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Urban Meyer Put On Administrative Leave

Discussion in 'College Sports' started by Nator, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Why do you say that? We don;t know for sure that he didn't adequately report it. He's not a saint by any means, but he's not the abuser in the story.

    Good showing of team spirit and loyalty there in Columbus.


    Urban and Shelly, you're welcome in Chestnut Hill!
     
  2. DukeSox

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    Now it makes perfect sense you’re also a UNC fan lol.
     
  3. The Needler

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    I think that's Chapel Hill, genius.
     
  4. OnWisc

    OnWisc Pegs his jeans SoSH Member

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    I can't tell if this sarcasm or not.

    Perhaps everyone in this photo is just stopping by the Meyer rally on their way home from the Courtney Smith rally. If so, I'd really view them in a different light. But I doubt that's the case.

    I'm no activist. The last time I marched was in my town's little league parade when I was probably about 10 years old. I've never even voted. So I'm hardly some hardened social warrior vocally opining on every perceived injustice I see. But it's plain even to me that it takes a very special kind of stupid for these idiots get out there and publicly show that their outrage over this whole situation is about how Meyer is being treated.
     
  5. Bergs

    Bergs Member SoSH Member

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    I'm glad I get to hate Ohio State again now that Joe Burrow has transferred to LSU.
     
  6. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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  7. LeftyTG

    LeftyTG Member SoSH Member

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    ugh, reading that made my blood boil.

    Shame on Yahoo for publishing such a poorly sourced and click baity steaming pile of crap.
     
  8. koufax32

    koufax32 He'll cry if he wants to... SoSH Member

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    All of that is inconsequential though and a gigantic red herring. Did Meyer tell a superior about abuse allegations, yes or no?
     
  9. Average Reds

    Average Reds Dope Staff Member Dope V&N Mod SoSH Member

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    Seems pretty obvious that he did report it, if only to be in technical compliance with the policy. (If he had not reported it, I don't understand why OSU wouldn't have immediately refuted his claim.) It is still a fireable offense for him to have lied about it the way he did at the media day.

    More interesting to me is that Meyer is pretty obviously blackmailing the Ohio State University by letting them know that if they take him down for this, he'll spill everything. He's doing it out in the open for all to see and given that we haven't really heard anything recently, it's probably going to work.
     
  10. Marciano490

    Marciano490 Urological Expert SoSH Member

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    No comments on the new allegations?

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/urban-meyer-risk-legendary-career-one-troubled-assistant-004851272.html

     
  11. Van Everyman

    Van Everyman Member SoSH Member

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    The texts between McMurphy and Smith’s lawyer are really something. Guy sounds like he wanted to get caught.
     
  12. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Shows Meyer has absolutely no control over the program.

    When he is coaching in Week 4, remember that.
     
  13. joe dokes

    joe dokes Member SoSH Member

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    I think it shows the opposite. He's in complete control. Smith is a good "strength coach." That's what matters most (or exclusively) to the man in charge.
     
  14. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Pete Thamel checking in.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/7-key-fact...ban-meyer-keeps-ohio-state-job-181412561.html
     
  15. OnWisc

    OnWisc Pegs his jeans SoSH Member

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    Yeah, but who are the sources close to the investigation? If you were planning a whitewash number, wouldn’t you want to get the word out about how thorough and far reaching your investigation had been- make the wash that much more white?

    How’s that for cynical....
     
  16. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    There's a game in less than 2 weeks. Shouldn't a decision be made soon?
     
  17. joe dokes

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    Can't spell cynical without C....Y....A
     
  18. Dick Pole Upside

    Dick Pole Upside Member SoSH Member

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  19. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Regents meeting Wednesday. Feeling my gut of 4 game suspension is 1 or 2 more than he gets.
     
  20. koufax32

    koufax32 He'll cry if he wants to... SoSH Member

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    The wording of a suspension will be interesting.

    a) hiring a known wife beater
    b) following only the letter of the law but not doing enough to help a victim
    c) lying to the press about informing the school

    I think the wording would probably be vague to include all three without singling one out. Now, if Meyer never actually told his superiors would they actually say that and fire him? I’m not sure they do unless an outside, independent organization in investigating as well (NCAA of Title IX people).
     
  21. gmogmo

    gmogmo Member SoSH Member

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    He'll be back for the TCU game for sure....disgrace
     
  22. Soxfan in Fla

    Soxfan in Fla Member SoSH Member

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    How many seasons will OSU make Urban Liar wait to rehire Smith? 1 or 2? I’m kidding. Well kind of.
     
  23. terrynever

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    Canderson, do you think any of this impacts Ohio State recruiting, in football and or wrestling?
     
  24. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I don't have any idea about wrestling, I know nothing about how that sport operates.

    For football, I can see losing Smith would cost some recruits maybe but I doubt it amounts to much of anything. As long as Urban wins, Urban will get almost anyone he wants (like Saban).
     
  25. terrynever

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    Yes, the institution is greater than the coach. Ohio State will continue at a high level regardless of how the school disciplines Urban. The only thing this crisis does is make the big bosses think about a potential replacement for Urban down the road. Not a bad thing for the school.

    Strong recruiting rivals will, of course, use this sorry episode when trying to win over the parents of potential recruits that Ohio State also covets.
     
  26. RedOctober3829

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    Ohio State will hold an 8:50 p.m. news conference with President Michael V. Drake, Mary Jo White, AD Gene Smith & Urban Meyer.
     
  27. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Well Urban can make a public apology, donate some salary to a charity and coach week1 then.
     
  28. RedOctober3829

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  29. axx

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    Guess the lawyers told them that he didn't violate the contract and they would have to eat the money.
     
  30. RedOctober3829

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    Urban Meyer has been suspended for the first three games of Ohio State's season.
     
  31. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Suspended three games Per handout at PC.
     
  32. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Gene Smith also suspended from August 31-September 16
     
  33. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Acted in good faith by not alerting authorities and didn’t violate any rules, laws or policies.

     
  34. Ale Xander

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    Smith and Urban did not properly comply, but acted in good faith and did not deliberately lie.

    Per pc.
     
  35. PaulinMyrBch

    PaulinMyrBch Don't touch his dog food Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    What a douche. He wishes he had known more so he could have taken action more quickly. He did everything humanly possible to keep the details off his radar so he wouldn’t have to fire the guy. So he wouldn’t have to take action quickly. He fired the guy 9 years after the dude threw his pregnant wife into a wall. Urban should just stop talking altogether, fake a throat disease? I’m sure he can come up with something. Should be easy since it won’t be the truth.
     
  36. RedOctober3829

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    His message to Courtney Smith: "I'm sorry you were in that situation." That's it.
     
  37. PaulinMyrBch

    PaulinMyrBch Don't touch his dog food Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    It’s worse than that. He actually said, “I have a message to everyone, I’m sorry we’re in this situation”

    And he repeated the last part.
     
  38. PaulinMyrBch

    PaulinMyrBch Don't touch his dog food Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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  39. RedOctober3829

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    Zach Smith's attorney put out this disgraceful statement with Zach's approval: "Zach Smith married a woman he should not have married. Vengence against her ex-husband regrettably resulted in collateral damage to Urban Meyer, and The Ohio State University. Trying cases in the media is a dangerous precedent for every coach in America."
     
  40. djbayko

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    That's horrific. We = "I'm a victim here too"

    Edit: Just saw RedOctober's quote from his lawyer above. Yup, that seems to be the spin alright.
     
  41. PaulinMyrBch

    PaulinMyrBch Don't touch his dog food Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I could have guessed the 3 games. I never would have guessed at the content of either of those two statements. Just unreal.
     
  42. RedOctober3829

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    And in his prepared statement that he obviously did not write he did not once mention an apology to Courtney Smith for not doing more. He mentioned harming the university more.
     
  43. The Napkin

    The Napkin wise ass al kaprielian Dope SoSH Member

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    It’s not even 3 full weeks, he’s allowed to run practices weeks 2 and 3 just can’t coach. And I’m sure there won’t be headsets involved. They’d never do anything like that. Nope.
     
  44. koufax32

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    Did not properly comply? What does that mean specifically?
     
  45. PaulinMyrBch

    PaulinMyrBch Don't touch his dog food Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    It must mean some pretty technical hair slicing. Like he reported the general allegation, but maybe failed to report additional information when he got more detail. Or failed to report the severity of it. I’m guessing if he was looking to keep him on staff (which he did for 8-9 years) he watered down any reporting hoping it would go away. Or maybe they didn’t report it properly up the ladder. Skipped reporting it to key personnel that would have taken it more seriously, but reported it to personnel that might stick it in a drawer.
     
  46. twibnotes

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  47. RedOctober3829

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    Investigation report: "We learned Coach Meyer has sometimes had significant memory issues in other situations where he had prior extensive knowledge of events. He has also periodically taken medicine that can negatively impair his memory, concentration & focus"
     
  48. BigSoxFan

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    What a despicable school. Another real bang up job, Big 10.
     
  49. Sox and Rocks

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    Honestly, his reputation has taken a huge and deserved hit, which is far more important than a longer suspension. Firing him was never a real possibility.

    He's always been a sleaze bag and always will be. The 30 for 30 on him someday will be informative and entertaining.

    Oh, and those quotes are priceless and beyond stupid and add even more credence to his tainted legend.
     
  50. Average Reds

    Average Reds Dope Staff Member Dope V&N Mod SoSH Member

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    Urban Meyer has never had a reputation for anything other than being a football coach.

    His “punishment” and the incredibly cowardly way this was handled - Blaming Meyer’s medications for his poor memory? Really? - are all you need to know about the leverage Meyer had over OSU during this process.

    Look for the public statement clearing Jim Jordan and praising him as an effective leader in about two weeks.
     

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