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E5 Yaz said:Ken Rosenthal was saying this morning on MLBN that he thought the Orioles had decided to give up the 17th pick and sign one of the pitchers, citing the improvement of their farm system
glennhoffmania said:I'm shocked that NY didn't grab one of these two guys, especially at these prices.
No, he wasn't. 2011 was not so great in ERA but his peripherals were basically the same as they had been the previous two years. Just unlucky - he got killed on his strand rate. He's really only had one bad year.jon abbey said:
He was awful for 2+ years before figuring things out a month or two into last season, not sure I'd want to commit to four years with him. OK move for Baltimore, though.
How about signing either Garza or Jimenez (I, too, would prefer Garza) at age 30 for less AAV than 36 year old Beltran, especially considering they already had Gardner, Ells, and Soriano (not to mention Ichiro) for the outfield? Or how about Cano and Garza instead of Tanaka and Beltran?jon abbey said:
After they got Tanaka? The back of their rotation is not one of their larger problems, CC/Kuroda/Tanaka/Nova and then Pineda/Phelps/Warren/Nuno for the 5th spot. I could see going for Garza over Tanaka, but as Keith Law just wrote, Ubaldo has basically had two good half seasons (admittedly two dominant half seasons) in his entire career. He was awful for 2+ years before figuring things out a month or two into last season, not sure I'd want to commit to four years with him. OK move for Baltimore, though.
Yeah; he had era + numbers of 112, 118, 126, and 161 in his first 4 seasons in Colorado (well, his 1st season was half a year) and a 114 last year in Cleveland. He basically struggled for half of 2011 and most of 2012, but has been either damn good or dominant in his other 5 + seasons in the majors...PrometheusWakefield said:No, he wasn't. 2011 was not so great in ERA but his peripherals were basically the same as they had been the previous two years. Just unlucky - he got killed on his strand rate. He's really only had one bad year.
Sox and Rocks said:How about signing either Garza or Jimenez (I, too, would prefer Garza) at age 30 for less AAV than 36 year old Beltran, especially considering they already had Gardner, Ells, and Soriano (not to mention Ichiro) for the outfield? Or how about Cano and Garza instead of Tanaka and Beltran?
Sox and Rocks said:Yeah; he had era + numbers of 112, 118, 126, and 161 in his first 4 seasons in Colorado (well, his 1st season was half a year) and a 114 last year in Cleveland. He basically struggled for half of 2011 and most of 2012, but has been either damn good or dominant in his other 5 + seasons in the majors...
Sox and Rocks said:Echoing what others have said, $12 million a year for Jimenez seems like a good deal. For example, that's less than both Peavy and Dempster are (was in the case of Dempster) scheduled to make this year.
Plympton91 said:
The same is really true of Santana; 3 good years, 3 mediocre years, and 3 bad years. I can't believe he's still out there at these prices. If you get him for about this same contract, you probably won't regret it.
TheYaz67 said:
They may as well give up that pick for a decent free agent that is even willing to come to Baltimore (not many are), given their recent history with wasting their first round picks on total busts/guys with chronic injury issues....