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Why Do I Continue to Read Peter King?

Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by John Marzano Olympic Hero, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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  2. MattCrashDavis

    MattCrashDavis Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    He dissed Prince TWICE after praising Billy Joel. Prince absolutely brought the house down at my Super Bowl party, I mean he was fucking amazing -- easily the best halftime show ever, not that it's saying much. And Billy Joel sounded like a drunk guy at a bad piano bar doing Billy Joel karaoke.

    Peter King, fuck yourself, you no-taste, complaining old douchebag.
     
  3. Clears Cleaver

    Clears Cleaver Lil' Bill SoSH Member

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    I agree that King came across as a 70-year old tool in this piece, but I have to argue that the U2 halftime show in 2002 was better than last night. And Price was awesome last night
     
  4. JohntheBaptist

    JohntheBaptist Member SoSH Member

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    Exactly. That's what I want- soundbites on rock music from Peter King and Rick Reilly.

    I saw King at Fenway in 05. He was in the Souvenir Store, with this backpack on, both straps hiked snug against his back, dressed like a 13 year old boy, trying to force his way to the front of the throng to (presumably) buy a Wally doll or something.
     
  5. drleather2001

    drleather2001 given himself a skunk spot SoSH Member

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    What's funny is about a month ago, his complaint about Prince playing at halftime was something like "Memo to NFL: When are you going to find someone who didn't peak 25 years ago to do the halftime show?"

    My immediate thought was: I don't remember him bitching last year, or the year before, when the Stones and Paul McCartney played. Furthermore, I don't think Peter King really has any idea who Prince is. He probably just remembers the name from the '80s and thinking "Oh, he's that girly purple guy" and thought it would be cool to make fun of him in his column.

    I thought the halftime show was very good. I would say it was second to the U2 show, which gets credit because it was the first halftime show that wasn't lip-synched (I think); and also because "Beautiful Day" was a recent hit and that album sort of spoke to 9/11 recovery (moving on, hope, redemption, etc...). So I think that show gets all the intangible edges. But in terms of actual performance, they were neck and neck.
     
  6. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Notice that King not only dissed Prince twice, but threw in a cheapshot about Al Green as well in his weekly mashnote about Starbucks. If he wants more variety among the Stabucks background music, fine; but why trash Al Green in doing so?

    odd, he had no problems with billy joel doing the anthem
     
  7. Smiling Joe Hesketh

    Smiling Joe Hesketh All Hail King Boron Dope

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    King's NFL reporting has always reminded me a bit of Nick Cafardo's baseball reporting. He's got his binkies in Parcells and Favre, just like Nick carries water for Nixon and Foulke. Both of them throw in "10 things I think I think" or "Apropos of nothing": little notes they toss out there with no reasonable insight or rationale behind them.
     
  8. Jack Sox

    Jack Sox Member SoSH Member

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    I stopped reading King this year when he couldn't get off his knees for Tony freakin' Romo, saying something to the effect, 'can you see any team in the NFL beating a Tony Romo led Cowboys team? Neither can I'. Yeah I'm pretty sure Romo was in his 3rd or 4th week starting too. Just another reactionary fatass hack.
     
  9. DLew On Roids

    DLew On Roids guilty of being sex Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Let's add to all this tattling about Bengals players being out until 5:00 am. Gee, rich 20-somethings on vacation are out until sunrise. I'm shocked. Imagine if they were actually doing something wrong.

    And I can't figure out if this is sincere or sarcastic:

     
  10. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    what the hell was king doing out at 5 a.m. to discover this? oh yeah, bitching about the tower records starbucks not opening until 7
     
  11. pedros hairstylist

    pedros hairstylist Allison?

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    If Peter Gammons was fat and knew nothing about music, he'd be Peter King.

    The guy comes across like a name-dropping blowhard on his weekly WEEI chats.
     
  12. Kowlooner

    Kowlooner The Milton Bradley of SoSH

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    I really enjoy reading his monday morning column despite agreeing with a lot of what has been said above.
     
  13. Nite Vizhun UV

    Nite Vizhun UV proctological researcher SoSH Member

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    Every time Peter King comments on the Red Sox, a little tiny piece of me wants to thrust a bat up his ass and mount him on a rotisserie.
     
  14. drleather2001

    drleather2001 given himself a skunk spot SoSH Member

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    Just thought this was funny:

    The line:

    "Yeah," Manning said. "I wanted it. Wanted it bad."

    Was followed a paragraph later with this [pared down for humor]:

    ". ... occasionally Manning would look over, making sure the 28 balls were getting conditioned to his liking. One guy kept taking the ball he was working with, putting it up his T-shirt, rolling it around to maximize the sweat on it, then rubbing the ball hard with his hands...

    After practice, Manning stayed late... feeling the balls. After 10 minutes, he had 28 he liked."
     
  15. Nuf Ced

    Nuf Ced stupidity monitor SoSH Member

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    Peter King also said that Andre Reed doesn't belong in the HOF because he was "a good player who benefited from a great offense," which is one of the more moronic things he's written.

    He's ignoring Reed's numbers like 951 career receptions, sixth in NFL history in total career receiving yards with 13,198, and 87 total career touchdown receptions. Reed also rushed for 500 yards and a touchdown on 75 carries.

    But Andre Reed never sucked up to King or palled around with him, so he'll never get that phony's vote.
     
  16. DLew On Roids

    DLew On Roids guilty of being sex Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    To be fair, I'm sure Art Monk hasn't palled around with King, and he gets the King of Starbucks' support.

    I absolutely cannot be rational about Art Monk--he's one of my all-time favorite players--so I won't even start to make an argument for him here.
     
  17. thrawnqq

    thrawnqq Member SoSH Member

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    Down here in DC we hear about how King is keeping Art Monk out of the HOF by pummeling him every year. If that is true, it seems like actively propagandizing against someone is pretty lame. Especially the guys who defined the reciever position between Ray Barry and Jerry Rice.
     
  18. thrawnqq

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    Hmm, I though that the guys on the radio were down on King for being against Monk. Maybe they are just blohards. Who knows.

    Here is a quote from last years HOF Q&A in Si, but maybe King has changed his tune.

    Some guy raves about Monk, then says:
    You really lose all credibility to me since you're not only a biased writer but one who likes to unfairly lower the accomplishments of a truly deserving player like Monk.''

    Peter responds:

    Thanks for writing, Stephen. It's interesting being a voter. If I don't vote for a certain player, then I have some bias against him. You and the other Monk supporters should know -- not that you'll believe me -- that I have no bias whatsoever against Monk. He was a very good and unselfish football player. I have a lot of admiration for him.

    There are quite a few differences between Carson and Monk, I believe. And not just in my opinion, but in their peers' opinions. Monk was voted to three Pro Bowls in 16 years. Just three times in 16 years did his peers consider him one of the four best receivers in his conference. Carson was voted to nine Pro Bowls in 13 years. Carson was the major reason why the Giants had the best run defense in the NFL for a seven- or eight-year period. I don't think you can say the presence of Monk on Washington's offense -- with a great deep threat like Gary Clark, with consistently good running backs, with a great offense line -- equated to Carson's impact on the Giants' D. Well, maybe you can, but I can't.

    And for all of the Monk supporters who think I'm the guy keeping him out of the Hall of Fame, just know that there are at least eight of the 38 other voters who have not voted for him -- and I think it's quite a few more than that given that he can't make it through the cut from 15 to 10.
     
  19. JohntheBaptist

    JohntheBaptist Member SoSH Member

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    Excusing how dumb the sentiment expressed here is, Prince did not cover "Jimmy" Hendrix last night, he covered fucking Dylan. "AATW" is a Dylan song.

    He also released an album in 2006.
     
  20. DLew On Roids

    DLew On Roids guilty of being sex Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    He wrote in today's column that he used to be strongly opposed to Monk's candidacy, but he's changed his mind.
     
  21. Who The Hell is Stan Papi

    Who The Hell is Stan Papi I Made My Train! Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    He's my neighbor...I will begin the bidding at 10k. Whacking him with his daughter's field hockey stick is extra (bonus pts for those around long enough to get that reference)
     
  22. thrawnqq

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    A week late, but maybe that will mean good things for Art next year.
    We shall see.
     
  23. Kowlooner

    Kowlooner The Milton Bradley of SoSH

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    This is one of the reasons I like King. He does read everyones feedback and is willing to admit he's wrong and change his opinion.

    He's a dorky fat guy that loves football, his family, and the Red Sox. He falls in love with certain players and doesn't cover it up. He's a fan first. Its hard to get mad at the guy. He can get annoying but its pretty harmless.
     
  24. JohntheBaptist

    JohntheBaptist Member SoSH Member

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    I don't even know how to respond to this.

    So cover songs in setlist = irrelevant?

    What planet are you on?
     
  25. cgori

    cgori Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Dr. Z >>> Peter King

    (I still read King's pieces most weeks but only so I know what half of my fantasy football league's moves will be... :blink:
     
  26. SoxVindaloo

    SoxVindaloo Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I do not mind King on football even with his biases but STFU about everything else, especially the Sox, and double especially about Manny.
     
  27. Rocco Graziosa

    Rocco Graziosa owns the lcd soundsystem SoSH Member

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    Cover songs at the halftime of the superbowl is a tough sell IMO. Especially if your Prince, who hasn't had a hit since god knows when. It reeks of "I don't have anything of my own that I can play to make this crowd happy because afterall I'm a midget f*g who was last popular in 1989, so I'll do someone else's material". His "symbol" should be a huge cock. Does anyone here think Prince is popular among the average NFL fan? I certainly don't.
     
  28. Nuf Ced

    Nuf Ced stupidity monitor SoSH Member

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    It's not harmless when he has a vote on who does or doesn't get into the Hall of Fame.


    Oh well. The BBWA has an asshat like George King voting on the Basball HOF, so I guess I shouldn't too outraged.
     
  29. 86spike

    86spike Currently enjoying "Arli$$" SoSH Member

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    well... except for the fact that Prince has written enough instantly recognizable classic songs to fill 3 hours of airtime.

    uh... it is a huge cock... very perceptive of you.

    since when is the halftime show aimed at entertaining the 'average NFL fan'? I thought Joe fan used halftime to take a piss and reload on beers and wings. The halftime show is aimed at entertaining the non-fan. The Super Bowl is watched by waaaaaay more people than the pool of football fans. That's who they're aiming at. I dare say Prince was a better choice than Janet Jackson, Nsync, or The Corpse of Aerosmith.
     
  30. Kowlooner

    Kowlooner The Milton Bradley of SoSH

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    Have you read any of his columns about the HOF voting? He's very open and honest about the process and provides a lot insight into exactly why or why not someone got in. Football is a lot harder to vote for since statistics mean so much less.
     
  31. Maalox

    Maalox full of shit, and proud of it Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Gee, you're right. This really is an important issue. I don't know what we were thinking.

    Jesus, people. We lost. Suck it up. Stop bitching and moaning like a bunch of damned women.
     
  32. Bucknahs Bum Ankle

    Bucknahs Bum Ankle Member SoSH Member

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    I think Nuf is a Buffalo Bills fan. Just saying ...
     
  33. JohntheBaptist

    JohntheBaptist Member SoSH Member

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    Awesome.

    You bear that extra chromosome like a cross, my friend.
     
  34. thrawnqq

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    If Pearl Jam played the super bowl next year, I will probably shit my pants.

    And if they covered Kick out the Jams, (one of their greatest live covers) I would have a stroke.

    WIth PJ, as everyone should know, they run about 10-20% cover songs in a show.

    I loved the Prince show, and to be completely honest, Prince did cover Jimi Hendrix, since the song was electric, and featured Jimi's wailing guitar sound.

    But i do get what you mean.
     
  35. shaft

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    You obviously don't. Hendrix covered Dylan. Prince covered Dylan. U2 covered Dylan. The Grateful Dead covered Dylan. Electric or acoustic, it's still a Dylan cover.
     
  36. Nuf Ced

    Nuf Ced stupidity monitor SoSH Member

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    which means I'm already quite used to losing and watching the Colts win didn't put my panties in a knot. Don't know what that has to do with my comments on Peter King. If you like reading about high school field hockey, shitty coffee, and the indignity of air travel in this country, he's your man!
     
  37. Shelterdog

    Shelterdog Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I agree. Sure he writes some player X-is-a-true-winner-with-calm-eyes type stuff (which I lapped up when he wrote it about Brady), but he does get some legitimate scoops and has some good insights. He really called out M. Harrison as being contact shy in the last article for example.
     
  38. Dropkick Izzy

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    I thought he was covering Dave Matthews.
     
  39. thrawnqq

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    Of course I do, you #$@@%. It is a Dylan song.

    But if someone plays Hound Dog and plays it like Elvis, are they covering Elvis? Or are they covering Big Mama Thornton, or Freddy Bell who originated the song?

    I liked the version, and I like the fact that Prince channeled Jimi when he played it and not Dylan.
     
  40. MattCrashDavis

    MattCrashDavis Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I would listen to Prince cover Raffi's Greatest Hits.
     
  41. RingoOSU

    RingoOSU okie misanthrope SoSH Member

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    ring ring ring ring ring ring ring BANANA PHONE
     
  42. jacklamabe65

    jacklamabe65 A New Frontier butt boy Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Fuck him and his slam against BB. If he did a little digging, he'd realize that Ted Johnson was looking to replace Junior Seau earlier this year. Oh, and Fat Peter, the Red Sox will find a closer. Fuck you.
     
  43. JohntheBaptist

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    I would listen to Prince cover Eric Van.
     
  44. Bucknahs Bum Ankle

    Bucknahs Bum Ankle Member SoSH Member

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    Dude, that's a little wierd.
     
  45. JohntheBaptist

    JohntheBaptist Member SoSH Member

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    You should hear it though. Prince was like "THIS IS MEANT TO BE PLAYED LOUD."
     
  46. John Marzano Olympic Hero

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    I thought that quote was a little bizarre considering Dale and Holley corrected him on this on Friday.

    Here's the thing about King, I think that he's probably the most connected guy in football but he's not that great of a writer. He falls in love with the people he covers way too easily and carries a grudge much too long. The one thing that I do like about him is that when he's wrong, he says that he's wrong.
     
  47. cgori

    cgori Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Well, yes, after about 90000 people write him letters telling him he's wrong.
     
  48. drleather2001

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    "Manny Ramirez is a bum, he's less valuable than Jason Varitek." -PK, '06.
     
  49. InstantKarmma

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  50. Nite Vizhun UV

    Nite Vizhun UV proctological researcher SoSH Member

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    So, what you're saying, is, Prince was unaware that this is a Dylan song, therefore he was under the false impression that he was covering Hendrix. Interesting. Do you think Prince would agree with this POV?
     

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