SP, maybe Fulmer, because if they did deal for Machado, it would be in part because Cashman knows Machado wants to play in NY and he is willing to pay for him. They have Drury as a possibility also, although it sounds like he would likely go in a Machado deal.
But if Cashman couldn't get a SP he thought was worth moving Andujar for, he could send him back to AAA, get an extra year of control, and try to deal him again this winter.
Yup, pretty much what I’m thinking on my end too, thanks for the inside angle. They could probably also work out a 3-team with Andujar going elsewhere for the pitching that acquires Manny (again, coming down to signing confidence, but I think if he goes north he stays).
Of course, any of these are a nightmare scenario for me but that’s not apropos to the mechanics of it all. If only Machado was 5+ years older like the old NYY days!
Of course, any of these are a nightmare scenario for me but that’s not apropos to the mechanics of it all. If only Machado was 5+ years older like the old NYY days!
He sucks. I wouldn't give up much for him. I'd rather take a shot on Skaggs or Heaney.
Did you see Eovaldi's start last night against the Twins? 2.2 9 8 8 2 1, that did not help his value.
Gausman is an interesting one who has been rumored, a Machado/Gausman/Britton package (also rumored) could probably get me to include Sheffield (oof). Gausman is under contract through 2020 and has only pitched in the AL East, plus he fits in well to NY's throw fewer FBs theory. Of course I will believe Angelos will sign off on any deal with NY when I see it, not holding my breath even if Cashman does offer him the best deal.
Steinbrenner on YES right now in an interview with Meredith <insert last name> and talking about the prospects. He's providing some insight into the thought process "we know that we're gonna have to eventually give up some of these kids but if we do, we at least want to do it for players that'll be around for awhile."
Heyman has some rumors about Sonny Gray going to the Brewers, who really need SP help and their pitching coach was Gray's pitching coach at Vanderbilt. NY would need to trade for someone to take his spot, then they'd have Severino/Tanaka/CC/new guy and Sheffield/German/Loaisiga to compete for the 5th spot.
Here, in both the Brewers and Yankees sections:
https://fancredsports.com/articles/inside-baseball-mlb-notes-mike-trouts-mickey-man
https://fancredsports.com/articles/inside-baseball-mlb-notes-mike-trouts-mickey-man
Man, I'm wary to trade Sonny. He certainly has the talent. You trade him and then have to rely on German in the 4 spot the rest of the year?
Only way I trade Sonny is if a separate deal brings back deGrom or another ace. Otherwise, I'd rather roll the dice that Sonny and Happ are interchangeable except for cost.
Only way I trade Sonny is if a separate deal brings back deGrom or another ace. Otherwise, I'd rather roll the dice that Sonny and Happ are interchangeable except for cost.
I don’t think Cash would be settling for Happ or Hameln if Gray is on the market. It’s not really a rumor anyway, because anyone looking for pitching is probably trying to do much better than Gray.
Right, if they get rid of Gray, it would be because they were bringing in someone to replace him and also they believed in Sheffield and would give him a chance in German's spot soon, then you could have German/Loaisiga/Adams/Swanson in AAA and Acevedo in AA backing up a rotation of Severino/Tanaka/CC/new guy/Sheffield.
Unless their pitching coach is sure he can fix Gray because of their history and they know they can acquire him relatively cheaply.
I really really hope NY doesn't end up with Gausman. He has absolutely filthy stuff when he's on; I just know y'all would find some way to fix him and fulfill his ace potential.
With the Cardinals implosion, apparently Carlos Martinez might be available.
Makes you wonder who isn't available if the Yankees dangle Frazier, Andujar, etc.
Makes you wonder who isn't available if the Yankees dangle Frazier, Andujar, etc.
Carlos Martinez might represent the exact type of upgrade that fits into the wheelhouse of what we need vs what we're willing to give up.
However, he is signed on quite a reasonable contract and I'm not sure the Cardinals will feel any pressure to deal him.
Signed thru 2021, 5 yrs/$51M (17-21) & 22-23 team option