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UFC/MMA in 2017

Discussion in 'General Sports' started by Infield Infidel, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. MikeM

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    IDK, but I'm also guessing that you are a much better person to answer that then me.

    But it does kinda beg the question that if UFC/Dana can't legally stop the fight, why does everybody keep circling around to them being a player in whether or not it happens? From the sounds of Floyd and Connor this should/would otherwise be done before now.
     
  2. Marciano490

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    They can make life difficult for sure. I imagine they'd file an injunction and that'd go to court. I know in the past Don King used to enjoin fighters, I think including Lennox Lewis, from fighting when he claimed they owed him fights under contracts. But employee law has changed a lot since then and courts are very loathe to enforce restrictive covenants.
     
  3. Phragle

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  4. Marciano490

    Marciano490 Urological Expert SoSH Member

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    Oh man, Putin is taking all our best fighters. Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, Steven Seagal.
     
  5. JimBoSox9

    JimBoSox9 will you be my friend? SoSH Member

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    If it's a plot by Mayweather to draw Trump into a bidding war.....frickin brilliant
     
  6. djbayko

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    Thoughts from UFC Fight Night 107:
    • Gunnar Nelson really impressed, and I love his attitude based on the post-fight interview.
    • In the undercard, Marc "Bonecrusher" Diakiese was also super impressive, and not just because of his 30-second knockout. Incredibly quick, he was toying with his opponent and throwing undefended acrobatic kicks...with power. Currently 3-0 in the UFC (12-0 in MMA). He's also an entertainer and should be fun to watch in the future.
    • Jouban looks exactly like a young Jean-Claude Van Damme, and his style of fighting helps in this regard.
     
  7. EvilEmpire

    EvilEmpire Dope Staff Member Dope Gold Supporter

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    Assuming each gets by their next opponent, Cody Garbrandt next wants to drop down to fight Demetrius Johnson. He says he can make the weight.

    That would be a fun fight.
     
  8. Phragle

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    Does Garbrandt even have to win to make that fight?
     
  9. djbayko

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    Really looking forward to Rumble vs. DC II on Saturday.
     
  10. Zomp

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    I am as well but I wish the undercard was a bit more interesting...and thats coming from someone who likes Mousasi.
     
  11. kelpapa

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    Cormier struggled to make weight today. Here's the video, with his first weigh-in at 21:40 and second weigh-in a little after 24 minutes.


    There was Twitter outrage over the grabbing of the towel on the second weigh-in.

    Pearl Gonzalez's fight against Cynthia Calvillo was originally cancelled due to Gonzalez's breast implants but is now back on. Not sure why it took the day before the fight for officials to both cancel the fight and then determine it was back on.
     
  12. kelpapa

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    Jon Jones commented on the towel grabbing as well. ~4:10 here:


    "I watched the guy, if you focus on his hands, you can see him looking down and balancing out his weight just right to make 205. What a clever trick... One of the dirtiest things I have seen in sports."
     
  13. Infield Infidel

    Infield Infidel teaching korea american SoSH Member

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    Cynthia Calvillo is fun to watch. Just tenacious on the ground

    Patrick Cote called it a career.
     
  14. luckiestman

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    Hate this fight (Mousasi/Weidman) because I really like both guys.
     
  15. luckiestman

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    Did not realize Chris was the underdog.
     
  16. Infield Infidel

    Infield Infidel teaching korea american SoSH Member

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    Wow. That was freaking weird as hell
     
  17. luckiestman

    luckiestman Son of the Harpy SoSH Member

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    Some bullshit here. But I think Weidman was trying to get a DQ on Mousasi and he fucked himself over
     
  18. rodderick

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    Weidman milked that shit because he was gassed and it blew up in his face. Terrible ending to an entertaining fight.
     
  19. luckiestman

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    Exactly right. This did lead to Mousasi repeatedly scolding his corner which is the part of his personality that I love. Mousasi is one of the most talented guys but has never had consistently great camps. He was a bit of a Ronin years back
     
  20. Infield Infidel

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    I feel bad for Mirgliotta because it's a tough call, and it seems like he did the right thing checking with John McCarthy.

    They'll get rematch and it'll have more hype now.

    That was funny, he was pissed and his corner was cheering and he's like, quit that shit guys this sucks. He's so classy and has a great sense of humor from the interviews I've seen of his.
     
  21. luckiestman

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    Fucking Cormier. What a beast
     
  22. Phragle

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    Rumble is stupid
     
  23. luckiestman

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    Cormier does not look at all like he should be able to do the things he does. That has been true since his amateur wrestling days
     
  24. rodderick

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    Rumble has a whole lot of quit in him. That was terrible.
     
  25. Oklahoma Jones

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    Literally. He just retired.
     
  26. luckiestman

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    Yeah, I won't talk any shit about him. Dude used to make 170 (most of the time)
     
  27. southshoresoxfan

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    Well DC Jones UFC 214 is gonna be fun
     
  28. Infield Infidel

    Infield Infidel teaching korea american SoSH Member

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    I wonder what he'll do. WWE?
     
  29. Phragle

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    205 is trash RN. A lot of the best light heavyweights are middleweights

    How bout rumble try to wrestle DC? It's just so stupid
     
  30. luckiestman

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    They put that top 10 up and I couldn't believe the lack of depth. High top end talent sometimes does that. 185 sucked when Spider cleaned it out and now all of a sudden it's good. There are also just not that many guys in the world that are a lean 205 that. An fight.
     
  31. Pxer

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    2 retirements, Mousasi getting the victory, but still screwed, Rumble inexplicably wrestling DC. Rough night. =(
     
  32. JimBoSox9

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    And the ones that can are still far more likely to grow up learning to tackle, not punch.
     
  33. mikeford

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    Rumble retiring is good. The less women beating trash persons in the sport, the better.

    DC rules.
     
  34. MikeM

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    Yeah, I literally grabbed my keys and walked out of place last night the moment DC got his back, already certain that was a wrap.

    Just caught the retired bit. Not surprised. For a guy who reportedly hates to train he was looking at a long time before ever seeing another title shot again.
     
  35. Gunfighter 09

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    Rumble is an incredibly entertaining fighter, but I have been a bid disgusted by all of the people praising him outside the ring. I agree with you.
     
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  36. Phragle

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    I thought rumble DV thing was a misunderstanding?

    Anyway fuck him. He had a great chance to win that fight even after the horrible idea to out wrestle DC. He's broke his damn nose.

    I don't care about not training either. Too many of these guys overtrain anyway
     
  37. mikeford

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    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/9/1...hnsons-ex-restraining-order-domestic-violence

    This does not strike me as a "misunderstanding", idk.

    The civil case was dropped but I tend to believe a woman when she says a man knocked out 2 of her teeth.
     
  38. Phragle

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  39. Gunfighter 09

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    All of that said, Rumble vs Jon Jones is one of the great "what if" fights that will likely never happen now. That would have been a fun one to watch.

    In the big picture, the biggest development out of last night might be Dana White essentially acknowledging that Connor vs. Floyd is going to happen. Never thought I would pay money to watch a boxing match again, but sign me up.

    http://mmajunkie.com/2017/04/dana-w...ll-happen-blasts-jeff-mayweather-and-bob-arum
     
  40. Phragle

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    Fun to watch maybe, but he's stupid and quits. No way Jones doesn't end him before rd three
     
  41. djbayko

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    I have no idea what the hell he was thinking. Knockout power, speed, and reach...he voluntarily took all of that advantage away from himself.
     
  42. Vinho Tinto

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    Only thing I can think of is that he made the decision to end his career before the fight. By grappling, it reduced the number of blows to the head he would take.
     
  43. djbayko

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    Maybe. But he looked pretty shocked after that submission. I haven't read anything about his retirement announcement yet, but I kind of assumed it had a little to do with him responding poorly to the loss. It's a shame because he could have been something. He's almost Mike Tyson-level scary - at least in terms of power and ferociousness, if not results.
     
  44. djbayko

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    Listening to Weidman speak after the fight, I'm not surprised the commission stopped that fight. The guy could barley form a coherent thought and kept repeating himself a dozen times.

    I'm sure it's not terribly uncommon for fighters to take that kind of damage and continue on, but most don't have cause for doctors to start evaluating them mid-fight.
     
  45. kelpapa

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    He didn't know what day it was apparently.

    You can hear Serra saying something to the effect of "he don't ever know what day it is, though."
     
  46. Phragle

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    He's from New York, that's how he always sounds
     
  47. Phragle

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    People talking about Holm-Correia being close to done for a fight night. I can't imagine a line that'd keep me from betting Holm.
     
  48. MikeM

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    Holm has dropped 3 straight and has executed a questionable game plan in each of those fights since her one masterpiece against Rousey.

    You sir are a lot braver then I am.
     
  49. Phragle

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    What do you think the line will be?
     
  50. MikeM

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    Holm may end up as the favorite, but atm I personally just wouldn't let my $$$ touch her or the workings of a somewhat sad ESPN 30 for 30 story 10 years from now.
     

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