Why Do I Continue to Read Peter King?

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King won the NSSA 2013 sportswriter of the year award, beating other amazing writers including bill simmons, rick reilly, and bob ryan who isn't even full time anymore so I think it's time to stop ragging on him guys
 
What the hell is Bob Ryan doing being mentioned in the same breath as those other writers?  How dare they?
 
 
So the NSSA is the sports media's version of the Razzies, right?
 

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King won the NSSA 2013 sportswriter of the year award, beating other amazing writers including bill simmons, rick reilly, and bob ryan who isn't even full time anymore so I think it's time to stop ragging on him guys
 
Weird.
 

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Who in holy fuck decides to go to Grand Central to do shopping?!   That's like driving out to the airport to eat dinner.  What a fucking clueless asshole.
 
The Christmas markets in Grand Central (and Bryant Park, and elsewhere) do have some good gift stuff you can't get elsewhere.
 

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Lose Remerswaal said:
 
The Christmas markets in Grand Central (and Bryant Park, and elsewhere) do have some good gift stuff you can't get elsewhere.
 
Maybe so, but acting all butt-hurt because a fucking train station is busy during the holiday season is stupid.
 

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Maybe so, but acting all butt-hurt because a fucking train station is busy during the holiday season is stupid.
 
Agreed but Grand Central does have some really cool shops and also has one of the best places to get fresh seafood. I'm sure PK wasn't there to get seafood and he should just use Amazon, of course, but then what would he have to complain about?
 

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Agreed but Grand Central does have some really cool shops and also has one of the best places to get fresh seafood. I'm sure PK wasn't there to get seafood and he should just use Amazon, of course, but then what would he have to complain about?
 
Amazon wouldn't ship him a locally crafted draft beer?
 

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Maybe so, but acting all butt-hurt because a fucking train station is busy during the holiday season is stupid.
 
I'm not sure why we are ever surprised at this sort of comment out of King.  His specialty is to take an otherwise reasonable point (there is good shopping on the concourse in Grand Central) and infuse it with so much arrogance, ignorance and/or entitlement and that it becomes completely unrecognizable. 
 
The concourse at Grand Central is a perfectly legitimate place to shop.  But King's cluelessness about how normal people live their lives was on full display in his little tidbit.  I mean, how could anyone be surprised that the Apple store in Grand Central would be mobbed right before Christmas?  More to the point, to be surprised by mobs of tourists shopping and doing touristy things (waiting for a picture next to the logo in the Apple store) during a period of time that you identify as "Tourist Season" is high comedy.
 
Peter King may never have written truer words when he summed it up by saying "I don’t get America." 
 

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I'm not sure why we are ever surprised at this sort of comment out of King.  His specialty is to take an otherwise reasonable point (there is good shopping on the concourse in Grand Central) and infuse it with so much arrogance, ignorance and/or entitlement and that it becomes completely unrecognizable. 
 
The concourse at Grand Central is a perfectly legitimate place to shop.  But King's cluelessness about how normal people live their lives was on full display in his little tidbit.  I mean, how could anyone be surprised that the Apple store in Grand Central would be mobbed right before Christmas?  More to the point, to be surprised by mobs of tourists shopping and doing touristy things (waiting for a picture next to the logo in the Apple store) during a period of time that you identify as "Tourist Season" is high comedy.
 
Peter King may never have written truer words when he summed it up by saying "I don’t get America." 
 
Breaking News: Tourists Go to Famous Landmark, Do Touristy Things.
 
As to the bolded, you left out managing to structure the observations that make him a savvy in-group type looking down on the outsider non-Manhattanite proles.  :buddy:
 

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The Apple store is a great vantage point from which to photograph Grand Central's iconic main hall.
 

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Peter King ‏@SI_PeterKing7m
Good luck in retirement, Kevin Gilbride. Those who criticize, remember: He dialed up plays that beat 18-0 NE and 15-3 NE for Super Bowls.
 
 
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A guy retires. Maybe pushed out. Offensive coordinator for 2 SB winning teams. And all you can do is rip him. What sad lives you have.
 
Peter King ‏@SI_PeterKing1m
The winners hold the Lombardi
The losers whine on Twitter
 
Just a reminder: he can always get worse.
 

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Hmmm ... since he's never held the Lombardi, that makes him ....
 
 
So, King was obviously watching "The Rock" on TV the other night and thought he'd make an unfunny quip based on that movie's catch-phrase.
 
Except he got it backwards and his version sucks.
 

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Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck Kevin Gilbride.
 

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King calls it "Holding the Lombardi"?  I thought he'd go with something more modern like "Pulling on the Peyton."
 

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Also, I mean, how many football players have ever "whined" about losing the Superbowl on Twitter (I mean, besides Marshall Faulk)?
 

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King calls it "Holding the Lombardi"?  I thought he'd go with something more modern like "Pulling on the Peyton."
 
Fellating the Favre, Blowing the Brett, Fapping the Favre....all were much more likely than anything involving Peyton.
 
History, people. It matters.
 

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Corsi said:
Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck Kevin Gilbride.
 
When Gilbride was fired in San Diego back in 1998, King wrote this:
 
As an offensive coordinator in Houston, Gilbride took a disparate group of receivers --car collector Drew Hill, me-first Heywood Jeffires, ultimate team player Curtis Duncan and a man who never thought he got the ball enough, Ernest Givins -- and paired them with a very good quarterback, Warren Moon. Most coordinators would have pulled their hair out and had trouble pacifying Jeffires and Givins. Not Gilbride. He made a symphony of this group. Even the quiet guy who would have been happy with two balls a game, Duncan, was among the league leaders two seasons. And they were all happy. That's when I knew Gilbride was something special as a coach. In Jacksonville, Gilbride andMark Brunell bonded too. Brunell loved the even-keel, bright Gilbride. 
 
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/1998/10/13/king_tuesday/
 

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The takeaway from all this is that Gilbride was a Friend of Peter.
 

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Mr. Starwood Preferred Member Travel Note of the Week
Forward, friendly, 40ish guy next to me on the train from Grand Central Terminal to Stamford Friday: “Who was that on the phone?”
Me: “Dan Fouts.”
Forward guy: “THE Dan Fouts?”
Me: “I think so—the former football player.”
Forward guy: “How’d you get him on the phone?”
Me: “Texted him. He called back. Good guy.”
Forward guy: “I bet that’s cool, talking to Dan Fouts.”
Me: “Yeah, it’s good.”
Silence for the next 35 minutes. He texted, I wrote, I got off in Stamford, he got off, and that was it.
 
 
"Ain't I the COOLEST?!"
 
6. I think as redemptive as this season was for Riley Cooper, his third-quarter drop on a wide-open crossing route on third down was the biggest negative play of the game for Philadelphia. The Eagles trailed 13-7 when it happened—Cooper could have raced for at least 20 yards on the play—and the Saints, on the change of possession, drove for a touchdown to make it 20-7. Though the Eagles came back, that was one possession, in retrospect, where Philadelphia gave away points.
 
 
How was this season "redemptive"?  How has his performance on the football field redeemed his stunning ignorance?   If that's all it takes, hell, let's get Aaron Hernandez back on the field so he can "redeem" himself.
 
b. My old buddy Mark Purdy might be the only person alive who attended the Freezer Bowl in Cincinnati 32 years ago (he wrote for the Cincinnati Enquirer then) and the Niners-Packers game Sunday (he writes for the San Jose Mercury News now). We spoke Sunday. We were on the same staff in Cincinnati; I was in Indianapolis that day, preparing to cover the Xavier-Butler basketball game at Hinkle Fieldhouse, where Xavier coach Bob Staak would be so cold in the 45-degree fridge of a building that he wore his overcoat on the bench that day. Anyway, Mark said it was significantly colder in Cincinnati for the 1982 game. “You walked outside and took your first breath and everything inside your nostrils froze,” he said. “This is really cold, but not like that.”
 
 
What the fuck does this have to do with anything? 
 
"Hey, guys, I've had it rough, too.  I was at a game where it was 45 degrees once!  The coach wore a coat!"
 
c. One of the cool things about working at NBC over the last eight years has been the chance to work in and around the Saturday Night Live set at Rockefeller Center.
 
 
"Hey, it's great to be me, eh?"
 
The first few years our set was the old Jeopardy studio, which was fun to me because that was my favorite game show as a kid (the Art Fleming version).
 
 
"Yep."
 
 
Once, in my dressing room prepping for a Saturday Notre Dame halftime segment, I stepped on a Taylor Swift red dress and got a big footprint on it. I don’t believe I was supposed to do that.
 
 
What the hell were you doing prior to being inside the studio that you got a "big footprint" on a dress (that was, what, on the floor?  On a rack?  How did you not see it?)?  Were you outside stomping in dog shit or something? 
 
I was aghast.
 
 
So aghast that you are telling the sporting world about it.
 
Aghast, my ass.  You're trying to impress us.
 
Guess that’s why they have quickie dry cleaners.
 
 
Yea, I'm sure Taylor will get right on that.
 

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John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
I don't read his column anymore, but did he really put that in? Seriously?
 
I bailed on him as well but checked because I couldn't believe it was real.
 
It is.
 

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What do you think the chances are that he was in the quiet car while he took the phone call and then talked to the guy? 80% 90?
 

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This year, that studio was under construction, and so we moved over to the SNL studio for a year, a crack carpentry crew transitioning the set many weekends from Justin Timberlake to Dan Patrick in a matter of hours.
 
 
You are just a celebrity/pop culture rolodex, today!
 
Wild-card Saturday was Football Night in America‘s last day on the SNL set, and—I don’t get this way too often—I had to take a few photos to commemorate the occasion.
 
 
We are so, so, happy that you got to have this experience, King.  I'm so glad you told us about your work environment, and how great it is.  Next week: "One of the nice things about my job is that it pays really well. Here are some of the things I bought last week..."
 
I often wrote a few chunks of this column on an applebox under a Miley Cyrus photo.
 
 
I do not believe you, unless you willingly refused the use of a desk/table purely so you could put this line in the column.   I also suspect he found the Miley Cyrus photo and placed it wherever he was for the same reason, if it isn't just complete bullshit.
 
 
Finally, no mention of Kluwe or anything.  He will, of course, wait until the team makes an official announcement regarding the investigation and then piggy-back on whatever their line is.  Coward.
 

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drleather2001 said:
 
You are just a celebrity/pop culture rolodex, today!
 
 
We are so, so, happy that you got to have this experience, King.  I'm so glad you told us about your work environment, and how great it is.  Next week: "One of the nice things about my job is that it pays really well. Here are some of the things I bought last week..."
 
 
I do not believe you, unless you willingly refused the use of a desk/table purely so you could put this line in the column.   I also suspect he found the Miley Cyrus photo and placed it wherever he was for the same reason, if it isn't just complete bullshit.
 
 
Finally, no mention of Kluwe or anything.  He will, of course, wait until the team makes an official announcement regarding the investigation and then piggy-back on whatever their line is.  Coward.
 
But he's writing a super special Tuesday edition of MMQB tomorrow!  I'm sure it will be in there....
 

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JimD said:
Not only that, but I'm pretty sure that most of his Midtown neighbors know that the station is actually Grand Central Terminal.
 
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Forward, friendly, 40ish guy next to me on the train from Grand Central Terminal to Stamford Friday: “Who was that on the phone?”
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Guess he got the memo!
 

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Harbaugh kissed writers.
Gadzooks. I doubt Tom Coughlin
ever kissed Vito.
 
 
Oh, look, it's an inside joke designed to charm one of King's buddies.
 
Even his stupid poems are biased and self serving.
 

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I refuse to read MMQB so I don't give this guy any clicks, but I look forward to this thread every Monday. Thanks all.
 

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John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
I don't read his column anymore, but did he really put that in? Seriously?
 
I'm 41. The number of dresses I have stepped on that have resulted in a footprint being left in it? Zero. This includes high school dances and proms and college formals that usually ended very drunkenly. But PK expects us to believe he somehow stepped on Taylor Swift's dress? That's just unpossible.
 

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RT @dannygberg: How many factual errors will be in this week's edition? ... 24. About half the usual.


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I'm gonna save this gem for later.  You know he's going to write some 20,000 word opus on the first NFL player to come out.  But in the meantime, "enough everyone!"
 
3. I think I don’t care one bit who Aaron Rodgers—or any player, coach, fan or writer—has sex with. Nor should anyone. If a player chooses to discuss, it’s his business. If not, leave it alone, world.
 

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As far as his Ice Bowl/Freezer Bowl reference, it took me about 15 seconds to come up with Forrest Gregg (player in 67, coach in 81).    And 'ol Forrest is even still alive to boot.
 
Edit:  Except that King was talking about the GB game yesterday, not in 1967, and I'm an idiot.  
 

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Mr. Starwood Preferred Member Travel Note of the Week
Forward, friendly, 40ish guy next to me on the train from Grand Central Terminal to Stamford Friday: “Who was that on the phone?”
Me: “Dan Fouts.”
Forward guy: “THE Dan Fouts?”
Me: “I think so—the former football player.”
Forward guy: “How’d you get him on the phone?”
Me: “Texted him. He called back. Good guy.”
Forward guy: “I bet that’s cool, talking to Dan Fouts.”
Me: “Yeah, it’s good.”
Silence for the next 35 minutes. He texted, I wrote, I got off in Stamford, he got off, and that was it.
 
 
"
Ain't I the COOLEST?!"
 
 
The thing is, if he was even slightly self-aware (or whatever it is that he isn't), he could attempt to point out NOT that he's the coolest, but that he's lucky to have a job he likes where people like Fouts call him back so that he can better do his job of informing his readers. While he's certainly earned his spot (bear with me....), that's no excuse for the complete lack of any sort of humility.
 
 
Is there anyone alive who thought it was colder in GB yesterday than in Cincinnatti (played on old-style concrete-backed Astroturf) back then?
 

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Under his "What I Didn't Like" section:

g. CBS’ Tracy Wolfson, late in the first half at Cincinnati, after a graphic showed a temperature of 41, with Wolfson wearing a knit hat and gloves: “It feels like San Diego weather.” As she spoke, it was 73 and mostly sunny in San Diego.


Jesus Christ, have a sense of humor. She was saying it tongue-in-cheek because the original forecast called for freezing temps and possible precipitation in Cincinnati.

I'm assuming this is just a way for King to show his bosses at 30 Rockefeller that he got CBS good!
 

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Of course, the difference between the temperature in San Diego and Cincinnati was almost exactly the same as the difference between Cincinnati and Green Bay. 
 
I guess the only people allowed to complain about the cold are tough sportswriters who brave the walk from the parking garage to the heated press area. 
 

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drleather2001 said:
Of course, the difference between the temperature in San Diego and Cincinnati was almost exactly the same as the difference between Cincinnati and Green Bay. 
 
I guess the only people allowed to complain about the cold are tough sportswriters who brave the walk from the parking garage to the heated press area. 
 
Even if the conditions had been as extreme as they were for Cincy in '82 or Green Bay in '67, the conditions would have much better for the simple reason that Green Bay has installed an underground heating system to make sure that they will never play on a completely frozen field again. 
 
In that sense, conditions were never going to be close to what the players had to endure in the other two games, where they felt like they were hitting concrete every time they fell.
 

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Well, of course.  And I was going to say something about the self-aggrandizing bit by his buddy ("It was much worse in '82!"), because after living in Minnesota for over five years, I can tell you: once it gets below about 10 degrees outside, it's just Really Cold.  Nobody consciously differentiates, or even cares beyond the "oh wow" factor, between it being -1 and -10, or 5 and -5, because you are so bundled up anyway, it's just academic.  Honestly, the relative quality of affordable warm weather clothing options in 1982 vs. those of 2014 probably have much more to do with how comfortable viewers would be at those two games.    But even that is dwarfed by the fact that the sportswriter King asked no doubt spent all but 10 minutes of his Sunday experience inside the heated confines of Lambeau, anyway. 
 
I guess the bottom line is that, look:  the Green Bay game was pretty fucking cold.  Anyone who was curious already knew that it didn't come that close to breaking the record, but still, that's a memorable experience for anyone who was there. 
 
But here comes King to piss on their parade.
 

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Average Reds said:
 
Even if the conditions had been as extreme as they were for Cincy in '82 or Green Bay in '67, the conditions would have much better for the simple reason that Green Bay has installed an underground heating system to make sure that they will never play on a completely frozen field again. 
 
In that sense, conditions were never going to be close to what the players had to endure in the other two games, where they felt like they were hitting concrete every time they fell.
 
fWIW--they had the system (a system, anyway) in '67, but it failed.
 

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That tidbit also illustrates another criticism of King: he has all of this access, and does nothing with it.  What did Fouts say?  Why do we care?
 
I've always gotten the impression that he talks to a TON of players/coaches/execs around the league, but for his own edification/ego-boosting.  He is not acting on behalf of his readers.